Proposal: COL / ANA / FLA

[Richard88]

An Anaheim fan I spoke to suggested the following trade. Curious to hear some more thoughts on this proposal.

Basically, Anaheim sends Rakell to Colorado for Zadorov, Helleson and COL 2020 1st; and then Anaheim turns around and sends Zadorov on to Florida for MacKenzie Weegar and a 3rd/4th.



Anaheim acquires: Weegar, Helleson, COL 2020 1st, FLA 2020 3rd/4th
Anaheim trades: Rakell



Colorado acquires: Rakell
Colorado trades: Zadorov, Helleson, and COL 2020 1st



Florida acquires: Zadorov
Florida trades: Weegar, 2020 FLA 3rd/4th

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[Gurglesons]

An Anaheim fan I spoke to suggested the following trade. Curious to hear some more thoughts on this proposal.

Basically, Anaheim sends Rakell to Colorado for Zadorov, Helleson and COL 2020 1st; and then Anaheim turns around and sends Zadorov on to Florida for MacKenzie Weegar and a 3rd/4th.



Anaheim acquires: Weegar, Helleson, COL 2020 1st, FLA 2020 3rd/4th
Anaheim trades: Rakell



Colorado acquires: Rakell
Colorado trades: Zadorov, Helleson, and COL 2020 1st



Florida acquires: Zadorov
Florida trades: Weegar, 2020 FLA 3rd/4th

Why is Florida trading a seemingly prospective top four D on a light contract for cap when they are supposedly trying to cut cash?

I’m sure Colorado could just do a 1st, prospect and Zadorov to Anaheim tbh.

1st, Timmins, Zadorov actually seems right up Murray’s alley tbh.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Anaheim gets bent over hard. I mean hhhaaaaard!

 

[Mrfenn92]

Anaheim and Florida say no.

 

[Gurglesons]

Anaheim gets bent over hard. I mean hhhaaaaard,!

I’d argue Florida is taking it harder tbh.

 

[Richard88]

Why is Florida trading a seemingly prospective top four D on a light contract for cap when they are supposedly trying to cut cash?

I’m sure Colorado could just do a 1st, prospect and Zadorov to Anaheim tbh.

1st, Timmins, Zadorov actually seems right up Murray’s alley tbh.

I think 1st + Timmins would get it done. Seen plenty of Anaheim fans agree to that. Colorado obviously prefer to keep Timmins and use other pieces though.

What do you think Weegar's next contract will be? Zadorov's QO is $3.2m.

 

[Laus723]

Not a chance. Weegar is terribly undervalued here for one, and he should be locked up long term.
Would love Zadarov, but not for Weegar. Matheson or Stralman are up for grabs, though.

Weegar is a fan favorite who plays solid defense, can score, and stands up for his teammates.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I’d argue Florida is taking it harder tbh.

The Florida deal is not bad. Anaheim fans are gonna torch this.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think 1st + Timmins would get it done. Seen plenty of Anaheim fans agree to that. Colorado obviously prefer to keep Timmins and use other pieces though.

What do you think Weegar's next contract will be? Zadorov's QO is $3.2m.

I think if ANA moves Rakell for Col’s 1st they are getting Byram back. Rakell is going to be priceless with a flat cap and that contract tbh.

 

[Gurglesons]

The Florida deal is not bad. Anaheim fans are gonna torch this.

Actually. It is horrible. Florida gets a LD for their best RD who has basically outproduced Zadorov and plays a similar game.

 

[Richard88]

I think if ANA moves Rakell for Col’s 1st they are getting Bryam back. Rakell is going to be priceless with a flat cap and that contract tbh.

Byram is the No.1 prospect not yet in the NHL according to The Hockey News. He's not going anywhere. Besides, Anaheim need RHD more than LHD.

 

[Gurglesons]

Byram is the No.1 prospect not yet in the NHL according to The Hockey News. He's not going anywhere. Besides, Anaheim need RHD more than LHD.

Rakell isn’t going for a late 1st and a D who potentially is a bust in Timmins.

As I said, with a flat cap Rakell will be priceless.

 

[Richard88]

Actually. It is horrible. Florida gets a LD for their best RD who has basically outproduced Zadorov and plays a similar game.

Is Weegar really their best RHD? Ekblad and Stålman both saw more ice-time this season.

 

[Laus723]

Is Weegar really their best RHD? Ekblad and Stålman both saw more ice-time this season.

Weegar was also injured for a good portion of the year. He’s #2 behind Ekblad.

 

[Gurglesons]

Is Weegar really their best RHD? Ekblad and Stålman both saw more ice-time this season.

I think Florida has used Weegar with Ekblad this season on the left side so I’m mistaken.

