ECHL 2020-21 Season Plans

[Roadhog]

Yeah, because an usher would have that kind of insider information...

But his usher was a "regular." If they'd been an "irregular," THEN you'd have good reason to doubt their story.

I'm a little skeptical myself, but here's the message my friend received from said usher:

Hey! It hasn’t been released publicly. You may have heard as season ticket holders - but the Beast have folded for good. No more ECHL in Brampton. A friend of mine is good friends with some of the players and staff. He was shown an email this afternoon.

 

[sabremike]

But his usher was a "regular." If they'd been an "irregular," THEN you'd have good reason to doubt their story.

A friend of mine who has been a Coliseum (and several other venues) usher for years has broken quite a few big Islanders developments on another Isles board (For example: The team planning to return home to play games at the Zombie Coliseum. He told us it was in the works and going to happen before it became public). When it comes to things like this there's a pretty good chance a guy like that is telling the truth.

 

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I'm a little skeptical myself, but here's the message my friend received from said usher:

Hey! It hasn’t been released publicly. You may have heard as season ticket holders - but the Beast have folded for good. No more ECHL in Brampton. A friend of mine is good friends with some of the players and staff. He was shown an email this afternoon.

There is one post on Twitter about this (post at 1546 ET today), from a user to the Beast referencing this usher as a source. I couldn't find any posts on Facebook about it. If there was an email, especially one being shown to "outsiders", there's just about a 100% chance that news would be in a lot more places by now.

To be clear, I'm not saying the news isn't true, only that I'm not convinced the people saying it actually know the information is factual.

 

[hurricanesfan123]

no different than any other he said she said moment

 

[hurricanesfan123]

that tweet mentioned was replied by the beast. This usher rumor appears to be not true

 

[tarheelhockey]

But his usher was a "regular." If they'd been an "irregular," THEN you'd have good reason to doubt their story.

Sometimes the regulars get overwhelmed and outnumbered, especially in unfamiliar territory. It can help to have the support of irregulars, who often take more of a guerilla approach.

 

[CrazyEddie20]

Sometimes the regulars get overwhelmed and outnumbered, especially in unfamiliar territory. It can help to have the support of irregulars, who often take more of a guerilla approach.

It's like General Westmoreland said, "If you get them by the balls, the hearts and minds will follow."

 

[JMCx4]

Sometimes the regulars get overwhelmed and outnumbered, especially in unfamiliar territory. It can help to have the support of irregulars, who often take more of a guerilla approach.

Around here, it's more like a gorilla approach.

 

[Roadhog]

There is one post on Twitter about this (post at 1546 ET today), from a user to the Beast referencing this usher as a source. I couldn't find any posts on Facebook about it. If there was an email, especially one being shown to "outsiders", there's just about a 100% chance that news would be in a lot more places by now.

To be clear, I'm not saying the news isn't true, only that I'm not convinced the people saying it actually know the information is factual.

I asked my friend to see if the usher can get his hands on this e-mail. Its probably a bit of a misunderstanding on his part and it has more to do with the 20-21 shutdown than the team folding.

 

[JMCx4]

I asked my friend to see if the usher can get his hands on this e-mail. Its probably a bit of a misunderstanding on his part and it has more to do with the 20-21 shutdown than the team folding.

"Film at 11."

 

[CrazyEddie20]

I asked my friend to see if the usher can get his hands on this e-mail. Its probably a bit of a misunderstanding on his part and it has more to do with the 20-21 shutdown than the team folding.

"She lives in Canada. I met her at Niagara Falls; you wouldn't know her."

 

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I asked my friend to see if the usher can get his hands on this e-mail. Its probably a bit of a misunderstanding on his part and it has more to do with the 20-21 shutdown than the team folding.

If I were you I wouldn't be wasting any more time on this...

 

[JMCx4]

If I were you I wouldn't be wasting any more time on this...

The pandemic landscape is littered with fruitless endeavors. Though originally in favor of dismissing this rumor out of hand, now I'd kinda like to see it play out just to break the boredom.

 

[GindyDraws]

that tweet mentioned was replied by the beast. This usher rumor appears to be not true

This'll sound silly, but given the Beast, I'll take the usher over the club itself. Not because the Beast are a bad organization, but Brampton hasn't and never will support hockey. It's a primarily Asian community that lost an OHL club after 15+ years of little success in the stands, had two junior clubs merge then fold, and the Beast themselves haven't had anything to hang their hats on, on ice or (like the Battalion that moved) in attendance.

