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This is a pretty terrible take.no way the CAT gets 9 mil. He is a PP goal scorer who is a RFA. he was 33rd in pts. and is not good on D. 7 mil seems about right.
This is a pretty terrible take.no way the CAT gets 9 mil. He is a PP goal scorer who is a RFA. he was 33rd in pts. and is not good on D. 7 mil seems about right.
1 | Patrick Kane | RW | 31 | $10,500,000 | ||
2 | Jonathan Toews | C | 32 | $10,500,000 | ||
3 | Brandon Saad | LW | 27 | $6,000,000 | ||
4 | Andrew Shaw | C | 29 | $3,900,000 | ||
5 | Ryan Carpenter | C | 29 | $1,000,000 | ||
6 | David Kampf | C | 25 | $1,000,000 |
1 | Brent Seabrook | D | 35 | $6,875,000 | ||
2 | Duncan Keith | D | 37 | $5,538,462 | ||
3 | Calvin de Haan | D | 29 | $4,550,000 | ||
4 | Olli Maatta | D | 26 | $4,083,333 | ||
5 | Connor Murphy | D | 27 | $3,850,000 | ||
6 | Carl Dahlstrom | D | 25 | $850,000 |
1 | Collin Delia | G | 26 | $1,000,000 |
find me a comp of a 21 year old winger/center that has 70 goals in 160 games the past 2 years...I will wait and lmk what his contract is or will be...find me a far comp for a wing coming off his ELC that is a avg 2 way player. Aho is a center which probably adds 1 mil and has outscored Cat by 20 pts over 2 years and was a +26 last year Cat was a 0 last year. 7 Mil would put him in the top 3 wings ever paid after there ELC. 7mil seems about right. Pirri can score goals but he is not even in the league I know Cat is better but centers get a lot more then wings and guys that can do more then score get more as well.
find me a far comp for a wing coming off his ELC that is a avg 2 way player. Aho is a center which probably adds 1 mil and has outscored Cat by 20 pts over 2 years and was a +26 last year Cat was a 0 last year. 7 Mil would put him in the top 3 wings ever paid after there ELC. 7mil seems about right. Pirri can score goals but he is not even in the league I know Cat is better but centers get a lot more then wings and guys that can do more then score get more as well.
at least he could have went with Timo Meier who scored 20 less goals and still makes $6 mil as a winger - and though he does play a more complete game, he is not a Selke candidate by any means..Did you just bring up.... Pirri?
Lmao
I have seen several mentions of buying out Matta. Is that actually a realistic expectation or just speculation by posters?
I would say a just in case option - his buyout is pennies if we need to move someone - we will see how he performs but I think the point is his contract is the easiest to move from hence why there is no cap hell here..I have seen several mentions of buying out Matta. Is that actually a realistic expectation or just speculation buy posters?
Just an option. It would be in the vicinity of $680K or less for a number of years. That's why the risk / reward on the Maatta trade made sense. There is an reasonable exit option if Maatta is bad.I have seen several mentions of buying out Matta. Is that actually a realistic expectation or just speculation buy posters?
at least he could have went with Timo Meier who scored 20 less goals and still makes $6 mil as a winger - and though he does play a more complete game, he is not a Selke candidate by any means..
Timo Meier - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
this isn't even going to touch the floor for Cat IMO...
contracts still come down to goals and points, unless you are a selke winner nobody gives a shit about your size and will pay you more because you are a bigger player that has produced less- that makes no sense..Cat will get more than Meier, though I hope and pray you are right and he takes something close to this..With Meiers contract I don’t think Cat can ask for much more than 6 if he’s looking for a similar term. Meiers hasn’t scored like Cat but his size and power makes him a lot more than just goals.
They’re different wingers but they are pretty close to equal when you look at the total package of each.
5 yrs x 7 mil or 4x6 is where he should be.
contracts still come down to goals and points, unless you are a selke winner nobody gives a **** about your size and will pay you more because you are a bigger player that has produced less- that makes no sense..Cat will get more than Meier, though I hope and pray you are right and he takes something close to this..
don't confuse the draft and a player getting a contract - nobody gets a contract handed out based off of their size- it means nothing..show me a contract that was given out to a player was bigger than someone else with equal stats and made far more...I'm not sure I agree with that. if people only cared about scoring goals then Cat would not have lasted until pick 39. all teams value size and speed and the ability to be physical and to play a 2 -way game. Cat has a great release but he is always going to be limited and what he can bring in a playoff series and on the Def side. is there any team that would offer sheet Cat at $8 mil? never. Because if he ever drops to 30 goals per year he is only worth 5mil. guys that score goals from the wing but are not 2 way players are available all the time. compared to centers or 2 way wingers. Look at Hoffman? he is a goal scoring winger and he does not carry much value.
I’d rather have a competitive team this year than a boat load of cap space for nothing. Cap hell is always overblown and we have plenty of guys we can trade to shed salary next summer. I’m pretty sure 90% of the people here know where we stand but until we see the number for Strome and Cat who really cares. I’m just excited for this upcoming season.