C Shane Wright - Kingston Frontenacs, OHL (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 3

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Seattle lost game 1 and made a roster change, won game 2 so they kept the same roster for game 3, including Martin Jones in goal. I'd assume after losing last night that they'll switch it up again and get Wright into the lineup for game 4.
So he's a bubble scratch guy ? Doesn't really change the fact that he should be a consistent fixture in a lineup somewhere right now, if they lose the next game does he get scratched again? Seems like an odd way to bring along a player who's decline in play were largely attributed to not playing for an entire season.

I'm all for giving him his 9 games , but don't drag the process out so long he misses more games in junior. Of if you are keeping him, accept that he's going to make mistakes but at least play him.
 

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Seems crazy not to play him. He’s barely played in last 2 years. He needs game action.
 

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Seattle lost game 1 and made a roster change, won game 2 so they kept the same roster for game 3, including Martin Jones in goal. I'd assume after losing last night that they'll switch it up again and get Wright into the lineup for game 4.

He played 6 minutes in game 1 . Unless you're dressing an enforcer for whatever reason no player should only get to play 6 minutes.
 
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Seems like an odd way to bring along a player who's decline in play were largely attributed to not playing for an entire season.

That was always a poor explanation. Missing a season was bad but he lost ground relative to his OHL group who.... also missed a whole season.
 

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I think it works best with a constant and solid routine. Like, honestly, just have your player development guys camp out in Kingston. The NHL grind really isn't built for player development, which is why most massive gains are made in the off-season where you work with individual skill/skating coaches and physical trainers. NHL practices are very overrated in this regard, the grind of the season doesn't allow for significant player development on this front. The travel is too intense and the games too draining. So, either go back to junior and work with private skill coaches and Seattle player development guys Monday to Thursday (as a crazy amount of OHL games are friday to sunday) or play him 3rd line minutes at a minimum.

Pretty much this, his usage so far this season isn't a recipe for success at all.
 

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So he's a bubble scratch guy ? Doesn't really change the fact that he should be a consistent fixture in a lineup somewhere right now, if they lose the next game does he get scratched again? Seems like an odd way to bring along a player who's decline in play were largely attributed to not playing for an entire season.

I'm all for giving him his 9 games , but don't drag the process out so long he misses more games in junior. Of if you are keeping him, accept that he's going to make mistakes but at least play him.

Obviously Seattle is more concerned with their chances at a playoff spot so that's why they aren't giving Wright playing time..........well not really but the NHL isn't a development league and the OHL is, easy answer here send him down FFS.
 

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If this continues ill start to wonder if the Kraken actually wanted to draft him and only took him because they were shell shocked that he dropped to them.

I wonder who the Kraken would have drafted if Wright hadn't been there.
I think they and several other teams will soon be lamenting passing on Kaspar. Wright was over drafted at 4OA.

Hakstol's handling Wright is nutty.

Sorry but playing a guy 6 minutes in his only game then healthy scratching him for the next two is idiotic coaching.
Maybe they just realize this kid isn’t ready for primetime. The question that I would be worried about is, whether he ever will be.
 
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Maybe they just realize this kid isn’t ready for primetime. The question that I would be worried about is, whether he ever will be.
If they don't think he's ready for the NHL yet, then he should be back in junior. If they think he's ready for the NHL, then he shouldn't be getting healthy scratched all the time and when he does play only play him 6 minutes.
 

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Hakstol's handling Wright is nutty.

Sorry but playing a guy 6 minutes in his only game then healthy scratching him for the next two is idiotic coaching.
Pat Burns once did the same with Joe Thornton.

But I suspect they are testing Wright's attitude towards it.

He was the talent predicted to go 1st overall, but 3 teams passed on him after talking with him, reportedly because of his attitude. When teams as bad as Montreal, New jersey and Arizona pass on you....LOL. Next thing you know there is footage of him having tantrums with Seattle coaches at practices and sitting on the ice not moving until the Zamboni driver honks 8 times and looking annoyed he has to move.
 
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Pat Burns once did the same with Joe Thornton.

But I suspect they are testing Wright's attitude towards it.

