yea... bull****
Replacing production isn't a 1:1
Matthews, Marner, Nylander can be fairly expected to have huge growth in years 3-4 of their careers
I never said it was one for one so you're arguing something nobody said and I really doubt you can expect Matthews, Marner, and Nylander to replace 36 goals with their improvements. And what kind of improvements do you honestly expect from these three when it comes to their goal totals. I can see Matthews due to his injury but what exactly do you expect Marner and Nylander to produce on the goal sheet more than their 20/22 goals they had this past year. I don't think they're going to be 30 goal scorers consistently. They don't play that way. Growth isn't linear and doesn't always and actually tends not to come in goal scoring. It comes in other areas of their game.
They'd definitely take a 3C over a top 6 winger... that's an absolute no brainer... as they are losing Bosak. Where as they have Marner, Nylander, Marleau, AND Hyman who are all better than, more cost effective, and out produce Boedker.
And those players can play in their top six if they so choose just like JVR put up 36 goals mostly on their 3rd line. Replacing those 36 goals from a depth area is going to be a lot harder than replacing Bozak. They could put either Marleau or Nylander in the pivot if they really wanted to depending on how Babcock would prefer to spread out the talent.
That's not a premise I've ever stated.
Yeah it is when you say it's subtracting from a much weaker area of the team and framing it like Gardiner is a contributor to that. You want to weasel out of that one go ahead but I'm not going to buy it because that would be BS.
Thier depth their is greater. It's not up for debate... they do not have an NHL 3rd or 4th line center under contract. They are losing the guy who led the team in faceoffs (Bozak).
Meanwhile, they have 5 wingers who play bigger roles/more minutes than Boedker does.... and they have a young player in Kapanen who will be a regular. To go along with Carl Grundstrom who just came over after a fantastic SHL playoff run with Frolunda, and was a difference make in the Marlies playoff run...
It actually is up for debate because both JVR and Bozak were on their 3rd line and are both looking to be gone. You could point to options on their team to play both those spots if you actually look at them. They do have an NHL 3rd or 4th line center under contract if they want to move guys who they had play on their wings into the center position like Marleau or Nylander both have played there before. You need six wingers on your top three lines and if they rely on Kapanen and Brown to play those minutes, they will regret it. Boedker is a better option and lol at Grundstrom coming into a top 9 spot next year.
Kettle Black
Not really since my positions aren't false assumptions or premises and I support my opinions with things other than pretending like Marleau leaving San Jose is even close (you never once actually defended this reach on your part, you just moved on because you knew you couldn't actually support that garbage) to JVR leaving the Leafs.
Believe me, I am fully aware that you made an off hand remark, and now our doing the cowboy dance trying to defend it.
Only because you decided to make it much more than what it was and missed the point of it entirely on purpose. That was yet another claim you made that you can't support. Instead of just conceding that point, you decided to distract and nitpick. Good for you but the only person dancing here is you as you continue to pretend like Boedker would be a cap dump and his value should tank as a result when that's not the truth of the matter at all.
One bad game has never impacted trade value. If there is an example, it's accompanied by one of the worst GMs in the league at the time.