C Aatu Räty - Jukurit, Liiga (2021, 52nd, NYI)

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Posting he’s a steal after 10 games = 10 games.

Hard to understand sometimes, I know.
Nope. Clearly you don't.
49 =/= 10.
1 season =/= entire career

Good try at being smart tho!
 
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Posting he’s a steal after 10 games = 10 games.

Hard to understand sometimes, I know.


To be fair you usually don’t know if any player is a steal for a least a few years after hes drafted. Within context of course. If you drafted a guy in the 7th round and he’s a full time nhler in 2 years even as a bottom 6 or pair guy that could be considered a steal.

Raty was picked in the 2nd round and usually you hope that a 2nd rounder can make it. I think he will considered a steal if he becomes a legit top6 1-2 center. He’s a little different though because he was recently seen as a possible #1 overall just a year ago. Between Cree pandemic giving limited viewings and Raty not having a strong draft year he ended up dropping. He definitely looks like a guy that has what it takes to develop into a legit player. We’ll see.
 

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Raty also has to complete his mandatory military service back home. Hopefully he can bang that out between the end of his season and September next year.
 
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This was a zone entry where he showed his skill and strength on the puck. Lead to a Pelech goal a few seconds later.

Isn’t that an interference?

Still mind boggling how he fell that far though, jealous of the Isles.
 

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Isn’t that an interference?

Still mind boggling how he fell that far though, jealous of the Isles.
How is it inteference? He is in control of the puck and is using his body to hold on to the puck, while the opponent is trying physically to force him away from the puck. How is that an interference?
 

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Aatu Raty Impresses at Islanders Training Camp

"I've been extremely impressed with the player to this point," Islanders Head Coach Barry Trotz said. "[He's] quite mature. Has lots of game, high hockey IQ, he reminds me of a Zach Parise-type of player. He's got a really good motor, always around the net, very intelligent, wins his puck battles, has really good hands. What a great pick by our scouts. Personally, there's certain kids that you get really excited with when they show up at camp. A lot of times we get a kid at camp, we get excited, but we go, 'He has this hole and this hole. We're going to have to work on this.' But there's not that many holes in his game really."

for Trotz to say that about an 18 year old prospect is scary. That’s awesome to hear.
 

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Aatu Raty Impresses at Islanders Training Camp

"I've been extremely impressed with the player to this point," Islanders Head Coach Barry Trotz said. "[He's] quite mature. Has lots of game, high hockey IQ, he reminds me of a Zach Parise-type of player. He's got a really good motor, always around the net, very intelligent, wins his puck battles, has really good hands. What a great pick by our scouts. Personally, there's certain kids that you get really excited with when they show up at camp. A lot of times we get a kid at camp, we get excited, but we go, 'He has this hole and this hole. We're going to have to work on this.' But there's not that many holes in his game really."

for Trotz to say that about an 18 year old prospect is scary. That’s awesome to hear.

Weren’t the questions about him Hockey IQ related? Lol
 
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Weren’t the questions about him Hockey IQ related? Lol

From some people yes. I think if there were real concerns we wouldn’t see these types of comments from Trotz and the isles players.

also it’s an extremely small sample size and only preseason but in the 2 games he played I didn’t see a player with low IQ. The opposite actually. He was s really good positionally and he was playing center too. Didn’t look out of place which even for a top5 pick you would usually expect and be ok with in their first pro action as 18 year olds. Raty really looks like a player. 6’2 190lbs. Has the skills and size of a nice top2 center.
 
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Can someone who speaks Finnish give us the door notes?

Ok.. wrote these while listening.. BTW. this guy is seriously funny!:

First they chatted about racket sports (quash, badmington, padel). Aku (his brother, 2019 ARZ 5th round) is tough opponent. Then they discussed golf. He's very into it and was considering buying his own golf car. He has 11.3 handicap and target is to get it below 10 next summer.

Next he was asked his top3 sports (watching) hints:
1. NBA. Lakers and Warriors are his favorites. Also wants to see Nets games.
2. Golf majors
3. Kärpät matches, and in NHL obviously Isles.