He was the talent predicted to go 1st overall, but 3 teams passed on him after talking with him, reportedly because of his attitude. When teams as bad as Montreal, New jersey and Arizona pass on you....LOL. Next thing you know there is footage of him having tantrums with Seattle coaches at practices and sitting on the ice not moving until the Zamboni driver honks 8 times and looking annoyed he has to move.
Link ?
 

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I can't remember which video it was, but Ill comb through after and find it.

it was either this channel or the podcast of the beat reporter. Which i am trying to locate.

I retweeted the Zamboni thing so that is easy to find lol

You make it sound like he's uncooperative or guilty of insubordination. You realize that being the last guy on the ice at practice is a good thing, right?
 

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Pat Burns once did the same with Joe Thornton.

But I suspect they are testing Wright's attitude towards it.

He was the talent predicted to go 1st overall, but 3 teams passed on him after talking with him, reportedly because of his attitude. When teams as bad as Montreal, New jersey and Arizona pass on you....LOL. Next thing you know there is footage of him having tantrums with Seattle coaches at practices and sitting on the ice not moving until the Zamboni driver honks 8 times and looking annoyed he has to move.

Wright wasn't passed 3 times cause of a made up problem issue. Montreal fans and their media are making up excues to find to justify that their team didn't take him.

Can we stop with the self proclaimed EXPERTS on how to develop a player... Yesterday wasn't a good time to play Wright.

Majority of all CHL are at a disadvantage when they are draft cause they are CHL players whom are intentionally restricting from being able to advance their development just so the 3 leagues look good. The Mcdavid, Matthews, Crosby even the Price (in case of goalies) type level talented players out of the CHL are rare.

Players that aren't CHL players can play in the AHL if the drafted team wants to, can play college hockey if the player wants to to further their development.

It may not be the best option for Wright to be send back down to jrs for another year yet he shouldn't be showed in right away in the kraken squad for top 6 mins right away especially when the most competition he faced are 15 to 20 year olds and not anyone older than that.
 
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Wright wasn't passed 3 times cause of a made up problem issue. Montreal fans and their media are making up excues to find to justify that their team didn't take him.

Can we stop with the self proclaimed EXPERTS on how to develop a player... Yesterday wasn't a good time to play Wright.

Majority of all CHL are at a disadvantage when they are draft cause they are CHL players whom are intentionally restricting from being able to advance their development just so the 3 leagues look good. The Mcdavid, Matthews, Crosby even the Price (in case of goalies) type level talented players out of the CHL are rare.

Players that aren't CHL players can play in the AHL if the drafted team wants to, can play college hockey if the player wants to to further their development.

It may not be the best option for Wright to be send back down to jrs for another year yet he shouldn't be showed in right away in the kraken squad for top 6 mins right away especially when the most competition he faced are 15 to 20 year olds and not anyone older than that.
You bet he was....
 
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You bet he was....
he was definitely passed once because of that. but New Jersey was already good at center, They needed a big winger or a RD defenseman. Once Slaf was taken they went RD. Arizona took Cooley because he was one of the frew top prospects that said he would be happy playing for the coyotes.
 

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he was definitely passed once because of that. but New Jersey was already good at center, They needed a big winger or a RD defenseman. Once Slaf was taken they went RD. Arizona took Cooley because he was one of the frew top prospects that said he would be happy playing for the coyotes.
They took Cooley because he has attributes Wright does not. Attributes they coveted more.

this isn’t a complicated exercise. We don’t need to figure out why a guy didn’t go first when he didnt even go third.
 

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They took Cooley because he has attributes Wright does not. Attributes they coveted more.

this isn’t a complicated exercise. We don’t need to figure out why a guy didn’t go first when he didnt even go third.
They took Cooley because they asked him straight up during the interviews if he would be happy playing Arizona.

This isn't a complicated exercise.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

P.S Don't reply to me if your just going to ignore my post just because it didn't fit your "view".
 

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They took Cooley because he has attributes Wright does not. Attributes they coveted more.

this isn’t a complicated exercise. We don’t need to figure out why a guy didn’t go first when he didnt even go third.

Arizona already made up their mind on who they want to take if that player was still there which is Cooley long before Montreal made their decision on wright or slaf and they decided to stick with that decision to go with Cooley.

