Speculation: Combined Contract value of Q. Hughes and E. Pettersson in 2021?

[Merrrlin]

How much will their next deals be combined?

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[Patagonia]

EP is more likely to sign a reasonable deal, QHughes will be more difficult and expect a huge ask.

 

[nickdawg95]

EP should get 8-10 hughes maybe 7-9 ?

 

[Merrrlin]

EP is more likely to sign a reasonable deal, QHughes will be more difficult and expect a huge ask.

What's a reasonable deal, in your mind, for EP?

 

[Merrrlin]

EP should get 8-10 hughes maybe 7-9 ?

8 - 10 on what term?

8 would barely put him above Boeser's bridge, so I imagine if he's getting 8m it's a bridge.

 

[themelkman]

EP should be getting like 10 imo. If Marner can get it he can too

 

[Hockeyholic]

You don't sign Quinn Hughes immediately. Wait it out and see how he does next year.

E.P. you lock up at 8 years. 12 million per season.

 

[nickdawg95]

8 - 10 on what term?

8 would barely put him above Boeser's bridge, so I imagine if he's getting 8m it's a bridge.

9-10 m x 8 years
Hughes is a wild card. think it will depend on what Makar heiskanen dahlin get to set the market. or maybe he sets the market who know i'll guess 7.5m x 6

 

[Merrrlin]

9-10 m x 8 years
Hughes is a wild card. think it will depend on what Makar heiskanen dahlin get to set the market. or maybe he sets the market who know i'll guess 7.5m x 6

I don't think he takes 10x8, but who am I to guess? If he does, that's an incredible deal in the current RFA empowerment climate.

I could see 12x8, or 10.5x6 though.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I don't think he takes 10x8, but who am I to guess? If he does, that's an incredible deal in the current RFA empowerment climate.

I could see 12x8, or 10.5x6 though.

The climate now is certainty about a flat cap for the next few seasons. Far different environment than an expectation of cap increases.

 

[Merrrlin]

The climate now is certainty about a flat cap for the next few seasons. Far different environment than an expectation of cap increases.

I guess I am taking into account that by the time they sign (2 offseasons down the road), we will be back on track and the cap will be recovering. Obviously it's a much different and much more dire situation if that doesn't happen.

EP should be getting like 10 imo. If Marner can get it he can too

If he gets less than 10 on a longer deal, he should fire his agent. If he gets 10 but Benning only locks him up for a few years, Benning should be fired.

Just sign him and be done with the 1C position for an entire era of Canucks hockey.

 

[780il]

19m combined.

EP at 10.5
Hughes at 8.5

Could see both guys asking for more but ultimately I think that’s what they settle at.

 

[Rowlet]

Kinda scary seeing such big numbers up close. The other Canucks kids have all signed bridge deals, Boeser and Horvat both signed $6m bridge deals, wonder if EP and QuHu will do the same to get the same kind of winning team that their previous rookie brothers did.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Don't see Pettersson taking less than Rantanen's deal. I'd assume closer to 10.5 per over 8 years unless he has a really rough season in 2020-21.

Hughes is a bit tougher to predict. If he replicates the results of his rookie season I'd guess somewhere around 8 per.

 

[blinkman360]

Long term - EP @ 10, QH @ 7

...and yes I pulled those out of my hiny.

 

[Merrrlin]

Don't see Pettersson taking less than Rantanen's deal. I'd assume closer to 10.5 per over 8 years unless he has a really rough season in 2020-21.

Hughes is a bit tougher to predict. If he replicates the results of his rookie season I'd guess somewhere around 8 per.

Those would be bargain deals unless COVID crushes another season's revenues.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

EP - $8.5 to 9.5 mil x 6-7 years
QH - $8.5 to 9.5 mil x 6-7 years

Takes them both to 27-28 years old no?
Doubt they take 8 years, more and more players/agents seem to want deals that get them to free agency under 30 to max on out on another 7-8 year deal after that.
Assuming they both have similar or better years next season.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Those would be bargain deals unless COVID crushes another season's revenues.

Paying a center coming off their ELC eight figures is not a bargain deal.

Unlikely 2021-22 sees a drastic rise in the cap. Probably a modest 3 or 4 million.

 

[Merrrlin]

Paying a center coming off their ELC eight figures is not a bargain deal.

Unlikely 2021-22 sees a drastic rise in the cap. Probably a modest 3 or 4 million.

It's a bargain if he's worth more than that. I could see 10 if it's 6 years.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Paying a center coming off their ELC eight figures is not a bargain deal.

Unlikely 2021-22 sees a drastic rise in the cap. Probably a modest 3 or 4 million.

Guaranteed it sees no rise in the cap. The cap is frozen at its current level for 3 seasons. (I assume this was done partially as a favor to the players--because 'rona HRR isn't supporting the current cap level--and partially to save everyone else the headache of figuring out how to allow teams to become cap compliant with a reduced salary cap.)

 

[Djp]

They will wait to sign them to see what happens with Covid and revenue. They could do bridges thrn long ones.

If both are signing 7+ yrs look st $17M.

 

[Bounces R Way]

It's a bargain if he's worth more than that. I could see 10 if it's 6 years.

So the only way it could be a bargain is if he's better than McDavid? Are there any players with a 8 figure cap hit that you could realistically view as a bargain?

Guaranteed it sees no rise in the cap. The cap is frozen at its current level for 3 seasons. (I assume this was done partially as a favor to the players--because 'rona HRR isn't supporting the current cap level--and partially to save everyone else the headache of figuring out how to allow teams to become cap compliant with a reduced salary cap.)

I hadn't realized they've frozen it for three years, I thought it was just next season. Really makes any 7-8 year deals seem unlikely.

 

[Mickey Marner]

17-18 for non-bridge deals. Voted 17.

 

[Meeqs]

Hughes you would expect between 6.75-8.5 AAV on a long term deal given the precedents and how much he is able to reset the market.

If Van is able to get EP for under 10 AAV they should take it and run as I feel that will be unlikely, long term as well.

They could be looking at lower ends should the deal carry less term and thus less UFA years but Van would be unwise to do so

 

[Meeqs]

Guaranteed it sees no rise in the cap. The cap is frozen at its current level for 3 seasons. (I assume this was done partially as a favor to the players--because 'rona HRR isn't supporting the current cap level--and partially to save everyone else the headache of figuring out how to allow teams to become cap compliant with a reduced salary cap.)

Do we know if it is actually 3 seasons or just until "HRR returns to X levels" and 3 years was the estimate