 

[Richard88]

Weegar was also injured for a good portion of the year. He’s #2 behind Ekblad.

Looks like I may have underestimated Weegar.

Thanks to you and everyone else who's commenting. I was hoping to get some more insights into Florida's defensive situation and so I appreciate the comments.

 

[Laus723]

Looks like I may have underestimated Weegar.

Thanks to you and everyone else who's commenting. I was hoping to get some more insights into Florida's defensive situation and so I appreciate the comments.

you’re welcome. Weegar was also a 7th round pick, the last one if I remember correctly (may be wrong). He’s loved because of that, and because he just plays the game well and is responsible. With Matheson being a first rounder and floundering, it kind of endears is more to Weegar.

the D needs work for sure, but guys like Matheson and Stralman would be gone first imo. Yandle may also be available, but I really don’t think so.

 

[Richard88]

you’re welcome. Weegar was also a 7th round pick, the last one if I remember correctly (may be wrong). He’s loved because of that, and because he just plays the game well and is responsible. With Matheson being a first rounder and floundering, it kind of endears is more to Weegar.

the D needs work for sure, but guys like Matheson and Stralman would be gone first imo. Yandle may also be available, but I really don’t think so.

Are Florida open to trading for Zadorov in general, perhaps for futures? Seems like they can use a physical LHD, and fwiw Zadorov already has a house in Miami.

Btw, if Florida owners want to cut cash and there is a CBO, do you think they'd be open to trading Stralman to Colorado for a buyout, in exchange for some decent picks? His remaining salary is $9m, and if the CBO is like last time (60% value) then Colorado would pay ~$6m spread over 4 years. That might be worth it for Colorado depending on the pick(s) involved.

 

[Laus723]

Are Florida open to trading for Zadorov in general, perhaps for futures? Seems like they can use a physical LHD, and fwiw Zadorov already has a house in Miami.

Btw, if Florida owners want to cut cash and there is a CBO, do you think they'd be open to trading Stralman to Colorado for a buyout, in exchange for some decent picks? His remaining salary is $9m, and if the CBO is like last time (60% value) then Colorado would pay ~$6m spread over 4 years. That might be worth it for Colorado depending on the pick(s) involved.

that’s just an unsubstantiated rumor. And at Luongo’s jersey retirement ceremony, the owner didn’t sound at all like someone who’s looking to cut salary.

I’d love to have Zadarov, they may be open to moving Stralman, but not sure.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I think we have a found a similar player in Zadorov with Stillman. They both hit with reckless abandon.

Weegar and Ekblad was our top line duo for a good portion of the year and they clicked for the most part. Both were pacing career years.

Would have been all over Zadorov at deadline last year but things change in a years time.

No thanks OP. Rather keep Weegar who we are familiar with.

 

[Richard88]

that’s just an unsubstantiated rumor. And at Luongo’s jersey retirement ceremony, the owner didn’t sound at all like someone who’s looking to cut salary.

I’d love to have Zadarov, they may be open to moving Stralman, but not sure.

How about one of these proposals?

• Zadorov for 2nd + 3rd (FLA have COL 2020 3rd that they can send back)

• Zadorov and Kamenev for 2 2nds

• Zadorov for 3rd + Kolyachonok

Kamenev has legitimate 3C upside but has just struggled to establish himself so far due to fluke injuries (like a broken wrist) as well as being stuck behind Colorado's strong C depth. I figure that if given that opportunity he can be a low-key addition to replace Haula as your 3C going forwards. Probably worth a 3rd or 4th on his own.

 

[Laus723]

How about one of these proposals?

• Zadorov for 2nd + 3rd (FLA have COL 2020 3rd that they can send back)

• Zadorov and Kamenev for 2 2nds

• Zadorov for 3rd + Kolyachonok

Kamenev has legitimate 3C upside but has just struggled to establish himself so far due to fluke injuries (like a broken wrist) as well as being stuck behind Colorado's strong C depth. I figure that if given that opportunity he can be a low-key addition to replace Haula as your 3C going forwards. Probably worth a 3rd or 4th on his own.

they think a lot of Kolyachanook, and we’re loaded down with D-men. Would need to move one or two. Perhaps one of those trades would work, they’d need to move the other guy(s) in a different trade.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

I think Florida has used Weegar with Ekblad this season on the left side so I’m mistaken.

They did for stretches. They made a good pairing.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I'd rather have Weegar than Zadorov. Also think COL overpays for Rakell.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Colorado isn’t using a 1st on Rakell. Let alone add other valuable pieces to it.

If Colorado wants to add a 2nd line winger they’ll be able to do it for less than a 1st rounder when you consider how much cap space they have and how panicked other teams will be to shed salary.