Confirmed Trade: [CHI/FLA] Vinnie Hinostroza for Brad Morrison

[ClydeLee]

at what point does chicago owe up to florida for all these slushy deals?

This is that, Chicago is giving them some free cap space

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Probably just cuts down on payroll. I remember seeing reports in the offseason they wanted them slashed.

They also traded a guy making 3.5M in salary (Matheson) for a guy making 5.3M in salary. That's not exactly slashing unless there was more salary in that deal going to Pittsburgh.

 

[Papa044]

Probably just cuts down on payroll. I remember seeing reports in the offseason they wanted them slashed.

right because 7.5M of that cap space has nothing to do with Ekblad going on IR

 

[ClydeLee]

They also traded a guy making 3.5M in salary (Matheson) for a guy making 5.3M in salary. That's not exactly slashing unless there was more salary in that deal going to Pittsburgh.

The offseason report was specifically they wanted to slash the defensive payroll. Which I think was really just code for we want Matheson and probably Stralman too gone.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No future for Vinnie with Florida so they do him a solid and Chicago sees if something clicks for the last 20 games.

 

[BStinson]

They also traded a guy making 3.5M in salary (Matheson) for a guy making 5.3M in salary. That's not exactly slashing unless there was more salary in that deal going to Pittsburgh.

Maybe they viewed Hornqvist in higher regard. It’s not like Matheson was doing great in Florida and that’s a backloaded long contract. Like I said there were reports during the offseason, maybe they’re true maybe they’re not.

right because 7.5M of that cap space has nothing to do with Ekblad going on IR

Payroll and cap space aren’t the same thing. One is a AHL/ECHL with a salary of 60k and the other is still owed ~320k in salary.

 

[Papa044]

Maybe they viewed Hornqvist in higher regard. It’s not like Matheson was doing great in Florida and that’s a backloaded long contract. Like I said there were reports during the offseason, maybe they’re true maybe they’re not.

Payroll and cap space aren’t the same thing. One is a AHL/ECHL with a salary of 60k and the other is still owed ~320k in salary.

Sure, but this move has nothing to do with the owners trying to save money. if anything its for opening up a roster spot to add come trade deadline

 

[BStinson]

Sure, but this move has nothing to do with the owners trying to save money. if anything its for opening up a roster spot to add come trade deadline

Only way you’d know that is if you work in the FO or if it was reported by a credible source (none posted here). Could be to cut a little bit of costs. Could be doing Vinnie a favor. Could be for the roster spot (could just waive him, only 47 contract atm). Or some combo, or something else all together.

 

[banks]

Florida ditches a player they don't like for nothing.

Chicago brings back a player they like for nothing.

Win - win.

 

[violaswallet]

Florida ditches a player they don't like for nothing.

Chicago brings back a player they like for nothing.

Win - win.

The other winner: Hinostroza.

Of the cheap signing (Hinny, Verh, Lomberg), I was most excited for Hinny but it just didn’t work out. Q preferred to play a seventh D than him when Duclair, Barkov and Hornqvist were out. He gets to play for a new contract where he might be able to contribute.


This doesn’t effect our cap space: we will have like 20M available at the deadline anyways with the Ekblad injury

 

[Anton Babchuk]

They also traded a guy making 3.5M in salary (Matheson) for a guy making 5.3M in salary. That's not exactly slashing unless there was more salary in that deal going to Pittsburgh.

there was. sceviour makes $1.2m and was part of that trade. also, after this season hornqvist has two more years at a $5.3m salary while matheson has five more years at an average of $5.7m salary (lmao). they took on some money short term but ditched a lot long term.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Was Hinostroza just a product of some “well someone has to score” Arizona teams?

it's funny because yotes fans immediate thought bowman got fleeced giving up hinostroza in the Hossa deal. hinostroza was always a tweener. if you force feed him middle six minutes on a bad team, sure he can get you 30-40 pts. but he likely doesn't have a daily spot on a good team

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Capfriendly says Florida has 14+ deadline cap space

Hall and Montour going to Florida confirmed!

I said that as a joke but after more thought, it might be a smart move for the Cats to do.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Hall and Montour going to Florida confirmed!

I said that as a joke but after more thought, it might be a smart move for the Cats to do.

