Value of: Defense to Toronto

[flamesforcup]

lol @ suggesting Nylander is better than Pastrnack

 

[Nuckles]

if he's back in 2-3 weeks , that's not a long injury for him . Don't expect him to play more than 70 games , prob 50 is what he can handle ... sad , good player when healthy

He'll miss 7-11 games from this. But one thing is for certain, the difference is night and day when he's gone from the lineup. The Canucks lost 4-1 to an Anaheim team that was missing Getzlaf, Kesler, Fowler, Gibson, Kase, and Eaves.

 

[Halla]

alright leafs are 10-7.

time to take a step back and see how things pan out.

and no, marner isn't getting traded.

 

[Halla]

He'll miss 7-11 games from this. But one thing is for certain, the difference is night and day when he's gone from the lineup. The Canucks lost 4-1 to an Anaheim team that was missing Getzlaf, Kesler, Fowler, Gibson, Kase, and Eaves.

the problem is that he is gone so often.

its pretty baffling for a guy to have never dressed in more than 70 games in a pro season. this injury probably extends the streak to 8 years (incl. lockout)

 

[Halla]

lol @ suggesting Nylander is better than Pastrnack

0.75ppg vs 0.73ppg.

these kids are very close. an "lol" would be suggesting bennett is even in the same stratosphere as these two

remember the bennett vs nylander thread draft +1?

Bennett = Nylander + Rielly was my personal favorite

 

[Halla]

I feel like next year Calgary will be looking to drop a defenseman off of our top 4.

Frankly I just want to keep Brodie. Gio, Hamilton, and Hamonic could all be had for the right price.

Our prospects will force a move sooner or later.

can't see hamonic going anywhere. he basically asked to get traded to a western canadian team so any team acquiring him would be taking a huge risk of him bolting in 2 3/4 seasons

 

[Kybb79]

What would the Leafs give up for Dougie Hamilton?Just curious.

 

[mw2noobbuster]

What would the Leafs give up for Dougie Hamilton?Just curious.

Not what the Flames would ask for.

 

[flamesforcup]

0.75ppg vs 0.73ppg.

these kids are very close. an "lol" would be suggesting bennett is even in the same stratosphere as these two

remember the bennett vs nylander thread draft +1?

Bennett = Nylander + Rielly was my personal favorite

Marner=Gaudreau and Rielly=Brodie are my favorites. Hell even Nylander=Gaudreau is looking hilarious right now. But i dont see how thats relevent to this thread. Insecure much?

 

[Drew311]

What would the Leafs give up for Dougie Hamilton?Just curious.

Would definitely be something around Marner.

Maybe something like Marner + Dermott + 2nd. Would have to be some kind of cap dump going to CGY to even things out.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What would the Leafs give up for Dougie Hamilton?Just curious.

It would definitely have to start around Marner that's for sure.

 

[maccanes]

I'd give pesce and two 2nds.

 

[wannabebluesplayer]

I would prob do this, Jay might bring someone calmness to this D , we'll throw in Marincin !

No...we really don't need Marincin back

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Tanev is worth a late 1st or a 2nd+Carrick+Bracco. Nowhere near Marner.

Here Canucks, have this handful of stuff for your top pairing defenceman. No, no, sorry, this is the deal you're taking. I don't care if you don't want these pieces, these are the toys we're not playing with right now.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Lebrun reported Columbus, who are knee deep with good young D men organizationally. Could this be a fit for the Leafs and Columbus if Marner is indeed on the block as Kyper indicated earlier this week?

 

[PinkFly]

Here Canucks, have this handful of stuff for your top pairing defenceman. No, no, sorry, this is the deal you're taking. I don't care if you don't want these pieces, these are the toys we're not playing with right now.

Tanev isn't a top pairing defenseman in the league, he's a #3.

 

[Liferleafer]

Here Canucks, have this handful of stuff for your top pairing defenceman. No, no, sorry, this is the deal you're taking. I don't care if you don't want these pieces, these are the toys we're not playing with right now.

Ya, maybe we should deal Marner for Tanev....i am sure once he is back from yet another injury in his long line of injuries....it will work out great.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

I WAS willing to do Tanev for Marner but I'm not so sure anymore. Leafs missed their chance. I'd still do it for Nylander though.

Yeah good thing your not running the Canucks...you'd get burned in effigy in the middle of the city for nixing a Marner/Tanev trade.

I really highly doubt the Leafs are looking to make this blockbuster defence trade everyone keeps talking about, they just drafted a potential high pedigree dman, they have 3 top 4 dmen, they are in year ****ing 2 of their current core, idiots on the radio just need something to talk about. I would be shocked if anyone in the organization was hitting the panic button like fans and media are.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Tanev isn't a top pairing defenseman in the league, he's a #3.

He's definitely a top pairing defenceman on the Leafs.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ya, maybe we should deal Marner for Tanev....i am sure once he is back from yet another injury in his long line of injuries....it will work out great.

Your call, but Vancouver is absolutely not obligated to take a mediocre 2nd rounder, a bottom pairing defenceman, and your 5th or 6th best prospect for a player they don't really want to move anyway.

 

[The Podium]

Lebrun reported Columbus, who are knee deep with good young D men organizationally. Could this be a fit for the Leafs and Columbus if Marner is indeed on the block as Kyper indicated earlier this week?

Doubt it, Marner is too much for Murray or Savard but not enough for Werenski or Jones. Also Kypreos was speculating with no basis, he wasn't indicating anything.

 

[Liferleafer]

Your call, but Vancouver is absolutely not obligated to take a mediocre 2nd rounder, a bottom pairing defenceman, and your 5th or 6th best prospect for a player they don't really want to move anyway.

Obviously. In turn, Toronto is not obligated to pay a premium either.

 

[PinkFly]

He's definitely a top pairing defenceman on the Leafs.

I know I'm a slight homer but no. He would be #3 right now and then #4 if Gardiner turns it around.

Your call, but Vancouver is absolutely not obligated to take a mediocre 2nd rounder, a bottom pairing defenceman, and your 5th or 6th best prospect for a player they don't really want to move anyway.

They don't have to. That's his value given his history. He's the defenseman version of Joffrey Lupul.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I know I'm a slight homer but no. He would be #3 right now and then #4 if Gardiner turns it around.



They don't have to. That's his value given his history. He's the defenseman version of Joffrey Lupul.

He would not be your number 3, he would be on your top pairing. If he wasn't, you'd be misusing him.

In that he's injury prone, sure. Otherwise the two couldn't be more different.

Everyone in the league knows all Toronto needs to make a run of it is a couple of top four defencemen, and you expect another team to gift you one for spare parts? When you have a wealth of forward talent? Come on. You're bare minimum paying what Calgary gave up for Hamonic.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

What would a deal around Bouwmeester and Kapanen look like from the perspective?

Edit-Nevermind. I think it would have to be revisited once J-Bow is back skating, but that is an unknown timetable.