GDT: Canada vs USA

[Ronnie Residue]

6-2.

But please continue crying about it, it’s really hilarious

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Both calls were so close they could've gone either way. But the point is that Canada was, again, the beneficiary.

It likely wouldn't have been a big issue if a history of home cooking did not exist.
I’m guessing many of the Americans are tired of this. It’s accumulative. It all adds up over time.
And the Hlinka isnt some random tournament. It’s arguably the second best junior tourney nowadays. That screw job of the USA that year was flat out outrageous.

First call was terrible- US got hosed. Second call was blatant goalie interference and refs made the correct call.

Bad refereeing has been a main staple in the iihf. Canada historically got the raw end of iihf calls. The 5 min major on Desn in the opening Czech gsme is sn example.

6-2 (or 6-3) still is a significant win. Better team won despite poor refereeing.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Only thing more annoying than a sore loser, is a bad winner.

Gloating isn't gonna help.

 

[Macman]

The Americans would have won if not for the fact their defence pretty much sucked, their goalie made few big saves, they allowed six consecutive goals, and blew a two-goal lead. Other than that, though.

 

[Voight]

USA came out strong but they faltered and thats how you lose 6-2.

I don't understand the fuss about the non goal call. It was pretty black & white.

 

[Voight]

End of the day, they’re still the second best country at hockey now and canadas biggest threat to hegemony. This was a very good and skilled American team. Both elite teams really

They have won Gold x3 and Silver x2 the last 5 years. Including 2 of the last 3 Golds. USA has had great success the last 13 years, but Canada is still head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[NyQuil]

Only thing more annoying than a sore loser, is a bad winner.

Gloating isn't gonna help.

HF is always full of sore losers and bad winners.

I agree that Cooley’s gloating didn’t help.

 

[Voight]

Lol you clowns gloating over the refs handing it to you. Really easy to win when every goal that goes in just magically doesnt count. Canadas game indeed. Dont even get me started on the fact that you guys are too scared to let the russians even compete these days.

For starters, Russia has 1 Gold in the last 20 years. Not sure why you would claim Canada is scared of them.

& its the IIHF that wouldn't let Russia compete.

 

[Dr Pepper]

HF is always full of sore losers and bad winners.

I agree that Cooley’s gloating didn’t help.

Seeing it from the teenage players is one thing, but seeing it from posters on here who have no stake in the game whatsoever is another thing entirely.

 

[Confucius]

Seeing it from the teenage players is one thing, but seeing it from posters on here who have no stake in the game whatsoever is another thing entirely.

If the fans didn’t gloat or heap praise there would be no league, It’s all about the fans, if not for the fans the players would play in beer leagues at best. Some may not even do that as their regular job would get in the way.

 

[umma gumma]

Do y'all think Cooley could hear the crowd at the end of the game?

 

[Dach Vader]

Both calls were so close they could've gone either way. But the point is that Canada was, again, the beneficiary.

It likely wouldn't have been a big issue if a history of home cooking did not exist.
I’m guessing many of the Americans are tired of this. It’s accumulative. It all adds up over time.
And the Hlinka isnt some random tournament. It’s arguably the second best junior tourney nowadays. That screw job of the USA that year was flat out outrageous.

Those were blatant calls not soft ones.

They were so obvious everyone in the room called them as they happened. You guys are so cringe. Terrible sportsmanship.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Came here for talk about the game and instead had to read through 3 pages of arguments for “who has better beer”…

Mods not going to clean that up?

 

[LeafGrief]

Nothing on HF surprises me any more, but both of the goaltender interference calls were correct. The first one was a textbook box out by the American player, inside the crease. You can’t box out the other team’s goalie inside his crease. 2nd was a stick jammed into the pads and pushing, again inside the crease.

The NHL makes wacky goalie interference calls all the time, but both of these were textbook calls and I was glad to see them correctly called. First one would be fine in the white paint, 2nd should never be allowed.

 

[Confucius]

Came here for talk about the game and instead had to read through 3 pages of arguments for “who has better beer”…

Mods not going to clean that up?

Well, if I was a fan of team USA, I wouldn’t want to hear about the game either..

 

[67 others]

First call was terrible- US got hosed. Second call was blatant goalie interference and refs made the correct call.

Bad refereeing has been a main staple in the iihf. Canada historically got the raw end of iihf calls. The 5 min major on Desn in the opening Czech gsme is sn example.

6-2 (or 6-3) still is a significant win. Better team won despite poor refereeing.

How was the first call terrible?
Milic was trying to slide his pad over and the player in the crease skate stopped his slide dead by planting his skate there so he could not slide his pad over. The player then sent the puck into the exact spot he prevented Milic's pad from sliding.

