GDT: dalcar

[WreckingCrew]

I understand giving McGinn a shot on the 2nd line as a nice reward for his last game...but I continue to be baffled as to why Ryan keeps getting rewarded for doing Jack shit? At this rate he'll be 1C before too long

 

[Joe McGrath]

I understand giving McGinn a shot on the 2nd line as a nice reward for his last game...but I continue to be baffled as to why Ryan keeps getting rewarded for doing Jack ****? At this rate he'll be 1C before too long

Yeah I mean it’s not like he had the primary assists on both of McGinn’s goals or anything.

 

[AD Skinner]

If he is dishing to players who score, so be it. I've been a vocal detractor of Ryan but he has 5 points in the last 5 games and has a better faceoff % than any other center on the team. He is doing about as well as could possibly be expected. If Derek Ryan is the driver of your offense that's the management's fault, not his

 

[GoldiFox]

McGinn-Ryan-Williams is a stellar 4th line for a Cup contender.

 

[Breakdowns]

One more reminder, we don`t have a real 2nd and 3rd line, they play almost equal minutes every night

Just Peters f***boy Ryan plays in every situation ever

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Here. Let me try to fix it for you all.

Aho-Staal-Teravainen
Skinner-Rask-Lindholm
McGinn-Ryan-Williams
Nordstrom-Kruger-Jooris

Everyone ok? Now he’s not on the second line.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Here. Let me try to fix it for you all.

Aho-Staal-Teravainen
Skinner-Rask-Lindholm
McGinn-Ryan-Williams
Nordstrom-Kruger-Jooris

Everyone ok? Now he’s not on the second line.

Skinner has been the third line left wing since Peters got here. Never mind anything else, including but not limited to, TOI, common sense, actual deployment, etc. etc.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Skinner has been the third line left wing since Peters got here. Never mind anything else, including but not limited to, TOI, common sense, actual deployment, etc. etc.

Proposal: Peters needs to send a message to this team. Shake up the lines big time.

Nordstrom-Kruger-Jooris
Skinner-Rask-Lindholm
McGinn-Ryan-Williams
Aho-Staal-Teravainen

Maybe a demotion to the 4th line will be enough motivation for Aho to stop dogging it and actually even TRY to score a goal.

 

[WreckingCrew]

If he is dishing to players who score, so be it. I've been a vocal detractor of Ryan but he has 5 points in the last 5 games and has a better faceoff % than any other center on the team. He is doing about as well as could possibly be expected. If Derek Ryan is the driver of your offense that's the management's fault, not his

Fair enough, and I know we don't really have traditional 1, 2, 3 lines. I will add though, Ryan didn't really dish the puck out to players who scored...first one was a shot attempt he shanked off the heel of his stick and McGinn swatted it home, the second he swatted at the puck and chipped it up ice where McGinn won the race. I mean, it worked, McGinn got 2 goals and Ryan the primary assists, dirty or not if it worked it worked...but I have trouble really giving much credit to Ryan for setting them up, they were good puck luck. I mean, I guess at this point it's hard to argue Rask has been any better as "2C"...i think that's the real crux of it.

Anyone else a little surprised at this point that Williams leads the team in points?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Anyone else a little surprised at this point that Williams leads the team in points?

Surprised it’s anyone but Skinner. After that, any of Lindholm,Aho, Williams, Staal, Rask wouldn’t have shocked me.

 

[bluedevil58]

Yeah I mean it’s not like he had the primary assists on both of McGinn’s goals or anything.

Bill Peters.....???

IS THAT YOU?!!!!

 

[Joe McGrath]

Bill Peters.....???

IS THAT YOU?!!!!

Yep, complete with undermining my own decision making on a regular basis.

 

[geehaad]

Yep, complete with undermining my own decision making on a regular basis.

Plausible deniability.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Plausible deniability.

I’m pretty crafty

 

[AD Skinner]

I'm not trying to claim that Ryan is the second coming of Marc Savard or anything, just saying that he's getting results right now when no one else is. There not being any other good options is not the fault of the players or the coach, just a sad reality.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Maybe, just maybe...

Derek Ryan, who scored 29 points in 67 games last year, and has 8 points in 15 games this year, is actually one of the 372 best forwards in North America and actually belongs on an NHL roster in some capacity.

 

[MinJaBen]

Maybe, just maybe...

Derek Ryan, who scored 29 points in 67 games last year, and has 8 points in 15 games this year, is actually one of the 372 best forwards in North America and actually belongs on an NHL roster in some capacity.

Yeah, everything I've seen so far tells me he's better than Rask, just not as big.....


....ok, I get it now.

 

[Breakdowns]

Start the game already

 

[Unsustainable]

So caught up on tonight’s narrative why we lost

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Sorry for OT, but...

Sweden just beat Italy in the playoffs and qualified for the World Cup in Russia next summer.

f*** YEAH

 

[Breakdowns]

Sorry for OT, but...

Sweden just beat Italy in the playoffs and qualified for the World Cup in Russia next summer.

**** YEAH

I saw that, shocking, but congrats mate!

 

[Tryamw]

No don't start the game yet I'm at work @#%$@# it!

 

[HisIceness]

Just f***ing win please.

 

[Ole Gil]

I'm not trying to claim that Ryan is the second coming of Marc Savard or anything, just saying that he's getting results right now when no one else is. There not being any other good options is not the fault of the players or the coach, just a sad reality.

He's the new Chad Larose. Chad had 76 goals over 5 seasons, including 2 19 goal seasons. There are a lot of decent hockey players in the NHL who will never score 19 goals in a season.

Ryan is the same thing. In a perfect world, you want someone better. But he passes the puck well. He knows where he's supposed to be. He wins faceoffs. He doesn't make his linemates worse. He's shown he can put up decent points over a decent sample size.

He's definitely a weird pick for team scapegoat.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Skinner has been the third line left wing since Peters got here. Never mind anything else, including but not limited to, TOI, common sense, actual deployment, etc. etc.

That's just not true. He's third amongst our forwards in average ES ice time per game this season, was *first* last year, 5th in 15-16, and 5th in 14-15.

Just because Mike Smith and Chip Alexander like to frequently list his line as being the "third line" doesn't mean that he's actually getting third line ice time. Does anyone here watch the games or even look at the stats? Peters has been pretty consistently been going with three "scoring" lines where each line gets similar ice time. Would it make some of you feel better if Skinner-Rask-Lindholm was listed by our writers as the first line instead of the third? It makes no difference.