Dallas Stars 2015-2016

[Mr Misty]

1 year left for Goligoski. Also less turnover is better.

 

[LT]

None of those trades are very realistic for either side.

As said before, way too many moving parts.

 

[OttMorrow]

Now that this season is all said and done...

Who are our UFAs and RFAs this offseason? (now that CapGeek is no more)

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

Now that this season is all said and done...

Who are our UFAs and RFAs this offseason? (now that CapGeek is no more)

UFA
Horcoff
Eaves
Enroth
(and Pevs)
RFA
Klingberg
Nemeth
Oleksiak
Joki
McKenzie
(and Campbell)

I think NHLnumbers is the place to go now unfortunately. But even-still, the armchair GM in me is still suffering through Capgeek induced withdrawals.

 

[LowSodium]

I would be fine with making Campbell the backup next year if we didn't really plan on being competitive next year, but since we're a bubble team we need to do whatever is necessary to improve our goaltending situation. And to be honest, I really don't know how we do that.

Options:

- Roll with Lehts/Enroth again
- Sign Dubnyk/Niemi
- Let Campbell try out the NHL

I'm torn between the first and 2nd option really.

 

[LT]

Not being competitive isn't an option.

Dubnyk is who I want, but Minnesota would be stupid to let him go. They also play a much, much better defensive system than we have.

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

Maybe instead of going after Dubnyk, we get the goaltending coach who teaches the technique that Dubnyk is using to revitalize his career. Here's the link if you don't know what I'm talking about...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=754075

Quotes from the article...

-Mast has worked on its development since 2008 with Los Angeles Kings goaltending coach Bill Ranford, who uses a core portion of it with the Kings goaltenders.

-"I believe head trajectory and the mechanics of how we track with our head to allow our body to move the way we need it to move as a goalie is as revolutionary as my first experience transitioning form skate saves to butterfly," Valiquette said. "Actually this is bigger."

I don't know, sounds a bit like magic beans to me, but I think it's definitely worth an inquiry at the very least. Maybe we could find ourselves the next Francois Allaire.

 

[LT]

Maybe instead of going after Dubnyk, we get the goaltending coach who teaches the technique that Dubnyk is using to revitalize his career. Here's the link if you don't know what I'm talking about...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=754075

Quotes from the article...

-Mast has worked on its development since 2008 with Los Angeles Kings goaltending coach Bill Ranford, who uses a core portion of it with the Kings goaltenders.

-"I believe head trajectory and the mechanics of how we track with our head to allow our body to move the way we need it to move as a goalie is as revolutionary as my first experience transitioning form skate saves to butterfly," Valiquette said. "Actually this is bigger."

I don't know, sounds a bit like magic beans to me, but I think it's definitely worth an inquiry at the very least. Maybe we could find ourselves the next Francois Allaire.

This could work too. Regardless, Valley needs to go IMO. Hasn't really shown anything with our goalies at any level.

 

[OttMorrow]

UFA
Horcoff
Eaves
Enroth
(and Pevs)
RFA
Klingberg
Nemeth
Oleksiak
Joki
McKenzie
(and Campbell)

I think NHLnumbers is the place to go now unfortunately. But even-still, the armchair GM in me is still suffering through Capgeek induced withdrawals.

Thanks, Abilify.

 

[LowSodium]

What kind of contract can we expect to see Klingberg get? I really have no idea. Prove-it bridge contract? Long term extension?

While he's looked good he still has the possibility of regression next season.

 

[Ghost of Kyiv]

What kind of contract can we expect to see Klingberg get? I really have no idea. Prove-it bridge contract? Long term extension?

While he's looked good he still has the possibility of regression next season.

There's a tough question that I'd love to know the answer to. There are literally no good compatibles to his situation to draw from. I think him having played only 65 games, plus potential concerns of a sophomore slump and his injury history will all be very concerning and may limit any long term extensions. I'd guess a 2 year bridge, but I could be totally off.

The long term option might be a great choice though, it's probably what I would do. The Stars have a good amount of cap space this year which they may not be able to use efficiently. So if you sign him long term now, you are able to use some of that space to suppress his AAV in the future. When cap-space will be at a premium. That is obviously risky, but the long term payoff could be massive.

But who knows, I wanted Dillon signed long term last year and in hindsight, that would have been a total mistake. Thank goodness Nill is far smarter than I am. If the patients he showed last year are any indication though, we might have an awfully long time to talk about it.

 

[________]

What kind of contract can we expect to see Klingberg get? I really have no idea. Prove-it bridge contract? Long term extension?

While he's looked good he still has the possibility of regression next season.

Jamie Oleksiak $874,125
He’s either part of the NHL seven or traded by next season

John Klingberg $745,000 Stars will likely push for long-term extension

Jyrki Jokipakka$715,000 Has earned a spot in the lineup going forward

Link

 

[hagan88]

I would like to see Seabrook here next year. What do you think it would take to get him away from the Hawks and does he have a NTC.