The only motivation they have to carry on is the belief that, because they're in the GTA, they should get recognition, and yet it has never worked out. Would I rather have more minor league teams in Canada? Sure. It would mean that not every market would have to worry about being left out of the CHL game, yet the markets that would be available after the CHL has their fill would be very limited due to various factors. I'd like a return to Fredericton, but that'll never happen due to the local college, for example.

 

[sabremike]

This'll sound silly, but given the Beast, I'll take the usher over the club itself. Not because the Beast are a bad organization, but Brampton hasn't and never will support hockey. It's a primarily Asian community that lost an OHL club after 15+ years of little success in the stands, had two junior clubs merge then fold, and the Beast themselves haven't had anything to hang their hats on, on ice or (like the Battalion that moved) in attendance.

The only motivation they have to carry on is the belief that, because they're in the GTA, they should get recognition, and yet it has never worked out. Would I rather have more minor league teams in Canada? Sure. It would mean that not every market would have to worry about being left out of the CHL game, yet the markets that would be available after the CHL has their fill would be very limited due to various factors. I'd like a return to Fredericton, but that'll never happen due to the local college, for example.

Question: Weren't they basically surviving by being on the dole with the city and the city recently cut them off? If that's true wouldn't that pretty much be the end?

 

[wildcat48]

that tweet mentioned was replied by the beast. This usher rumor appears to be not true

Not that I would believe the usher without verifying and getting a second source, but the Brampton response doesn't exactly bode well for their return. I view the Brampton response more as a non-denial denial. It's a nice magician trick but only thing left is to call in the movers.

 

[CrazyEddie20]

Not that I would believe the usher without verifying and getting a second source, but the Brampton response doesn't exactly bode well for their return. I view the Brampton response more as a non-denial denial. It's a nice magician trick but only thing left is to call in the movers.

Don't apply rules of ethics and journalism to a message board. That's like trying to teach a dog not to lick his own balls.

 

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Not that I would believe the usher without verifying and getting a second source, but the Brampton response doesn't exactly bode well for their return. I view the Brampton response more as a non-denial denial. It's a nice magician trick but only thing left is to call in the movers.

I have little doubt Brampton is in trouble. I just absolutely don't believe the usher, and once that part of the chain breaks the rest is immaterial.

 

[CrazyEddie20]

I have little doubt Brampton is in trouble. I just absolutely don't believe the usher, and once that part of the chain breaks the rest is immaterial.

Neither do I, but let's not forget that this didn't come directly from an usher, this came from a post from a guy "who knows an usher." So it's an anonymous poster claiming to have a source. If it was the usher himself, it's one thing, but this is the definition of hearsay. It's not that I don't believe an usher, it's that I don't believe anyone on a message board who claims to have sources while hiding behind a pseudonym.

 

[210]

Neither do I, but let's not forget that this didn't come directly from an usher, this came from a post from a guy "who knows an usher." So it's an anonymous poster claiming to have a source. If it was the usher himself, it's one thing, but this is the definition of hearsay. It's not that I don't believe an usher, it's that I don't believe anyone on a message board who claims to have sources while hiding behind a pseudonym.

I wouldn't have believed the usher had they posted it here themselves. Too many disconnects from point A to point B for it to make any sense.

 

[JMCx4]

... It's not that I don't believe an usher, it's that I don't believe anyone on a message board who claims to have sources while hiding behind a pseudonym.

Says "CrazyEddie20" with a purloined booking photo for an avatar. Lemme see your license & registration, son.

 

[Atlantian]

Look. We can debate about this all we want but the beast are done. Whether they announce it now or after the season doesn’t matter. There is absolutely no way they come back from this. They don’t draw fans. They’re not getting their ridiculous subsidy from the city. They’re in a town that has a history of not supporting hockey. It’s time they cut their losses.

 

[GindyDraws]

Don't apply rules of ethics and journalism to a message board. That's like trying to teach a dog not to lick his own balls.

To a dog, balls are very tasty. That's why they keep licking them.

And the same principles apply to gossip on a message board.

 

[CrazyEddie20]

Says "CrazyEddie20" with a purloined booking photo for an avatar. Lemme see your license & registration, son.

I'll give you a billion dollars to let me go.

 

[210]

To a dog, balls are very tasty. That's why they keep licking them.

And the same principles apply to gossip on a message board.

I hope to God you aren't a veterinarian...