Post-Game Talk: Devil IV

[Machinehead]

@Captain Lindy The thing that is gross about this is that the Pens went on to win 9 playoff series and 2 Stanley Cups in a row right after this.

That's because they stopped surrounding their stars with plugs and put undersized speed and talent all over the lineup.

 

[bouds]

The issue the powerplay, Devils adjusted, played a way more defensive game than they had the first two games, kept 4 back, and so did the Rangers. Slow plodding game, but we had many opportunities and the PP is not clicking, I hate the setup, it just doesn't work. They got lucky with the Devils Dmen sleeping on KK and they got torched, since then it's been a slog.

 

[Filip Chytil]

And a lot of date nights trying to impress. Hey, Rangers playoffs make a great first date.

Watching the Rangers in the playoffs on a first date is a fantastic way to sabotage the relationship. I'll keep this one in mind in case I need it for the future.

 

[Larrybiv]

I’ve never been more confident of anything in my life as I am that the NYR will win the next 2 games and take the series 4-2. No need to worry.

They will, and there are going to be soooo many here ashamed of themselves while eating chiclets or crow, their choice.
This is our Rangers. NEVER the easy way. Being pushed to the edge, is more comfy for them.
This series may go down in history as the 1st that NO team, won a home game. Think about that. Could happen. (Think it would be the 1st anyway)

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

The bright side is, they've been the better team for most of this series and I don't think they'll lose three games in a row, let alone 4. They've handled the Devils speed and offense better than most thought they would. Maybe getting back out on "the road" will be good for them. Series is a long way from over.

 

[Megustaelhockey]

They will, and there are going to be soooo many here ashamed of themselves while eating chiclets or crow, their choice.
This is our Rangers. NEVER the easy way. Being pushed to the edge, is more comfy for them.
This series may go down in history as the 1st that NO team, won a home game. Think about that. Could happen. (Think it would be the 1st anyway)

It happened back when there were three-game playoff series, but never in the best-of-5 or best-of-7 era.

 

[Synergy27]

If the Rangers just got swept, maybe the "they don't care about losing" argument would at least pass the smell test.

I don't understand how one brings themself to believe they did it for two games, it worked, and *then* they went "nah, winning 5-1 was too hard."

Their offense is being shut down. Offense and perceived effort correlate 1:1. The offense is being shut down for a variety of the same reasons that have existed for multiple years.

“Effort” and “willingness/ability to do what it takes to win” are not one in the same.

Panarin can try as hard as he can to deke around and curl back and open up passing lanes but if he’s not willing to simplify the game and crash the net when that shit isn’t working then he is showing an unwillingness to do what is needed to win.

It’s not just him, but all criticism starts with him because of his contract.

The playoffs are about bounces and desire, and all too often good bounces are created by more desire. That’s pretty much it. Outside of the occasional outlier really good or really bad team, all of these teams can win. Wanting it more is a thing when the playing field is mostly level.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Watching the Rangers in the playoffs on a first date is a fantastic way to sabotage the relationship. I'll keep this one in mind in case I need it for the future.

On the other hand, she could see how lazy and how much of a failure the Rangers players are that it makes you look good in comparison.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I honestly see both sides of this.

Having watched them for a few years, I just don't know if I see star players. That's more true for Lafreniere.

That being said, the Rangers have done nothing to help the situation.

The kid line is fine, I guess, as a line. A bit one-trick for my taste and not enough scoring, but they can be effective in a certain context. My main concern with it is that it creates this very awkwardly shaped block in the puzzle. They have to be together, but we're not putting all of them in the top six.

I get that Chytil kind of is where he is with our center depth, and maybe Laf is just mid, but at the very least, Kakko should be playing with finesse players to match his tank-like style, not other grinders. That's why the line doesn't score.

I honestly see both sides of this too haha

Both Laf and Kakko were given plenty of time on the top line at certain moments in the past two seasons. They couldve taken the ball and never looked back.

The PP is another story, but Kakko has been given PK time which is how they rolled with Buch and that rounded his game into form. I like to use Buch as an example because it also took him a few seasons before he popped and he also worked his way up the lineup and exploded - right in time form to be was traded.

One of the reasons Gallant keeps the kid line together is because they are one of the only lines that actually keep up some forecheck pressure in the other zone. Its like they need that otherwise its a mish mosh of compete.

But yeah, when they are rolling and scoring its amazing, but most of the time they just keep possession. Which is nice but at this point this team needs production in addition to that.

