I have a few reasons to think so. But i think the obvious ones are young college guy that understands the game is changing from when he played. I also think he had a hand in the Pirri signing. Its all just my opinion though.
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I have a few reasons to think so. But i think the obvious ones are young college guy that understands the game is changing from when he played. I also think he had a hand in the Pirri signing. Its all just my opinion though.
eco's bones
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Speaking of lawyers. Gary Bettman is a lawyer and what he knows about hockey AFAIC is **** all. Go up and down the management links of NHL teams and there are long hockey backgrounds and histories regarding just about everyone with maybe the exception of John Chayka.
The old school hockey mentalities have really been holding back Canadian teams lately...gotta change how you evaluate players and approach drafting, trades, and development once you have better tools to do so
KingDeathMetal
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NHL GMs and Assistant GMs don't need to be "advanced stats guys" per se, insofar as being people with analytic backgrounds ala Chaykha. You can hire people to do the hard analysis for you, it just has to be something you value as GM, and factor heavily into decision making. No different from the various "capologists" that teams hire. Like any executive, a GM will surround themselves with experts in all the important areas of analysis, whether that's player or cap analysis, and it's up to them to allot the proper value to the info they receive.
Take the example of two former players, now GMs: Steve Yzerman and Marc Bergevin. Do I think either guy can delve into statistical analysis the way Rob Vollman or some of the people on this forum can? No, probably not. But I know based on how Tampa conducts business that Yzerman is properly factoring such experts and the work they do, into his decision-making, whereas Bergevin receives a detailed statistical presentation on why trading Subban for Weber is a terrible idea, makes the trade anyway, and fires his analyst afterwards. Then you have Lou Lamoriello and Brendan Shanahan in Toronto, as old school as it gets, running a team that is very clearly prioritizing advanced statistical analysis.
So this whole notion about GMs needing to be non-players is bogus. It's an argument that I'm sure owners love because some of them are starting to replace expensive hockey people GMs with analytics guys because hey, analytics guys make presentations and generally work for peanuts, but in reality these people are better off being experts and advisers that are hired by GMs with experience navigating the hockey world at all levels, who have to do more than look at stats. There's talent relations, player evaluation, culture building, hiring and firing, deal-making, etc. GMs have to be good at everything, including the politicking that comes with any management level job.
Take the example of two former players, now GMs: Steve Yzerman and Marc Bergevin. Do I think either guy can delve into statistical analysis the way Rob Vollman or some of the people on this forum can? No, probably not. But I know based on how Tampa conducts business that Yzerman is properly factoring such experts and the work they do, into his decision-making, whereas Bergevin receives a detailed statistical presentation on why trading Subban for Weber is a terrible idea, makes the trade anyway, and fires his analyst afterwards. Then you have Lou Lamoriello and Brendan Shanahan in Toronto, as old school as it gets, running a team that is very clearly prioritizing advanced statistical analysis.
So this whole notion about GMs needing to be non-players is bogus. It's an argument that I'm sure owners love because some of them are starting to replace expensive hockey people GMs with analytics guys because hey, analytics guys make presentations and generally work for peanuts, but in reality these people are better off being experts and advisers that are hired by GMs with experience navigating the hockey world at all levels, who have to do more than look at stats. There's talent relations, player evaluation, culture building, hiring and firing, deal-making, etc. GMs have to be good at everything, including the politicking that comes with any management level job.
we didn't hire a former player to be gm. jeff gorton isn't a former player but he now has an assistant gm who is a very intelligent former player and help him gain perspective when needed. sounds like the best of both worlds to me
My thoughts exactly.
My other thought is that we have too many Boston guys in the organization.
Revel
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If he took an active part in making sure Buch came over this year and in signing Vesey, then this is well-deserved. Helping to keep us young and exciting in an era devoid of early draft picks is no easy task. Thanks Drury!
Irishguy42
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I figured. I just wanted to cover all bases.
I, thankfully, have been blocked by him. And since then, my #hockeytwitter has been a better experience.
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Didn't we buy out this clown NOT to Play ? Now we put him back on the payroll ? Big Picture it doesnt matter. But I dislike Chris Drury's face.
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People honestly believe Callahan was a better leader and captain than Drury haha. I don't get the hate. They base their opinion on his play on the ice. That's it.
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My thoughts exactly.
My other thought is that we have too many Boston guys in the organization.
You know it drives them crazy that "their" guys come to the Dark side and do bettah than they would in Southie.
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emodwarf
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Thanks for making me bust out laughing on the train. At least this time I had a good reason to look like a weirdo in public.
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My thoughts exactly.
My other thought is that we have too many Boston guys in the organization.
I'd much rather see a bunch of younger Bostonians in charge than old Canadians. The landscape of the sport is changing dramatically away from Canada right now. Not to say anything about Canadians or their capabilities, mostly it's good to see younger faces and from places where hockey has both a long tradition and is also experiencing some real growth and activity. The NCAA, USHL, and the USNDP are great programs to have familiarity with as they are becoming hotter and hotter for development.
GraveyTrain9
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really wish Drury had a more memorable playing career with NYR. I always loved the way he played the game but when I hear the name Chris Drury, the first thing I think about is how much of a free agent bust he was for us. It wasn't his fault that he was grossly overpaid but its still a shame.
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IIRC He only retired after the buyout. He could have retired prior to it and saved the Rangers the cap space. Instead he chose to force the buyout and a cap hit to a team that was already struggling with cap space. It was his right and Slats' fault for offering such a poor contract. However many fans, including myself, were livid because Drury was well over paid for what he was producing and him retiring after the buyout seemed like greed rather than the supposed team player he was purported to be.
As a former Hobey Baker winner and an organization that has had more Hobey Baker award winners play for them than any other, I have to think that the Rangers are seeing the future where the NCAA is a resource and are planning to exploit it. Good long term strategy for them and if Drury is good at it, perhaps I'll get over my loathing for him.
I think it ruined Mark Messier's Christmas, he must be pissed!
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girardi plans to play...if we bought him out and then he immediately announced his retirement then it would be a similar situation
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I just think it's ridiculous people blame a player for not throwing away millions. Nobody in their right mind would do that.
GeorgeKaplan
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Drury was bought out on June 29, retired mid-August. That tells me there wasn't much interest from other teams trying to sign him, or that it wasn't significant enough for him to want to relocate
BobMarleyNYR
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Very good to see both parties, right on, their chests when sleeping, "come together again." Must've been pretty hard for them, EH?
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