Dreger: Canucks Looking to TRADE to fix D

[VancouverJagger]

Why aren't we targeting Carlo here? What would it take to get him? Saw a Bruins fan propose Carlo for Horvat - that won't happen but anything else Miller, Garland, Hoglander, OEL are all available.

Imo he makes a lot more sense as a D partner for Hughes than some of the other options out there.

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

Low hockey IQ comment.

That’s fair. I can tell you’re an objective and impartial party.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

If you want to break your D, you can take Tyson Barrie from us.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Canucks would obviously be interested, but I don't see the fit. Canucks aren't true buyers - they have some valuable assets at forward that they would look to trade as the main value for a defenceman coming back. I can't see Garland, Boeser, Miller, etc... making sense as the main piece returning from a Minnesota perspective.


No value mainly due to his migraine issues.

I think Myers definitely has value though.

Myers has more value to us though. 1m overpayed, but if we trade him we will be spending 6m+ to get someone equivalent, or spending more assets that we give to get someone cheaper and/or better.

 

[Cogburn]

Swap OEL with Myers and I'd consider it.



I think the Sharks would be fine retaining a couple mil on Karlsson but it'd probably be something like Myers, Poolman, Dickinson, and a draft pick. This also assumes that Karlsson wants to go to Vancouver. Possible but not certain.

That just seems like a redux of the Ekman-Larsson trade, but that's just me.

 

[Kryten]

Michael Russo mentioned Guerin is tentativelynshopping Dumba.

Any interest there?

Dumba would be nice what do you want

 

[CraigsList]

Garland for Dumba or Marino makes too much sense.

 

[Siludin]

That’s fair. I can tell you’re an objective and impartial party.

Here are the top 15 RW for points since 2017/2018 (Boeser's first full season)

Here's points/game:

Please explain again how he is overpaid?
Make sure it's objective and impartial.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Garland for Dumba or Marino makes too much sense.

Dumba makes no sense IMO. UFA at years end and nees an extension. Marino is better suited and has term with a good cap hit. Garland for Marino prob makes the most sense, but if we can't re-sign Miller. Miller for Marino+1st+Poulin would be the next best option.

 

[TropicOfNoReturn]

Dumba makes no sense IMO. UFA at years end and nees an extension. Marino is better suited and has term with a good cap hit. Garland for Marino prob makes the most sense, but if we can't re-sign Miller. Miller for Marino+1st+Poulin would be the next best option.

Miller needs to fetch more than that

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Miller needs to fetch more than that

A #3 RHD with term and a good cap hit, a 1st in a deep draft(like 2015 and 2003) and a top prospect with top 6 upside and can play in Abby is a good return. If it is a sign and trade, maybe they add at that point.

 

[Lapa]

Dumba would be nice what do you want

A center with offensive capabilities would be nice

 

[Kryten]

A center with offensive capabilities would be nice

I wonder if a Horvat plus Dickinson or Pearson for Dumba would work

 

[EverTheCynic]

Why aren't we targeting Carlo here? What would it take to get him? Saw a Bruins fan propose Carlo for Horvat - that won't happen but anything else Miller, Garland, Hoglander, OEL are all available.

Imo he makes a lot more sense as a D partner for Hughes than some of the other options out there.

He’s the perfect player imo.

He shined with Krug. Struggled without him. He was at his best playing with an undersized highly mobile puck mover.

Right age. Right contract. Good trading partners with Boston. I don’t know why we’re not on it.

I wonder if Horvat for Dumba+ would work

If that + is Lambos or a 1st, sure.

 

[TheNumber4]

Trade for Dillon, apparently he “fixed” the Jets D last year.

 

[MLSE]

Take Justin Holl, I swear he's not a disaster!

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That just seems like a redux of the Ekman-Larsson trade, but that's just me.

I would say the OEL trade was more to get Garland was it not?

 

[VancouverJagger]

He’s the perfect player imo.

He shined with Krug. Struggled without him. He was at his best playing with an undersized highly mobile puck mover.

Right age. Right contract. Good trading partners with Boston. I don’t know why we’re not on it.

If that + is Lambos or a 1st, sure.

Yeah I agree completely.........with reports that he's available potentially as well I really don't get why we haven't been all over this.

I would do Garland and a + if that's what it took. Garland and a 2nd even. Finding a long term partner for Hughes has gotta be near the top of our priority list.

 

[Eggtimer]

Severson plus
One of :
Holtz plus another prospect / pick
or 2023 top 5 protected 1st
Plus :
Foote or Ty Smith or Boqvist

For
Miller

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Severson plus
One of :
Holtz plus another prospect / pick
or 2023 top 5 protected 1st
Plus :
Foote or Ty Smith or Boqvist

For
Miller

How is Seversons defensive game overall? Does it look bad simply because he is on a bad team?
If he is solid defensively(though doesnt seem very physical) I could see something around

Severson, Holtz, Boqvist working, depending on what Boqvist might want salary wise. Maybe we send back Poolman or Pearson to make cap work.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Why aren't we targeting Carlo here? What would it take to get him? Saw a Bruins fan propose Carlo for Horvat - that won't happen but anything else Miller, Garland, Hoglander, OEL are all available.

Imo he makes a lot more sense as a D partner for Hughes than some of the other options out there.

B's have zero interest in Miller, mostly because of the cap, but so that's not happening.
Less than zero interest in OEL. Makes no sense at all.


The only one that makes ANY sense is Garland and I just don't think that is even likely. I'm not a huge Carlo fan, but they really don't have any other options and moving him for a wing is pretty counterproductive.

 

[innitfam]

Swap OEL with Myers and I'd consider it.



I think the Sharks would be fine retaining a couple mil on Karlsson but it'd probably be something like Myers, Poolman, Dickinson, and a draft pick. This also assumes that Karlsson wants to go to Vancouver. Possible but not certain.

No real point on the deal from Vancouvers POV unless OEL is going back. That probably kills it from SJs perspective though, which is understandable.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

B's have zero interest in Miller, mostly because of the cap, but so that's not happening.
Less than zero interest in OEL. Makes no sense at all.


The only one that makes ANY sense is Garland and I just don't think that is even likely. I'm not a huge Carlo fan, but they really don't have any other options and moving him for a wing is pretty counterproductive.

What are the B's needs then if they don't need a #1c or a #2RW?

 

[Dr Quincy]

What are the B's needs then if they don't need a #1c or a #2RW?

IF (and it looks likely) Bergeron and Krejci are returning, you tell me how adding Miller's salary works.

Could they use a #2RW? Sure.
If they dealt Carlo for Garland, guess what they need more....

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

IF (and it looks likely) Bergeron and Krejci are returning, you tell me how adding Miller's salary works.

Could they use a #2RW? Sure.
If they dealt Carlo for Garland, guess what they need more....

Having a 6m 3rd pairing doesn't seem like the best idea either. I honestly think you guys need a rebuild more than anything now. Or at least retool to a younger team. Pasta for futures, Carlo for futures, maybe a few deadline deals.
If Canucks could trade Myers for futures and then add to those to make up Carlo, I wonder what it would take. Then do something around Garland for Marino. Would be pricey, but there was recently a market for Myers out there...