OT: Coronavirus XXXV: Y'all Got Any More of Them Vaccines?

[CupofOil]

FTR, the Vaccine distribution here in New York (of all places) is garbage so certain parts of the U.S. shouldn't be commended for their vaccine efforts.
They had a good supply about a month back, a lot of 75 and over folks got their first shot then they moved the eligibility to 65 and over which my mother now qualifies for and as a result are short on supply (duh, what did they expect when they expanded the age eligibles?), they close down some of the vaccine centers, put the appointments on hold for those 75 and over awaiting their 2nd shot and it's virtually impossible for non essential 65 and overs to get a shot now unless you wait for like 2 days on the phone trying to make an appointment, are rich or know somebody on the inside.

Now my mother is getting increasingly frustrated because she thought her vaccination was within reach and her anxiety is growing because of this fear mongering being put out about the new strain and how much more contagious it is. I know it's the reality but it's always doomsday garbage when you turn on the news and my mother, among many others, are sick of being scared. FTR, I'm not particularly worried because I take all the precautions but my mother who has other health issues as is and is anxious even in the best of times is going through a rough time and it's a helpless feeling not being able to help her. Mind boggling that we live in a world like this now and when we have this "miracle" vaccine (s), they can't even be distributed properly even in a place like New York City which has all the resources to get it done.

Anyway, sorry for the rant and the run on sentence in the first paragraph but I just had a long talk with my mother about it trying to calm her down and... well.... this just sucks.

 

[bellagiobob]

I can't read any of these G & M articles without a subscription.

If you're having issues, trying opening the link in private/incognito mode on your browser.

 

[Yukon Joe]

FTR, the Vaccine distribution here in New York (of all places) is garbage so certain parts of the U.S. shouldn't be commended for their vaccine efforts.

Dude, I'm sure that sucks for you and your mom, but most posers here are from Edmonton, Alberta. Vaccinations stopped entirely last week when our supplies ran out. New York State 10.92 doses have been administered per 100 people. In Alberta only 2.5 doses per 100 people have been administered.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Dude, I'm sure that sucks for you and your mom, but most posers here are from Edmonton, Alberta. Vaccinations stopped entirely last week when our supplies ran out. New York State 10.92 doses have been administered per 100 people. In Alberta only 2.5 doses per 100 people have been administered.

Dude,

Only Nucks fans are posers..

Posing as fans..

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

How Ottawa utterly botched Canada's COVID vaccine acquisition | National Post

 

[CupofOil]

Dude, I'm sure that sucks for you and your mom, but most posers here are from Edmonton, Alberta. Vaccinations stopped entirely last week when our supplies ran out. New York State 10.92 doses have been administered per 100 people. In Alberta only 2.5 doses per 100 people have been administered.

Did I say it didn't suck for you guys?

I'm just speaking from my experience, I'm not making comparisons.

 

[bellagiobob]

Did I say it didn't suck for you guys?

I'm just speaking from my experience, I'm not making comparisons.

We appreciate your perspective Cuppy. Good to know what's happening outside of our little bubble.

 

[bellagiobob]

I figured hospitalization numbers would be close to the 450 level before we even got to the initial restriction phase on Feb 8. Based on the 4.4% hospitalization rate, and taking the lag into consideration, should be down to around 300-325 within another 10 days, as long as daily case numbers remain similar.

 

[bellagiobob]

How Ottawa utterly botched Canada's COVID vaccine acquisition | National Post

Had a comment typed out, but prefer to retain my posting privileges.

 

[oilers'72]

As a person who has strong ties to both Canada and the US, it's disappointing to see the new administration continue the "America First" policy for vaccines at the expense of its closest ally, which (as the article highlights) hamstrung Canada's vaccine supply efforts at the end of 2020. That being said, I have witnessed first hand how well the "America First" policy plays down here, even among moderates and swing voters, so I can understand why they are continuing it on a hot button topic because unfortunately it's always an election cycle down here.

It will take a few years, but it appears one result of this pandemic will be that Canada's ability to manufacture vaccines domestically will be restored. Canada used to have a domestic vaccine manufacturing capacity; however, it was inefficient (even for the '80s) and required modernization. The Mulroney government began the process of selling off the assets rather than upgrading them. The dismantling of the domestic capabilities continued with subsequent administrations (both Liberal and PC) - because it was easy and saved money in the short-term? The H1N1 scare in 2009 should have caused an immediate reassessment by the Harper government about whether Canada should be dependent upon external entities for vaccine manufacturing; they did nothing substantial. Nonetheless, just because Harper dropped the ball doesn't absolve Trudeau from not correcting an obvious error over the 5 years he was in office prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.

I agree with you for the most part.

The 2009 Swine Flu epidemic may not have been an oppourtunity for vaccine development or even PPE production to be done here, though. The first cases in the US were found in mid-April 2009. By early October, vaccines were being distributed. In the end, the US ordered 229M doses. But only 91 million were administered, with much of the rest put into storage, sent to other countries and 71M destroyed.

In Canada, 6.6M doses. But only 428 people died.