We don't really need Montour though. We need help on the pk and someone to shut down the opposition's best forwards.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

We don't really need Montour though. We need help on the pk and someone to shut down the opposition's best forwards.

Montour PKs and is deployed as a shit down guy!!

Ideally the Cats would acquire Savard or Ekholm or Manson.

Even more ideal would be getting Ekholm or Savard for the PK, and Montour for the PP (I’m assuming Ekblad is on one of the PP units here).

I just assume with the season the Cats are having it might be one to go for it and make the team deeper. At worst it fails and you don’t have to pay them beyond this season.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Montour PKs and is deployed as a shit down guy!!

Intentional slip up?

Chicago really has a weird thing for trading for former players

They really do ~ seems to happen at least once a year!

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Intentional slip up?



They really do ~ seems to happen at least once a year!

Nah. Siri has a problem with “shut” for me. Apparently I say shit too much

 

[Dread Clawz]

Montour PKs and is deployed as a shit down guy!!

Ideally the Cats would acquire Savard or Ekholm or Manson.

Even more ideal would be getting Ekholm or Savard for the PK, and Montour for the PP (I’m assuming Ekblad is on one of the PP units here).

I just assume with the season the Cats are having it might be one to go for it and make the team deeper. At worst it fails and you don’t have to pay them beyond this season.

Montour isn't really someone I think of when I think of a shutdown guy. He does an admirable job on that Sabres team, but I think Forsling can/has played at the same level. We need an upgrade to play with Weegar. I'd like either Manson or Savard, although Manson has had the better season. Savard is attractive though because we don't have to give Seattle anything to not touch him.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Montour isn't really someone I think of when I think of a shutdown guy. He does an admirable job on that Sabres team, but I think Forsling can/has played at the same level. We need an upgrade to play with Weegar. I'd like either Manson or Savard, although Manson has had the better season. Savard is attractive though because we don't have to give Seattle anything to not touch him.

Is Weegar deployed as a shutdown guy? I assumed he was Ekblad’s partner and they got mostly neutral zone or offensive zone starts. Of course I also don’t watch as much hockey as I used to because I’m too busy with school. So I only occasionally make time for a Sabres game so I can rip on them.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Is Weegar deployed as a shutdown guy? I assumed he was Ekblad’s partner and they got mostly neutral zone or offensive zone starts. Of course I also don’t watch as much hockey as I used to because I’m too busy with school. So I only occasionally make time for a Sabres game so I can rip on them.

Yeah him and Ekblad were the shutdown pairing and the top pk pairing. Ekblad also played the top pp pairing, which also played almost the whole 2 minutes. Weegar is now forced to play all the toughest minutes in all situations. He' s doing a good job of it for now, but eventually he' s going to buckle without help.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Yeah him and Ekblad were the shutdown pairing and the top pk pairing. Ekblad also played the top pp pairing, which also played almost the whole 2 minutes. Weegar is now forced to play all the toughest minutes in all situations. He' s doing a good job of it for now, but eventually he' s going to buckle without help.

Interesting. I wouldn’t have thought so. But in that case, losing Ekblad is a big loss.

 

[jetsforever]

TBH I thought Hinostroza was still playing for Chicago.

 

[Laus723]

Maybe they viewed Hornqvist in higher regard. It’s not like Matheson was doing great in Florida and that’s a backloaded long contract. Like I said there were reports during the offseason, maybe they’re true maybe they’re not.

Payroll and cap space aren’t the same thing. One is a AHL/ECHL with a salary of 60k and the other is still owed ~320k in salary.

yeah, those reports were false. They added loads of defenders and ADDED to the payroll. They also paid their employees throughout the pandemic. But yeah, they really need that 500K.

Vinnie couldn’t get into the lineup, now he has a chance to get into Chicago’s lineup. That’s what this was about, and maybe freeing a

also, Panthers just added Knight and Kierstad, this frees a spot.

 

[rt]

I’m a Yotes fan. I’m happy for Vinny. Guy works his ass off. Glad he gets to head back to Chicago and give it one more shot.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

what’s the word on Morrison?

In junior he was a guy that looked skilled but played with little intensity and really doesn't have the drive to be a better player. Will be in Europe before long.