That is cut and dry goalie interference in IIHF

 

[NyQuil]

Came here for talk about the game and instead had to read through 3 pages of arguments for “who has better beer”…

Mods not going to clean that up?

You must have missed the 78 pages of discussion about the game.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I mean my personal opinion on the first goalie interference was that it should have counted. But Bob had a pretty in depth explanation of the call and why it was the correct one based off the IIHF rules. Basically because he was in the blue paint and the puck was not and he impeded the goalie making an attempt on the puck inside the blue paint that is goalie interference in International hockey. I can also admit I would be pissed off if I was on the other end of it...but it does seem to be the correct interpretation of the rules.

 

[LBS I Digress]

Those were blatant calls not soft ones.

They were so obvious everyone in the room called them as they happened. You guys are so cringe. Terrible sportsmanship.

How do you expect people to take you seriously?

I don’t care if it’s iihf, that first call was inexcusably awful. In no way does Jackson ever actually impede the goalies progress in front of the net. Saying that “maybe his skate stopped him from pushing out his pad” is a joke. There was absolutely nothing blatant about it and it’s disingenuous to paint it as such.

And now people are really gonna turn around and claim poor sportsmanship lololololol? I don’t even care about the second call, the first one was so obviously not goalie inference, and it changed the dynamic of the game from being tied again to giving canada a considerable momentum advantage. And if we’re being honest then you know that goal wouldn’t be ruled goaltender interference in either USA hockey or Hockey canada.

Get over it, you had a call go massively in your favor when it probably shouldn’t have because of an archaic in the crease rule and to your credit you were able to capitalize off of it. Congrats, enjoy it, embrace it, but don’t act like it didn’t happen, and definitely don’t be upset that other fans aren’t happy about it.

 

[Tanknation]

Came here for talk about the game and instead had to read through 3 pages of arguments for “who has better beer”…

Mods not going to clean that up?

Yea no kidding eh. It's amazing that in 2023 we still all have to keep these guns to our heads and forced into reading pages from a hockey board.

 

[dwdl21]

How do you expect people to take you seriously?

I don’t care if it’s iihf, that first call was inexcusably awful. In no way does Jackson ever actually impede the goalies progress in front of the net. Saying that “maybe his skate stopped him from pushing out his pad” is a joke. There was absolutely nothing blatant about it and it’s disingenuous to paint it as such.

And now people are really gonna turn around and claim poor sportsmanship lololololol? I don’t even care about the second call, the first one was so obviously not goalie inference, and it changed the dynamic of the game from being tied again to giving canada a considerable momentum advantage. And if we’re being honest then you know that goal wouldn’t be ruled goaltender interference in either USA hockey or Hockey canada.

Get over it, you had a call go massively in your favor when it probably shouldn’t have because of an archaic in the crease rule and to your credit you were able to capitalize off of it. Congrats, enjoy it, embrace it, but don’t act like it didn’t happen, and definitely don’t be upset that other fans aren’t happy about it.

Dude give it up, you're wrong, on all counts.

 

[waitin425]

Such a huge win for Team Canada. I think the score doesn't reflect how close the game actually was. A 7 game series between these two teams would be a toss up.

On to the Czechs!

 

[waitin425]

How do you expect people to take you seriously?

I don’t care if it’s iihf, that first call was inexcusably awful. In no way does Jackson ever actually impede the goalies progress in front of the net. Saying that “maybe his skate stopped him from pushing out his pad” is a joke. There was absolutely nothing blatant about it and it’s disingenuous to paint it as such.

And now people are really gonna turn around and claim poor sportsmanship lololololol? I don’t even care about the second call, the first one was so obviously not goalie inference, and it changed the dynamic of the game from being tied again to giving canada a considerable momentum advantage. And if we’re being honest then you know that goal wouldn’t be ruled goaltender interference in either USA hockey or Hockey canada.

Get over it, you had a call go massively in your favor when it probably shouldn’t have because of an archaic in the crease rule and to your credit you were able to capitalize off of it. Congrats, enjoy it, embrace it, but don’t act like it didn’t happen, and definitely don’t be upset that other fans aren’t happy about it.

As a fan of Team Canada, I believe you are right. That call was weak, and I am not sure the interference as was makes such a difference to have a goal overturned. It changed the course of the game no doubt. But.......unfortunately it is the rules within the IIHF. I have no doubt in my mind if the roles were reversed that would have been called on Canada. It is frustrating and I can appreciate American's frustration. Canada won. Who knows what the outcome would have been if that goal was allowed. We will never know. That's how she goes.

 

[swimmer77]

On the second goal that was reversed an unmanned stick tried to score, Team Canada's own number 4 tried to score but McGroarty's not allowed an attempt. That's just not right.

 

[CupInSIX]

Going by how dominant they were in the first 10 minutes, I thought it was going to be a 7-1 route for USA but the better team won.