The only way Arizona was going to take somoene else if montreal was going to take Cooley but they didn't. Arizona sticking with their plans has NOTHING to do with Wright.

Montreal media and Montreal fans are upset that the team went with slaf and decided to take their disappointment on Wright himself and started created excuses why Montreal didn't take Wright.

This is why no fans should start boasting over a specific player (spending money on a customized habs jersey with wrights name and number) or the Media boasting that wright is the next greatest montreal player ever until after its confirmed thats who montreal was going to take. Guess what that didn't happen and fans/media are upset.
 

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Arizona already made up their mind on who they want to take if that player was still there which is Cooley long before Montreal made their decision on wright or slaf and they decided to stick with that decision to go with Cooley.

The only way Arizona was going to take somoene else if montreal was going to take Cooley but they didn't. Arizona sticking with their plans has NOTHING to do with Wright.

Montreal media and Montreal fans are upset that the team went with slaf and decided to take their disappointment on Wright himself and started created excuses why Montreal didn't take Wright.

This is why no fans should start boasting over a specific player (spending money on a customized habs jersey with wrights name and number) or the Media boasting that wright is the next greatest montreal player ever until after its confirmed thats who montreal was going to take. Guess what that didn't happen and fans/media are upset.

No one is upset.

If Wright really was who the scouts thought would be the absolute best player, NJD and even the Coyotes would’ve taken him in a heart beat after MTL passed on him but they didn’t, and it’s not because NJD already has centers or because Cooley said he would be happy to play for the Coyotes.
 

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Arizona already made up their mind on who they want to take if that player was still there which is Cooley long before Montreal made their decision on wright or slaf and they decided to stick with that decision to go with Cooley.

The only way Arizona was going to take somoene else if montreal was going to take Cooley but they didn't. Arizona sticking with their plans has NOTHING to do with Wright.

Montreal media and Montreal fans are upset that the team went with slaf and decided to take their disappointment on Wright himself and started created excuses why Montreal didn't take Wright.

This is why no fans should start boasting over a specific player (spending money on a customized habs jersey with wrights name and number) or the Media boasting that wright is the next greatest montreal player ever until after its confirmed thats who montreal was going to take. Guess what that didn't happen and fans/media are upset.
Gotta give the Habs GM some credit, A huge chunk of the NHL's GM's would have bowed to the pressure of the media and fans and took Wright. He must have a big bag of pucks.

No one is upset.

If Wright really was who the scouts thought would be the absolute best player, NJD and even the Coyotes would’ve taken him in a heart beat after MTL passed on him but they didn’t, and it’s not because NJD already has centers or because Cooley said he would be happy to play for the Coyotes.
Thank you for providing evidence or at least some logical explanation to that not being the case.
 

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No one is upset.

If Wright really was who the scouts thought would be the absolute best player, NJD and even the Coyotes would’ve taken him in a heart beat after MTL passed on him but they didn’t, and it’s not because NJD already has centers or because Cooley said he would be happy to play for the Coyotes.

Yes people are upset and taking their disappointed on Wright... People actually spend MONEY on a Montreal wright #51 jersey before it was even revealed who Montreal was going to take...

The Devils never ever ever was going to take Wright if available. Its been very clear that they did not need a Center. They actually wanted a winger specifically slaf or a right handed Dman. Montreal took Slaf so devils took Nemec.

If the coyotes wanted wright they would have taken him, they didn't take wright and sticked with their orginal plans which was cooley if montreal didn't take him. Devils wasn't going to take cooley cause they didn't need a center.

If someone answers when asked that he want to be there in arizona and play for that team, you take him. Arizona wanting cooley has NOTHING to do with wright or rather cooley is better than Wright. You can't argue that cooley is better than wright thats why arizona took cooley cause it can't be prove yet since none of these players had any significant playing time in the NHL. Its going to take a few years until these draft picks can be fairly judged as NHL players.

Players drop in the draft for what ever reason it maybe all the time and no player should be ever trashed/harassed/insulted by fans or media just cause they are disappointed or upset that their team didn't take such and such. That's on them not on the player.
 
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