Line Combos: Don’t Touch PP1. It’s Good. Very Good.

[huerter]

Gonna have Zibanejad in the bumper

It would be my plan B but a distant one to plan A.

 

[bleedblue94]

When Kane gets here he's running the halfwall and bread is moving to the bumper. If they move zib off his onetime spot it would be completely idiotic. The team would be negating it's own main shooting threat. Like putting ovi in a bumper spot.

 

[huerter]

When Kane gets here he's running the halfwall and bread is moving to the bumper. If they move zib off his onetime spot it would be completely idiotic. The team would be negating it's own main shooting threat. Like putting ovi in a bumper spot.

They could but also why? Panarin is an elite slot line passer. He has the deception of coming down from the point and freezing everyone with the threat of a shot. It's a proven recipe.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Panarin in the bumper will not happen. It negates his best attributes as huerter said. Zibanejad will be in the bumper, he's done it before and his shot it still a threat from there.

 

[CasusBelli]

Need a different formation if we want to keep the PP1 roster. With opponents blocking the passing lane, Tank adds no value in the middle, as you can't get the puck to him for a clean shot; he's not particularly known for redirections either. You'd need to move to a more overload or Umbrella type of layout if you want to keep the current guys together:

You can have Bread and Tank switch periodically and everyone (but CK20) rotate, so that the overload moves to the left (Bread becomes LW) and Tank moves to RW for a one-timer / more shooting strategy and then crashing the net.

Edit: Sorry about the lack of white spaces in the original post; added as screenshot (little messy, I know):

 

[Chytilmania]

Either Zib bumper or have Zib Tarasenko one unit and Panarin Kane another unit.

Tarasenko is lost at the bumper and we could use his lethal shot.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Panarin in the bumper will not happen. It negates his best attributes as huerter said. Zibanejad will be in the bumper, he's done it before and his shot it still a threat from there.

I’d say his shot is more of a threat from the bumper than where he usually takes shots from

 

[duhmetreE]

The PP needs to be dynamic.

5 should be moving around and creating confusion, different looks.

We’ve been too static

 

[CLW]

The PP needs to be dynamic.

5 should be moving around and creating confusion, different looks.

We’ve been too static

The funny thing is they started out very dynamic with fast puck movement, then they started to get goals a certain way and they got set in a method and got slow.

Maybe it's time to improvise for a bit again and see what happens.

 

[bleedblue94]

They could but also why? Panarin is an elite slot line passer. He has the deception of coming down from the point and freezing everyone with the threat of a shot. It's a proven recipe.

Threat of a shot? Have you watched the same pp as the rest of us? Panarin's last play is a shot. He is also on his strong side which makes his shooting angle worse. That is part of why he prefers to play lw at 5v5. Kane is literally at home on the right side half wall. For all the "geometry" talk around here with the pp having a lhs on the right halfway is an absolute no brainer, especially when it's a first ballot hall of fame player who is an absolute ace at making the pass for the one timer AND who will keep defenses honest as a shot threat.

 

[duhmetreE]

Threat of a shot? Have you watched the same pp as the rest of us? Panarin's last play is a shot. He is also on his strong side which makes his shooting angle worse. That is part of why he prefers to play lw at 5v5. Kane is literally at home on the right side half wall. For all the "geometry" talk around here with the pp having a lhs on the right halfway is an absolute no brainer, especially when it's a first ballot hall of fame player who is an absolute ace at making the pass for the one timer AND who will keep defenses honest as a shot threat.

when was the last time we actually had a one-time shooting threat on the right dot?

 

[huerter]

Threat of a shot? Have you watched the same pp as the rest of us? Panarin's last play is a shot. He is also on his strong side which makes his shooting angle worse. That is part of why he prefers to play lw at 5v5. Kane is literally at home on the right side half wall. For all the "geometry" talk around here with the pp having a lhs on the right halfway is an absolute no brainer, especially when it's a first ballot hall of fame player who is an absolute ace at making the pass for the one timer AND who will keep defenses honest as a shot threat.

