WWE: DANIEL BRYAN RETIRES -- Thank you, Bryan

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Daniel Bryan continued his WWE TV media tour in Singapore this weekend, which meant more questions about whether he’s going to wrestle again for WWE.

In the latest interview, Bryan talked about some sort of “compromise” since WWE doctors will not clear him to wrestle.

“Because of my history with concussions, the WWE medical doctor wouldn’t clear me. We’re in the process of trying to figure out some compromise,” Bryan told the Straits Time.

“They keep sending me to do more tests, brain MRIs, brain EGs, and all my tests have come back great to the point where my brain is better than someone my age with no concussion.”

- PWTorch

 

[Kimi]

“Because of my history with concussions, the WWE medical doctor wouldn’t clear me. We’re in the process of trying to figure out some compromise,”.

That's an interesting line. Sounds like he's fully fit, but the WWE think he's got too high of a risk level to let work.

 

[ColePens]

That last line is ultra interesting, too. If his tests are coming back THAT good... then what is the problem?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

If I were him and had the option I'd retire of my own volition. The long-term effects of concussions are terrifying and by all accounts he has had more than his fair share.

The problem is that right now he wouldn't be retiring of his own volition. He'd be retiring because WWE is basically forcing him to.

 

[RockLobster]

That last line is ultra interesting, too. If his tests are coming back THAT good... then what is the problem?

He's the mose over guy on the roster, and doesn't fit what Vince wants as someone in that role...that's all I can think of at this point, unless there's some other injury that they're not disclosing

 

[Emperoreddy]

That last line is ultra interesting, too. If his tests are coming back THAT good... then what is the problem?

There must be a liability issue that even if they clear him, if he has another concussion he would have the edge in a potential law suit.

I can't think Vince is so petty he would have the doctors refuse to clear him because he would ruin his plans.

This again could also all be a work

 

[RockLobster]

There must be a liability issue that even if they clear him, if he has another concussion he would have the edge in a potential law suit.

I can't think Vince is so petty he would have the doctors refuse to clear him because he would ruin his plans.

This again could also all be a work

Can't help but want to call "bulls***" on the liability issue, because they've cleared Tommy Dreamer to not just compete in regular matches, but also an Elimination Tables Match tomorrow night.

 

[Kimi]

That last line is ultra interesting, too. If his tests are coming back THAT good... then what is the problem?

I don't think current health is the issue (he's been saying he's fine for ages now). The issues is that he still has a high risk of being (badly) concussed again.

 

[RockLobster]

I don't think current health is the issue (he's been saying he's fine for ages now). The issues is that he still has a high risk of being (badly) concussed again.

Every professional wrestler is at risk for a concussion.

 

[Kimi]

Every professional wrestler is at risk for a concussion.

Yes, but there's a higher chance of having additional concussions after already suffering one.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

“Because of my history with concussions, the WWE medical doctor wouldn’t clear me. We’re in the process of trying to figure out some compromise,â€.

That's an interesting line. Sounds like he's fully fit, but the WWE think he's got too high of a risk level to let work.

This sounds to me like lawyer territory. If he's that committed to performing, I'm quite sure they could draft up a disclaimer that Daniel understands the risk he's taking and can, in turn, indemnify the WWE of any possible consequences.

It's a slippery slope, but if both sides are willing to concede on that point, it should get done.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

This is not without precedent. They did the same thing with Christian.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don't think current health is the issue (he's been saying he's fine for ages now). The issues is that he still has a high risk of being (badly) concussed again.

Rocklobster brings up the valid point as to why the hell Dreamer is wrestling right now then considering his history.

I mean I get the thinking. Even if he is a picture of health right now, if DB gets in the ring again and suffers another head injury it could be many times worse then the last ones because of his history and WWE could be facing nasty legal issues.

On the other hand it does seem contradictory to keep DB sidelined and let old man/repeatedly concussed Dreamer wrestle a Table's match tomorrow. Yes the details are different in the amount of work and such, but the optics don't look right.

Plus this is the same company that let old man Sting nearly paralyze himself in the main event of a PPV.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

That is a valid point. Maybe because he's not full time? (Referring to Dreamer and Sting)

 

[Kimi]

Rocklobster brings up the valid point as to why the hell Dreamer is wrestling right now then considering his history.

I mean I get the thinking. Even if he is a picture of health right now, if DB gets in the ring again and suffers another head injury it could be many times worse then the last ones because of his history and WWE could be facing nasty legal issues.