 

[LowSodium]

I would like to see Seabrook here next year. What do you think it would take to get him away from the Hawks

An early playoff exit for the Hawks.

 

[LT]

I would like to see Seabrook here next year. What do you think it would take to get him away from the Hawks and does he have a NTC.

Too much.

Something like Daley + Ritchie + Jokipakka + 1st is about the most I'd be okay with moving, and even that's a hefty overpayment. And its still probably not enough to pull Seabrook away from a divisional rival.

 

[hagan88]

Too much.

Something like Daley + Ritchie + Jokipakka + 1st is about the most I'd be okay with moving, and even that's a hefty overpayment. And its still probably not enough to pull Seabrook away from a divisional rival.

I wouldn't mind this trade if it is 2016 1st, but CHI will probably get better offers outside of the division.

 

[Satan]

I was interested that Nill mentioned that had Faksa not gotten injured, he may have gotten a couple games up with the Stars.

Seems like he's on the verge which is nice despite his offensive struggles. At this point it would be really nice for him to become a defensive specialist.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

...

I dont think you need to make any drastic changes. You finished with a decent 41-31 record and improved as season went along, despite key long-term injuries to Nichushkin and Nemeth and a down season for Lehtonen.

The defense should improve with more experience. The offense is already elite. Lehtonen, if paired with a good backup like Enroth who can give him some rest, will be better.

I would like to see this lineup next season:
Benn - Seguin - Nichushkin
Hemsky - Spezza - Ritchie
Faksa/Janmark - Eakin - Roussel
Eaves - Fiddler - Garbutt
Sceviour

Nemeth - Klingberg
Goligoski - Demers
Daley - Oleksiak
Jokipakka

Lehtonen
Enroth

I feel that is a playoff team. You have 3 scoring lines and a strong 4th line. You then have an above average defense now that Klingberg and Nemeth and Oleksiak have some more experience. Lehtonen should rebound well if he plays less and has a better D in front of him.

Only major change I would consider making is the coach. I'm not impressed with Ruff at all, never was. He did nothing for Buffalo, they were always mediocre under him. So IF Nill can somehow convince Babcock to jump ship , then I would gladly hire Babcock! If the available coaches are all crap, then you might as well stay with Ruff for now.

 

[Alveio]

So you'd be happy to stay with the same defence which was pretty bad all season long ? That's not how we're gonna make it to the playoffs. We need a #1 D-man !

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

...

So you'd be happy to stay with the same defence which was pretty bad all season long ? That's not how we're gonna make it to the playoffs. We need a #1 D-man !

You have a #1 Defenseman: John Klingberg

Yes, he is still very young and only has 1 year of NHL experience. However, he also has the skating and the skills that you cannot teach. His defensive game is improving.

He actually reminds me of Erik Karlsson and of course Sergei Zubov.

So you can go one of 2 routes:
Lock up Klingberg long-term now at a reasonable cap hit and let him blossom

OR

Go after an older #1 like Phaneuf for whom you will have to overpay in cap hit and players that you will need to trade as well

(You won't find an elite #1 Defenseman in free agency...those guys get locked up to long-term deals ASAP by their own teams!)

I believe option #1 is much better. You save on cap and use it elsewhere. You don't give up other good young players in a trade. Nill has explored Phaneuf avenue already and from what I read he has decided against that route, which is smart. I do believe he will let this young Defense develop.

Will this D be better next season? Yes. They all added 1 year of NHL experience and thats huge. None of them are rookies anymore and they will still have Goligoski, Daley and Demers to provide experience.

 

[Alveio]

Considering Klingberg as our #1 Dman is somehow.. Suicidal I guess. I love the kid, he plays well. But you can't consider a sophomore as your number 1 if you're a playoff contender. That's just insane.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

This team is not going to win Cup next season. It's still developing.

So to make the playoffs, yes I do think this lineup, with maybe 1-2 small signings (like Enroth), can make playoffs.

You only finished 7 points out of playoffs, not 20

 

[LT]

Evgeny's got a point - I feel like we all underrate how young and inexperienced our defense was this season. Let the kids start to take the reins and maybe we'll see something special happen, like we did with Klingberg this year.

It can't get much worse than last season, so why not?

 

[OttMorrow]

Evgeny's got a point - I feel like we all underrate how young and inexperienced our defense was this season. Let the kids start to take the reins and maybe we'll see something special happen, like we did with Klingberg this year.

It can't get much worse than last season, so why not?

At this point, I'm fine with letting Klingberg, Nemeth, and Jokipakka all start in the game-opener next year. They all look solid now.

I do think you have to upgrade one or both of GoGo and Dales. That's the key to us taking our D into the upper echelon.

 

[LT]

Agreed. I'd prefer to upgrade Daley, personally. Love the guy as a person and a leader, but on the ice, he's just not what we need.