LeBrun: Dubois wants out of Winnipeg, will not sign a contract for next season

[Erep]

Montreal should not trade significant assets for him, and whenever he is a free agent their offer should top out around $4-5m. If he wants to be there that bad then fine, but if he wants anything close to market value they should stay away.

 

[MXD]

No way!!! This is breaking news alright!!!

The idea that he just doesn't want to play in Winnipeg next season is new.

(Actually, WTF can he do if Winnipeg elects him to arbitration?)

Montreal should not trade significant assets for him, and whenever he is a free agent their offer should top out around $4-5m. If he wants to be there that bad then fine, but if he wants anything close to market value they should stay away.

... WTF, that's less than what they're paying Mike Motherf***ing Shitface Hoffman at this moment...

 

[Viqsi]

The idea that he just doesn't want to play in Winnipeg next season is new.

(Actually, WTF can he do if Winnipeg elects him to arbitration?)

He can refuse to play, daydream about Winnipeg having his contract terminated for cause, and then delude himself into believing that Montreal will happily take him on under those circumstances and that the League would let them do so.

 

[sansabri]

god i hope we don't dump assets for this bum who gives up easily

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Anyone else think this guy is a bum? Will never forget how he quit on CBJ with "the shift" and now won't sign a 1 year deal to demand a trade? Seems too entitled for a 60 point player.

 

[HuGo Sham]

now he won't be able to hang out in Little Burgundy without 10 000 habs fans asking him the same question each day

 

[EverTheCynic]

Even the mosquitoes want out of Winnipeg

 

[NitroF]

I usually prefer the good selfless typical pro hockey player, but I still can admire his willingness to use every leverages he can to be where he wants to be, regardless of what people say and old school hockey culture.

Remains to be seen if he will stay put and thrive once he achieves his goal or if he changes his mind all the time and play poorly because of it. That’s what will tell me if I respect his choices or not in the end.

(He definitely do not care what I and all of us think though and can respect that also: it’s his life.)

 

[MXD]

He can refuse to play, daydream about Winnipeg having his contract terminated for cause, and then delude himself into believing that Montreal will happily take him on under those circumstances and that the League would let them do so.

C'mon now, Dubois would be the 13224th unhappy NHL player dealt.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

(Actually, WTF can he do if Winnipeg elects him to arbitration?)

He could still sign an offer sheet.

Arbitration | Puckpedia

Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...

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Team Elected Arbitration

Teams can take players to arbitration, to a maximum of 2 Team Elections per year.

If a player made $2.11M or more in the last season, the Arbitration award must be 85% of their previous season pay or more. If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends.

 

[MXD]

Anyone else think this guy is a bum? Will never forget how he quit on CBJ with "the shift" and now won't sign a 1 year deal to demand a trade? Seems too entitled for a 60 point player.

Free Agents can, as a matter of fact, refuse to sign a deal.

(Then he can be elected to arbitration. It's up to the Jets to follow through if they wish)

 

[Viqsi]

C'mon now, Dubois would be the 13224th unhappy NHL player dealt.

Perhaps, but if the nothing offers that frequently come along here are any indication, I suspect Winnipeg is going to be better off giving him the finger.

 

[MXD]

He could still sign an offer sheet.

Arbitration | Puckpedia

Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...

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Well, yeah, but if no offersheet is forthcoming?

(And Dubois would probably make more on his arbitration award than he would on his offersheet)

 

[Viqsi]

He could still sign an offer sheet.

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Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...

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Huh. I thought that option had gone away.

 

[thewookie1]

Players like PLD truly are a cancer to the league. A moderately high end player with aggressively zero loyalty thus making him borderline impossible to add to your team well enough to achieve a greater outcome.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

He’ll be dealt before offer sheet season starts. Gotta wonder though - is there ANYWHERE where this guy would be happy? He hasn’t been a good fit anywhere in his career. He might have his golden bridge where he thinks everything will finally be okay, but I hope he’s actually being honest and realistic about it, or he’ll just be miserable there too.

 

[MXD]

Huh. I thought that option had gone away.

Short answer : Not on team-elected arbitration in what would almost certainly be his scenario.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Huh. I thought that option had gone away.

I think you are thinking of the *second* window to bring a player to arbitration once the player does not sign his QO in July.

That's one of the reasons CGY filled for club-elected arbitration with Tkachuk after he did not sign the QO.

 

[Viqsi]

I think you are thinking of the *second* window to bring a player to arbitration once the player does not sign his QO in July.

That's one of the reasons CGY filled for club-elected arbitration with Tkachuk after he did not sign the QO.

Ah! Yeah, I probably heard about the Tkachuk deal and somehow got it into my head that it applied to all club-elected cases. Whoopsie.

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

What’s the ask from St. Louis?

We could use a top 6 C in his age range to pair with Thomas while they’re in their primes together.

10 and Snuggerud are off the table, but basically anything else is something to discuss

 

[MXD]

Players like PLD truly are a cancer to the league. A moderately high end player with aggressively zero loyalty thus making him borderline impossible to add to your team well enough to achieve a greater outcome.

That's what you get when players have absolutely no say on where they play.

 

[NYR94]

Didn't he want to go to Montreal so bad he attended the draft when it was held there expecting a trade to be announced?

 

[Buffdog]

The key wording for me there was "brisson willing to work with chevy"...

Doesn't sound like it's "I want to only be in montreal". Also, if his goal was to get to Montreal asap, he'd sign his 1 year deal and go at UFA next summer. This makes it sound like he's willing to be elsewhere

I'm guessing there is a list of markets he'd re-sign in and chevy can work to get the best deal from those teams

 

[HuGo Sham]

so Brisson offered to facilitate a trade (again). Here's where we find out, if he actually has somewhere in mind to play. Personally, I don't assume it's exclusively Montreal

 

[Viqsi]

That's what you get when players have absolutely no say on where they play.

They have a say when they make it to unrestricted free agency. 99.999999% of players in the modern history of the NHL can deal with that and "do their time". He's the only one who's been such a persistent dick about it, to the point of sabotaging his existing teams.