I also think if anyone should be playing with better players its Kakko

 

[Cmox]

It's always hilarious when Rangers fans stand there with their thumbs up their ***** and ask why Lafreniere and Kakko aren't stars. You develop with ice-time, opportunity, etc. It's ****** year four for Kakko, year 5 for Chytil. All still sheltered as third liners for stars like Panarin who lack the heart and chops in the playoffs. I have no issue with the entire Kid Line.

Yeah, Laff is top 5 on the team in hits, him and Fil are top 10 in shots. I mean, he isn't biggest the issue. Laff shouldn’t be above Lindgren, Schneider and Miller in hits. And Fil & laff have more shots than Tro.

 

[duhmetreE]

can we dump Trouba off of PP2? Seriously. How is this still a thing?

 

[Filip Chytil]

On the other hand, she could see how lazy and how much of a failure the Rangers players are that it makes you look good in comparison.

One look at Lafreniere and she'll think I'm DiCaprio

 

[Cmox]

And a lot of date nights trying to impress. Hey, Rangers playoffs make a great first date.

Man, That would be a horrible first impression.

 

[The Gloaming]

can we dump Trouba off of PP2? Seriously. How is this still a thing?

Thought this would be done after his penalty hat trick against Tampa.

 

[bl02]

can we dump Trouba off of PP2? Seriously. How is this still a thing?

Said it during over the last few games. It's unreal. He's molasses along the blue line. Can Miller not be given a chance? At least he may have some ability to walk the blue line and get a wrist shot off toward the net. Not even gonna mention if he flubs the puck the only way to stop the opposing rush is to take a penalty.

 

[will1066]

The ironic thing is that in his early days, he actually played like how people wish he would play. And then he was given a bunch of boarding majors for being too strong and that was that. He learned quickly that availability is the best ability.

Yup, exactly

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

One look at Lafreniere and she'll think I'm DiCaprio

Only if she’s 20

 

[Cmox]

One look at Lafreniere and she'll think I'm DiCaprio

Better point to the rafters whenever Schneider has a shift.

 

[EdJovanovski]

can we dump Trouba off of PP2? Seriously. How is this still a thing?

 

[haohmaru]

So.... according to this we slightly outplayed them????

 

[NickyFotiu]

Not true. Rangers do not operate like that. They don't have a coach that operates like that. All you have to see is him right now coaching in these playoffs. He's never been about adjustments. He lives and dies and overplays his star players. He tells the media today his Kid Line was his best line and loves the way they are playing, YET THEY WERE THE THIRD LINE MOST PLAYED. The coach sucks. Don't make any adjustments, GG, why should you? All the hate Ruff gets from this board and the geniuses on Twitter LMFAO.

Best does not mean most productive. We needed goals. Hockeybased is right. If our kid line produced like first line players we never would have traded for Tank and Kane. That does not mean that they can't improve and maybe one day produce more but their production is not a GG issue. Nor was it a David Quinn issue. You could coach them the next 10 games and they still would be who they are. You see them on the ice. When you watch them and you watch Hughes don't you see the difference in how many quality chances our guys produce?

Yeah that's the thing, theyve had opportunities to play at the top of the lineup and never run with it. Kakko has been on lines that have had great results to be fair but he's never scored enough and Lafreniere is always underwhelming.

They both have had their fair share of chances playing on the 1st and 2nd lines. Its not about lines. They are just not there right now. It is possible they grow in to those roles but they have not yet. They have played their best on the 3rd line. If they were 1st line players then their line would look like a first line.

 

[duhmetreE]

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So.... according to this we slightly outplayed them????

According to this, I would have thrown shit on the ice if I paid $3K for tickets last night... what a horrible series so far.

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If this team isn't staying in Hotels, when at home, they need to be.

This is how fragile our locker room is. Keep them focused and thinking only about hockey. Curfews in full effect, no drinking day before game.

 

[haohmaru]

According to this, I would have thrown shit on the ice if I paid $3K for tickets last night... what a horrible series so far.

It might be...no, actually, it was the most unwatchable Rangers playoff game I've ever watched. Hideous.

 

[Zarao71]

Zbad 0 goals in the last 9 games
Panarin 0 goals in the playoffs
Trouba 0 goals in 17 games
Chytil 1 empty net goal in 12 games
Laff 0 goals in 9 games
Fox 0 goals in 10 games
Miller 0 goals in 9 games
Goodrow 0 goals in 20 games

I give Fox a pass the rest can GTFO

 

[NickyFotiu]

can we dump Trouba off of PP2? Seriously. How is this still a thing?

That may be the first thing I agree with you on.
Maybe I need to rethink that lol.