As for PPE, I don't recall anyone wearing masks, using sanitizers to any great extent and no social distancing. No national or state lockdowns. Only some counties and school districts doing lockdowns of schools. Anyone diagnosed with a serious bout was put into an oxygen tent. I recall that things were so lax that a Detroit player got sick during a game and was taken to hospital (he recovered). But the rink wasn't cleared, there was no mass quarantine and the game went on.

 

[Skar]

As a person who has strong ties to both Canada and the US, it's disappointing to see the new administration continue the "America First" policy for vaccines at the expense of its closest ally, which (as the article highlights) hamstrung Canada's vaccine supply efforts at the end of 2020. That being said, I have witnessed first hand how well the "America First" policy plays down here, even among moderates and swing voters, so I can understand why they are continuing it on a hot button topic because unfortunately it's always an election cycle down here.

It will take a few years, but it appears one result of this pandemic will be that Canada's ability to manufacture vaccines domestically will be restored. Canada used to have a domestic vaccine manufacturing capacity; however, it was inefficient (even for the '80s) and required modernization. The Mulroney government began the process of selling off the assets rather than upgrading them. The dismantling of the domestic capabilities continued with subsequent administrations (both Liberal and PC) - because it was easy and saved money in the short-term? The H1N1 scare in 2009 should have caused an immediate reassessment by the Harper government about whether Canada should be dependent upon external entities for vaccine manufacturing; they did nothing substantial. Nonetheless, just because Harper dropped the ball doesn't absolve Trudeau from not correcting an obvious error over the 5 years he was in office prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Good post Frank. There are so many other instances as well where both liberal and conservative governments knee-cap something to cut costs in the short term, only for it to end up costing exponentially more to replace or upgrade anyways.

It makes sense though, how could they have convinced the population to support domestic vaccine manufacturing when we haven't had an issue like this for over a century.

 

[rboomercat90]

My cat just started talking again. What does the above even mean?

I can’t imagine how disappointed you are in your cat right now.

 

[harpoon]

Canada apologises after diplomat creates 'Wuhan' T-shirt using Wu-Tang Clan's symbol

Canada ‘apologizes’. Of course they did ...

 

[Snipes45]

Have you guys heard of people having really messed up tastes and smells well after getting Covid? People's coffee tasting like gasoline, wine tasting or smelling like gasoline, etc. Things people love now being detested. Covid messes with that stuff after as well. Can be like that for up to 6 months. That must suckk

 

[oilers'72]

I've read of people losing their sense of taste and smell during and covid. But there are also other conditions that cause the same thing, though maybe or maybe not the same duration.

Evolution of Loss of Smell or Taste in COVID-19

Impaired Taste: Diagnosis, Causes, and Treatments

 

[Oilhawks]

Canada apologises after diplomat creates 'Wuhan' T-shirt using Wu-Tang Clan's symbol

Canada ‘apologizes’. Of course they did ...

When dealing with the CCP, it's best to 'protect ya neck'

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Good post Frank. There are so many other instances as well where both liberal and conservative governments knee-cap something to cut costs in the short term, only for it to end up costing exponentially more to replace or upgrade anyways.

It makes sense though, how could they have convinced the population to support domestic vaccine manufacturing when we haven't had an issue like this for over a century.

Have they not been paying attention to SARS and MERS? We have had a couple of really bad influenza's in the last 100 years as well. Some would look at it like "well we haven't had one forever so we can get away with it". For me it's (we're on borrowed time and this shit could hit at any time and we need to be prepared).

The problem is that our governments piss away money on a lot of foolish crap instead of important things. If anyone thinks that no country is out there working on biological weapons they are likely mistaken. Imagine if something with a 50% mortality rate was modified and unleashed? Then we react to it like this and have all of our PPE shipped to China ahead of time? Yeah, not pretty.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Canada apologises after diplomat creates 'Wuhan' T-shirt using Wu-Tang Clan's symbol

Canada ‘apologizes’. Of course they did ...

I guess they really wouldn't like this then.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Kids in Alberta can practice team sports under first phase of reopening beginning Monday | Edmonton Journal

 

[Stoneman89]

Have you guys heard of people having really messed up tastes and smells well after getting Covid? People's coffee tasting like gasoline, wine tasting or smelling like gasoline, etc. Things people love now being detested. Covid messes with that stuff after as well. Can be like that for up to 6 months. That must suckk

My ex wife's cooking tasted like burned shit. I imagine it still does.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

My ex wife's cooking tasted like burned shit. I imagine it still does.

Better than raw shit I guess?

 

[Snipes45]

I was asking about that taste/smell thing because I know of 2 people who had tis happen to them 2/3 months after getting Covid and not having any symptoms while having Covid.

It's basically some sort of nerve damage done from Covid. People can get it after other infections too. Makes a lot of food revolting to smell, never mind eat.

 

[Stoneman89]

I guess they really wouldn't like this then.

And they can be prepared in many variant flavours ! And....no nasty aftertaste!

 

[Stoneman89]

Better than raw shit I guess?

So much better.

 

[Stoneman89]

Canada apologises after diplomat creates 'Wuhan' T-shirt using Wu-Tang Clan's symbol

Canada ‘apologizes’. Of course they did ...

Waiting for Canada to also apologize for having 2 of their innocent citizens take up space in a Chinese prison...