Value of: Connor Murphy

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Murphy seems to be on his way out in Chicago. He's been the Hawks most reliable defender the last 2 seasons. What could he fetch in a trade?

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[Mrfenn92]

Why would he be on his way out?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

He does? he's like the least likely to be shopped defense on the team (outside of Boqvist)

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Why would he be on his way out?

Expansion draft(they can only protect Zadorov or Murphy) +only 2 years left+ Hawks logjam at RD.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Start of the offseason I'd have loved to put a package together for him in Toronto, but now we just don't have the space.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Start of the offseason I'd have loved to put a package together for him in Toronto, but now we just don't have the space.

He definitely would have been a good target for the Leafs. Even if we had the cap space, it would be tough to fit him in beyond this season with Hyman needing to be re-signed as well as Dermott and a potential Rielly extension. The only trade scenario right now that may make sense would be something around Kerfoot and Dermott for Murphy.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

He definitely would have been a good target for the Leafs. Even if we had the cap space, it would be tough to fit him in beyond this season with Hyman needing to be re-signed as well as Dermott and a potential Rielly extension. The only trade scenario right now that may make sense would be something around Kerfoot and Dermott for Murphy.

At the start of the offseason if the Leafs would have offered Liljegren and Johnsson I think that would have gotten it done.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He'd be perfect for the Leafs now if they could fit him in.

Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Murphy would be a complete top 4

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

He'd be perfect for the Leafs now if they could fit him in.

Rielly Brodie

Muzzin Murphy would be a complete top 4

I started a thread because I thought the Leafs were the best fit a couple months ago after the Hawks traded for Zadorov but myself and other Leafs fans were unable to come to an agreement on a deal.

 

[elitepete]

What are the Hawks needs? Canucks would have interest.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I started a thread because I thought the Leafs were the best fit a couple months ago after the Hawks traded for Zadorov but myself and other Leafs fans were unable to come to an agreement on a deal.

I think you'd have to take some salary back either in the form of Kerfoot or Holl

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What are the Hawks needs? Canucks would have interest.

A young goalie and draft picks.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Toronto would have been all over this prior to signing Brodie. He could still be a fit but as others have mentioned a salary , likely Kerfoot would need to be involved or some sort of retention applied. Like the player but need isn't as large as it once was.

 

[Blaine8797]

Murphy seems to be on his way out in Chicago. He's been the Hawks most reliable defender the last 2 seasons. What could he fetch in a trade?

Flyers should be all over this if he becomes available, the only problem is expansion

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Ever time I’ve watched him he’s looked very solid. Did he really average 4 minutes of power play time with no power play points last season? Or was that a typo

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

A young goalie and draft picks.

I'd argue the historical value for a top 4 D in a trade is also a need for the Hawks in a younger top six winger

besides debrincat and Kubalik, the org is not very deep at high end wing prospects. I think it was evident by their selection of reichel this year in the first round and we can be pinning all our future top six wing hopes on one german prospect that looks to be a few years away


sure we can always move centers over but it would be nice to get some high ceiling wingers natural to their position in the pipeline

 

[SabbathBloodySabbath]

Ever time I’ve watched him he’s looked very solid. Did he really average 4 minutes of power play time with no power play points last season? Or was that a typo

He had four minutes of PP time for the season, not per game.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

He had four minutes of PP time for the season, not per game.

Okay that makes sense! Good player I’m sure if he had that much power play time he would do a lot better then 0 points lol

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I'd argue the historical value for a top 4 D in a trade is also a need for the Hawks in a younger top six winger

besides debrincat and Kubalik, the org is not very deep at high end wing prospects. I think it was evident by their selection of reichel this year in the first round and we can be pinning all our future top six wing hopes on one german prospect that looks to be a few years away


sure we can always move centers over but it would be nice to get some high ceiling wingers natural to their position in the pipeline

It would, but they need someone that is not NHL ready and is 2-3 years away.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

It would, but they need someone that is not NHL ready and is a 2-3 years away.

I don't know who someone like that would be in the Toronto or vancouver pipeline.

podkozlin is the only one I'm familiar with and murphy isn't enough to land him and vancouver isn't moving him regardless, he fits their timeline to arrive when they're team should start peaking

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I don't know who someone like that would be in the Toronto or vancouver pipeline.

podkozlin is the only one I'm familiar with and murphy isn't enough to land him and vancouver isn't moving him regardless, he fits their timeline to arrive when they're team should start peaking

Amirov would be an option but idk if the Leafs would move him and it sounded in the draft videos that the Hawks weren't particularly high on him.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Amirov would be an option but idk if the Leafs would move him and it sounded in the draft videos that the Hawks weren't particularly high on him.

Seems doubtful. Very early but he's trending well. He doesn't get a 1st in return during this climate imo. A guy like Abramov or Hallander is more the prospect calibre id expect. But it's all moot unless Leafs can move some salary (Kerfoot most likely).

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Seems doubtful. Very early but he's trending well. He doesn't get a 1st in return during this climate imo. A guy like Abramov or Hallander is more the prospect calibre id expect. But it's all moot unless Leafs can move some salary (Kerfoot most likely).

huh? murphy wouldn't return a 1st in this climate?

he's a no.3 defensive dman with a physical shutdown style under contract with term remaining in a flat cap world with a $3.85 mil cap hit in his 20s still

that's the type of player GMs would lineup to throw a 1st or similar caliber prospect at in a trade

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

huh? murphy wouldn't return a 1st in this climate?

he's a no.3 defensive dman with a physical shutdown style under contract with term remaining in a flat cap world with a $3.85 mil cap hit in his 20s still

that's the type of player GMs would lineup to throw a 1st or similar caliber prospect at in a trade

Not when Toews and Schmidt get dealt for peanuts , and several good depth options remain unsigned. His cap is a bit better than I thought, but Amirov is a non starter. Prior to Brodie signing maybe they'd have placed a higher priority on a RD , but the need is far less now. Id love to have him but I wouldn't personally deal Amirov. I think he returns a good prospect (but not blue chip) and a decent 2/3 pic. Would be alot of moving parts to enable it to happen when you consider cap implications additionally.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Not when Toews and Schmidt get dealt for peanuts , and several good depth options remain unsigned. His cap is a bit better than I thought, but Amirov is a non starter. Prior to Brodie signing maybe they'd have placed a higher priority on a RD , but the need is far less now. Id love to have him but I wouldn't personally deal Amirov. I think he returns a good prospect (but not blue chip) and a decent 2/3 pic. Would be alot of moving parts to enable it to happen when you consider cap implications additionally.

If the hawks were to deal him it would’ve been at the draft. A trade for him between the hawks and leafs now makes no sense and probably doesn’t make any sense going forward.
Hawks have no need to trade him for peanuts no cap issues unlike the other teams.