On the other hand it does seem contradictory to keep DB sidelined and let old man/repeatedly concussed Dreamer wrestle a Table's match tomorrow. Yes the details are different in the amount of work and such, but the optics don't look right.

Plus this is the same company that let old man Sting nearly paralyze himself in the main event of a PPV.

I've got no clue why Dreamer is wrestling. It makes no sense to me, and I agree it looks wrong considering the Bryan stuff.

I dunno if he's had 'medically different' concussions or something. Or maybe he just not being paid much so it doesn't matter (unlike Bryan who'll be on a big contract).

I'm sure it'll make sense to the legal department in someway, but I've no idea how.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I've got no clue why Dreamer is wrestling. It makes no sense to me, and I agree it looks wrong considering the Bryan stuff.

I dunno if he's had 'medically different' concussions or something. Or maybe he just not being paid much so it doesn't matter (unlike Bryan who'll be on a big contract).

I'm sure it'll make sense to the legal department in someway, but I've no idea how.

Might be the size of the name. Dreamer taking a bad bump on a table tomorrow can be brushed under the rug easier because who cares about Tommy Dreamer?

DB taking a bad bump and going to court is a media firestorm as a lot more people know who he is.

IDK Vince being inconsistent with this **** isn't exactly surprising even if it is wrong and annoying. We will just have to wait and see if they either come to an agreement, or if this is just a work.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Maybe it's a history thing? Dreamer gets his brain scrambled tomorrow and has to sit in a dark room for weeks at a time then it can just be a "well, look what he did to himself BEFORE he came to the WWE!". Can't do that as much with DB?

 

[ColePens]

I don't think current health is the issue (he's been saying he's fine for ages now). The issues is that he still has a high risk of being (badly) concussed again.

I'm not a doctor, no medical background, and I'm not a specialist. If his results are coming back that strong, then he isn't a risk. I could see if his results showed some damage and the doctor warned him. If his results are THAT GOOD, then there is no debate.

That's like saying nobody can wrestle because they could get a concussion. The results have to show deterioration. They are not, by what DB ks saying.

Like I said, I don't have medical background. Am I missing something here?

 

[ColePens]

Higher risk, imo, means something showed on test results. If nothing is showing, then he's not higher risk.

 

[Kimi]

I'm not a doctor, no medical background, and I'm not a specialist. If his results are coming back that strong, then he isn't a risk. I could see if his results showed some damage and the doctor warned him. If his results are THAT GOOD, then there is no debate.

That's like saying nobody can wrestle because they could get a concussion. The results have to show deterioration. They are not, by what DB ks saying.

Like I said, I don't have medical background. Am I missing something here?

Like I said before, once you've had one concussion you've got a higher chance of having a second one by a significant amount. You can be perfectly fine, but that higher risk stays.


But I also have no clue what I'm talking about, all my medical knowledge comes from Scrubs, House, and Google xD.

 

[ColePens]

Yeah concussions are tough right now. Even doctors don't have a clear say in what's right and what's wrong. I just find it odd. If his results showed something, then I understand completely. Since they didn't, then he should get the say.

If the standard is possible additional concussions, then you could cut half the roster right now. There is no way that's the standard.

And I do not believe its a work. I don't think they'll mess with concussions at that high of a level. That's just silly.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Like I said before, once you've had one concussion you've got a higher chance of having a second one by a significant amount. You can be perfectly fine, but that higher risk stays.


But I also have no clue what I'm talking about, all my medical knowledge comes from Scrubs, House, and Google xD.

With the whole concussion thing, there is absolutely nobody on this roster that isn't in the same boat as Bryan.

 

[Kimi]

He might have had a type of concussion that leads to a higher risk later on. Or something. I really have no clue.

If it was complicated mathematics, then I could help. Squidgy inside bits I got nothing.

 

[Kimi]

And I do not believe its a work. I don't think they'll mess with concussions at that high of a level. That's just silly.

Yeah, I don't think it's a work. But I wouldn't be surprised if Vince is just holding him back until after Reigns push or whatever.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

FYI
The WWE doctor is Joseph Maroon, who is not portrayed particularly well in the "Concussion" movie, you have to consider the politics here with him

If there is proof DB's brain is fine then how can you tell him he can't wrestle? that would be like saying someone has a broken leg, when they are walking perfectly normal.

Vince needs to do what's best for business and let him wrestle.