Confirmed with Link: Clowe to NYR for Picks - 2nd, 3rd and Conditional 2014 2nd (Could Turn to 5th)

[OrrNumber4]

I don't buy this sort of ideal. If there's a deal to be made that makes sense for both teams, it shouldn't matter if that team is in your division or not. This is Ryane Clowe, not Sidney Crosby.

Not in the same division, but Kiprusoff burned the Sharks, Ehrhoff kind of burned the Sharks...it makes some kind of sense...

I mean, it looks like the trade was a low 1st vs a second, what was essentially a second, and a chance at a third second. That isn't a bad trade-off.

Plus, DW gave the NTC and got something back in return. That has to be taken into account.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Pavelski looks so adorable talking tough.

 

[SharksAddict]

The only thing to gleam from this IMO is that Clowe didn't want to go to Vancouver, which shouldn't shock anyone. To me its evidence how strong the dislike is between the two teams. Not your typical fan driven rivalry.

 

[hohosaregood]

I wonder who we would have picked beyond Mueller :-/

I think that since we picked Boudreau in the second round, I have to believe that DW had Zykov firmly in his crosshairs.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

So what's the lesson here? Don't be handing out NTC like you're giving away halloween candy...

And then you won't get good deals from guys you want to keep long term.

 

[ScottyDont]

Just to nit-pick, but Theodore is nothing at all like Mueller (I like him better, actually...). Theodore is to Burns as Mueller is to Vlasic.

yyyyeah, I checked out each players profile and Theodore sounds like he has a better offense upside. Don't we need that type of defenseman to replace Boyle more than another Vlasic?

 

[hockeyball]

yyyyeah, I checked out each players profile and Theodore sounds like he has a better offense upside. Don't we need that type of defenseman to replace Boyle more another Vlasic?

Mueller isn't Vlasic...

I'm going to love it when this kid pans out like Coyle and Hertl did and everyone is acting like it was a miracle. Just a few months ago everyone around here was hoping Hertl would get 10 goals and 30 points this season

 

[ScottyDont]

Well, even if he did become another Vlasic, I think no one would be overly disappointed, since Vlasic is Mr. Studly these days.

Everything that I've read about Mueller is that the offense isn't coming as smoothly as originally thought. Do you know more then that?

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Mueller isn't Vlasic...

I'm going to love it when this kid pans out like Coyle and Hertl did and everyone is acting like it was a miracle. Just a few months ago everyone around here was hoping Hertl would get 10 goals and 30 points this season

Exactly why I try and reserve any kind of judgement when it comes to projecting kids who can't even grow facial hair. Mueller could be Vlasic type or Suter type or he may be Christoph Schupert...you never know.

 

[Led Zappa]

Exactly why I try and reserve any kind of judgement when it comes to projecting kids who can't even grow facial hair. Mueller could be Vlasic type or Suter type or he may be Christoph Schupert...you never know.

He's going to be Pronger lite type

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He's going to be Pronger lite type

Which would be incredible.

 

[Mafoofoo]

Mueller isn't Vlasic...

I'm going to love it when this kid pans out like Coyle and Hertl did and everyone is acting like it was a miracle. Just a few months ago everyone around here was hoping Hertl would get 10 goals and 30 points this season

Low expectations leads to more shock and happiness. Like if all of us were expecting Hertl to drop 40 goals in his first season his current pace wouldn't be as exciting as it is now.

He's going to be Pronger lite type

Hopefully not too lite.

 

[Oppa]

I predicted Hertl to get 60 pts

Someone's gonna owe me a beer or a bowl of pho or something

 

[do0glas]

In the end DW got a good deal for an aging/injured player with a ntc. I agree with Orr, that should be taken into account. Can you blame clowe for not wanting to go there? I doubt he had much love for them.

Whether or not the picks involved or traded pan out shouldn't have any affect on the original value of the trade.

I know some disagree with that point, but getting draft picks and using then effectively should be graded separately.

 

[Led Zappa]

Low expectations leads to more shock and happiness. Like if all of us were expecting Hertl to drop 40 goals in his first season his current pace wouldn't be as exciting as it is now.



Hopefully not too lite.

Seriously though, the little I've seen him, his gait reminds me of Pronger. The more he fills out the closer he'll get. If he doesn't fill out as much he'll be more mobile, which isn't bad either. Of course this is all wild conjecture, but it's fun

 

[magic school bus]

And then you won't get good deals from guys you want to keep long term.

Giving out no-trade clauses doesn't mean you're getting a good deal. cc: Calgary

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Giving out no-trade clauses doesn't mean you're getting a good deal. cc: Calgary

You think Pavelski or Couture sign the deals they did without any kind movement clause? I sure don't. It doesn't matter since Clowe waived for New York and wouldn't have for Vancouver.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I predicted Hertl to get 60 pts

Someone's gonna owe me a beer or a bowl of pho or something

If Hertl gets 60 points that means he would have to get 50 goals

 

[Juxtaposer]

Mueller isn't Vlasic...

I'm going to love it when this kid pans out like Coyle and Hertl did and everyone is acting like it was a miracle. Just a few months ago everyone around here was hoping Hertl would get 10 goals and 30 points this season

If Mueller becomes another Vlasic, we should rejoice. If you can pick a #2 defensive stud in at #18 overall, you've done a brilliant job.

Besides, I'm only taking stylistically. Mueller is often compared to Vlasic, and to me watching Theodore he looks a lot like Burns (as a D).

 

[hockfan1991]

If Mueller becomes another Vlasic, we should rejoice. If you can pick a #2 defensive stud in at #18 overall, you've done a brilliant job.

Besides, I'm only taking stylistically. Mueller is often compared to Vlasic, and to me watching Theodore he looks a lot like Burns (as a D).

Well they found that at almost twice that far in the draft in Vlasic. Time will tell mueller is obviously behind Vlasic at this point. Let's see where's he's at by the end of the year