Maybe you've missed all the Mika one-timers where the goalie is late to get over...because of the threat of the shot.

 

[bleedblue94]

when was the last time we actually had a one-time shooting threat on the right dot?

The first time they put zib there before they signed panarin and then moved zib to bumper and panarin to the left dot. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

 

[Chytilmania]

when was the last time we actually had a one-time shooting threat on the right dot?

Chytil would be great there. Need to get Kane there and take Panarin off the 1st unit.

The PP blows right now. Barely scoring on 5-3s.

 

[bleedblue94]

Maybe you've missed all the Mika one-timers where the goalie is late to get over...because of the threat of the shot.

You have to take that shot with some regularity in order to establish a "shot threat." If you've watched lately the main way that one timer has worked has not been bread directly to zib, it's required the play to start with fox and then go bread to zib bc they are trying to force the goalie to make a push to his left first before having to push to his right since most goalies are now loading on their left foot anticipating that pass to zib. I don't know how anyone can watch this pp and not see how competent teams and goalies have identified the lack of nyr shot threat on the right side and just focused on taking zib away since Tampa started collapsing on him in the playoffs last year and basically gave panarin a straight path to the net with the puck which he still would not use to shoot

 

[huerter]

Kreider
Zib - Trocheck - Panarin
Fox

For as much of the 2 minutes as they can muster.

Give the scraps to whoever.

It's THE TEMPLATE

 

[Ruggs225]

Kreider
Zib - Trocheck - Panarin
Fox

For as much of the 2 minutes as they can muster.

Give the scraps to whoever.

It's THE TEMPLATE

That template aucks. It has sucked for most of the year. That is why we have a middling PP. The template needs to change.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

when was the last time we actually had a one-time shooting threat on the right dot?

Probably Gaborik.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Probably Gaborik.

Pavel Buchnevich

 

[Filthy Dangles]

If when they get kane

the configuration will ikely be

Fox
Panarin - Mika - Kane
Kreider


I think that gives them more options to interchance and not be so static as people have complained about. Kreider and Kane can interchange where Kane drifts low below the goal line to look for Zibanejad in the bumper or PAnarin back door.

And Panarin and Zibanejad can exchange and try to setup a disguised one timer for Zibanejad

 

[huerter]

If when they get kane

the configuration will ikely be

Fox
Panarin - Mika - Kane
Kreider


I think that gives them more options to interchance and not be so static as people have complained about. Kreider and Kane can interchange where Kane drifts low below the goal line to look for Zibanejad in the bumper or PAnarin back door.

And Panarin and Zibanejad can exchange and try to setup a disguised one timer for Zibanejad

Keep it simple. Trocheck in the bumper. Upgraded version of Strome. Mitch Giguere singled him out when talking about how the Habs should mimic the Rangers PP. That group of 5 has the reps. They have the diagnostics.

 

[Ruggs225]

Keep it simple. Trocheck in the bumper. Upgraded version of Strome. Mitch Giguere singled him out when talking about how the Habs should mimic the Rangers PP. That group of 5 has the reps. They have the diagnostics.

Strome is better than trocheck on the PP. He is much better passer and puck handler.

Trocheck is a downgrade from Strome on the PP

 

[JohnC]

Ryan Strome 680 games played PP stats: 26 goals, 66 assists
Vincent Trocheck 613 games played PP stats: 46 goals, 73 assists

 

[huerter]

Strome is better than trocheck on the PP. He is much better passer and puck handler.

Trocheck is a downgrade from Strome on the PP

This isn't true but nobody is asking the bumper to do either of those things really so ALL GOOD!

 

[duhmetreE]

This isn't true but nobody is asking the bumper to do either of those things really so ALL GOOD!

It's time to stick to the template. With Patty Kane about to be here we have to go ALL LEFTY

Tank
Laffy Chytil Kane
KAM ( or give Fox a lefty stick )