Do the Habs go into the season "Goonless"?
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Ghetto Sangria
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I think they will, and I don't think it will be an issue this season. Boston won't have a goon anymore. Guys like Lucic, McQuaid, Miller don't fight goons anyways so it wouldn't make a difference against Boston.
Toronto Will rarely play Colton Orr and when they do he won't be that much of a problem as long as a hab doesn't drop the gloves against him. Outside of those two teams there isn't a lot of pressure for the habs to "stand up" to mismatched fisticuffs... And when called upon, Prust, Tinordi, Weise and to a lesser extent Moen can drop em.
Unless things change with the habs two rivals... I doubt Bergevin makes finding a goon a priority.
Toronto Will rarely play Colton Orr and when they do he won't be that much of a problem as long as a hab doesn't drop the gloves against him. Outside of those two teams there isn't a lot of pressure for the habs to "stand up" to mismatched fisticuffs... And when called upon, Prust, Tinordi, Weise and to a lesser extent Moen can drop em.
Unless things change with the habs two rivals... I doubt Bergevin makes finding a goon a priority.
I don't think they will get a 'goon' but I would like them to get one as the 13th/14th forward. Someone younger who can keep up a little better than Parros for the 5 -8 minutes of ice they get when needed. There are a ton of guys out there and they don't cost a lot. I think Bergevin should do it.
Someone posted a projected lineup earlier with Moen and Prust as the healthy scratches and let me tell you it would be about the softest, least gritty forward core this team has ever iced. It's nice that the Habs are starting to shed the 'small' label but ironically they seem to actually be a little softer going into this year than last year.
Someone posted a projected lineup earlier with Moen and Prust as the healthy scratches and let me tell you it would be about the softest, least gritty forward core this team has ever iced. It's nice that the Habs are starting to shed the 'small' label but ironically they seem to actually be a little softer going into this year than last year.
agreed, if they are depending on Prust and Moen that is definately a bad choice. Moen is useless fighter and Prust has the skills and heart but the body is damaged goods as we have seen ove the past few years
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Say what you want about Murray (I liked him for the fear factor i.e. You touch Price/Subban, you deal with me) and Parros (I hated this acquisition, but he was willing to drop 'em), last year was the first year in a long time that our beloved Habs weren't pushed around.
Given Lucic's threats, and what seems to be a league wide strategy of "push the Habs around and they crumble", I sense another year of being pushed around.
Lovely
Given Lucic's threats, and what seems to be a league wide strategy of "push the Habs around and they crumble", I sense another year of being pushed around.
Lovely
Ugh.
His first year with our club, Prust was thrown to the dogs. I don't think his body will ever recover from that horror show.
Moen - god, no. Keep your gloves on. Please.
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I think that a guy that can stand up to heavyweights is needed, but this team needs to sign its RFAs first.
That said, I don't understand why NHL teams don't take a slightly different approach to this, e.g.: having a few who are expected to scrap take judo or aikido. I can imagine that a guy with a black belt in aikido will give goons pause for thought, because any punch thrown could be used against the latter pugilist, with the former expert pulling on the lead hand, causing the opposing goon to lose his balance and possibly landing on his head. A team that takes this approach would effectively be adopting a disruptive technology that may completely uproot goon culture in the NHL.
That said, I don't understand why NHL teams don't take a slightly different approach to this, e.g.: having a few who are expected to scrap take judo or aikido. I can imagine that a guy with a black belt in aikido will give goons pause for thought, because any punch thrown could be used against the latter pugilist, with the former expert pulling on the lead hand, causing the opposing goon to lose his balance and possibly landing on his head. A team that takes this approach would effectively be adopting a disruptive technology that may completely uproot goon culture in the NHL.
What should he take away from that experiment? It wasn't that bad was it? I'm sure he could've gotten a little better if he could've played more and didn't get derailed by injuries twice, the first of which was a pretty unlucky injury. And it's not like the Habs had a horrible year last season due to carrying a 'goon'
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Given Lucic's threats, and what seems to be a league wide strategy of "push the Habs around and they crumble", I sense another year of being pushed around.
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Right, right... You mean like the strategy where the bruins out hit and intimidated the habs to the point where... The habs eliminated them?
Or no you must mean the Rangers series when the Rangers destroyed the habs with... Speed?
Hmmm you may want to rethink that one
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Montreal was basically goonless for most of last year. Parros was injured a lot after the opening night fight with Orr and again later in the season. Even healthy he didn't dress much.
More and more teams are realizing that this type of player is useless and a liability in the lineup and are going with the middleweight who can actually play hockey instead, ala Prust, Moen and Weise.
More and more teams are realizing that this type of player is useless and a liability in the lineup and are going with the middleweight who can actually play hockey instead, ala Prust, Moen and Weise.
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That last one being the most relevant, two young, tough as fk hockey players. No more one dimensional players ty.
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If Moen is an ineffective face-puncher, what does it make Weise? Please, for those suggesting Weise, he's a punching bag.
I too don't buy into the goon concept and think that a combo of Prust and Tinordi can hold the fort on most nights, when needed. Would have liked to see another gritty forward but not someone who can't hold a regular shift.
Weise is a terrible fighter and would get beat by most decent ones out there. He's a KO waiting to happen.
An heavyweight on a two-way contract at least please. Keep him in Hamilton and call him up when we face teams like Ottawa that have nothing to lose.
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I don't have a problem getting a fighter to be our 14th forward, absolutely don't want one in the lineup full-time however. Just a guy who can play the odd game when needed (10-15 games a year max), wouldn't mind having a guy like Staubitz for dirt cheap to fill our the roster, he seemed like he was well liked in his short time here and isn't THAT horrible of a player like Parros was.
Just tired of seeing Prust having to fight so often and I'd be surprised if Moen is still with us next year.
Just tired of seeing Prust having to fight so often and I'd be surprised if Moen is still with us next year.
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Not opposed to it but it seems less needed now than ever.
Of course we were supposed to get destroyed last year in the big bad Atlantic division with Scott and Thornton and Chara and Orr and McLaren and Neil and whoever else waiting to beat up our small forwards and we wound up coming out of the division despite playing 75% of the year with our enforcer in the hospital or the pressbox...so who really cares.
Of course we were supposed to get destroyed last year in the big bad Atlantic division with Scott and Thornton and Chara and Orr and McLaren and Neil and whoever else waiting to beat up our small forwards and we wound up coming out of the division despite playing 75% of the year with our enforcer in the hospital or the pressbox...so who really cares.
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Tinordi needs to play at least 50 games with the Habs next season. This D corps is soft as ****.
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