About having his stick's blade sprayed white:
Jokingly he started that Kasper Puutio (2020 FLA 5th round) first started that last season but he (Puutio) only dared to spray his outdoor scrimmage sticks, not his actual game sticks. Aatu says that having white blade kind of makes you look faster and with his putrid feet :D he though that would make him look faster too. But in NHL camp he didn't dare to paint his stick. He said that Isles GM is so old school that that just wouldn't do. He continued saying that he had lots of discussions with Lou Lamoriello during the camp and that Lou was often at the icehall following them.

About not so good last season:
Learned a lot from that difficult season. Role and lines changed from game to game, so there was lots of unclarity what was expected of him. He was ill during WJC. The end of the season was better, but just before playoffs he was hit badly and after that (during playoffs) his back was so sore he couldn't even sit on bench between the shifts. Also between the periods he wasn't able to lace his skates by himself. He said that every hit was really painful during playoffs.
It was difficult period of time seeing others of his own age group develop while he couldn't go 100% yourself due to heath issues.
Liiga teams don't do as much trainings as he had in juniors. Therefore it was important to continue personal drills after the team training sessions. (Interviewer asked about this as Räty is known for having long extra sessions on ice).

About center position (esp. going into smaller rink):
Faceoffs are really important. He's been training that a lot. The NHL faceoff rules are much less strict than in Liiga. You can cheat more in NHL faceoffs. Center must play both offense and defense (he said it like you have to be at the same time forward and defenseman).

Interviewer said that he thinks Aatu has similarities to young Donskoi. Esp. his skating looks similar. Aatu said that that sounds good as he thinks Donskoi is really stylish player. Then he continued discussing about his skating practice. The key is to find relaxed body position (back straight, knees only moderately angled) that doesn't tire you easily. Esp. if you're aiming for lots of minutes as center.

Rookie and training camps:
When he went to the camp, he didn't know exactly when the training starts, so he was 3 days early there. He said that local kids show up only hours before the camp actually starts, so he had some days to spare, which was good considering jet lag and finding his way around the icehall etc.. Also he only knew Komarov and Otto Koivula before hand, so it was good to have some time
to get to know team members' faces.
Due to covid restrictions there were fewer guys than normally in the camp, which meant that there wasn't much time to wait before you turn (e.g. in skating practices), so the first
few days were very hard physically. It wasn't too bad for him as he's best physical attribute is endurance (in his own opinion). He had good physical test results (best of team in one endurance test). Barry Trotz gave positive feedback to him.
He said it was nice to play first NHL practice game in Madison Square Garden against Rangers. He played with Kieffer Bellows and Komarov, and it was good line. Next game was against Philadelphia that had their "best team" (without Ristolainen), but Isles played really well and won on OT. He played with Anthony Beauvillier who Aatu says is really good young player. Maybe not a star as such, but good team player. And of course Palmieri, who is really nice guy.
MSG was a really small rink and he thought he was bumbing all the time to other players.
He liked his time in the camp as people there didn't have any prejudice of how he should be and play unlike in Finland where everyone knows what to expect from him.
Also they talked about the health checks during the camp which were very extensive.
Aatu says that training in NHL is different. In Finland it's much more about tactics, defense systems and team oriented training, while in NHL the trainings are more intensive (shorter but more physical) and personal skills oriented.

ELC:
It was nice to have the deal. It has been his dream and even though draft happened later than he anticipated he was happy how things went. He wasn't totally sure about all the details of the deal (sliding etc. :D). He said that it would be totally ok for him to have some time in AHL too esp. as he thinks that Isles have really deep roster. His deal with Kärpät ends after this season, and he will go to NA after that regardless of whether it is AHL or NHL.

Isles:
Working man's team. Even star players have to do everything and don't get any slack. You have to do also all the non-talent things fully. And this suits him just fine.

Improvement areas:
82 game season is long. The skating must be in good level (incl. endurance). It must be in such level that you don't have to push all the time 100% just to keep up.
Center role issues like defense and faceoffs. You have to start from 4th line where you must win you battles and faceoffs to get opportunity to raise ladders and eventually to play in top lines.

Goals for this year:
Winning Liiga with Kärpät. Making WJC team and winning gold there.

Question from audience: Did you play badly last year to avoid being drafted by Buffalo?
Aatu answered that hedidn't, and it would've been "classic" to do so and be picked by something like their 4th pick. "There were just other good boys before me".
But if draft had been few weeks later after summer showcase he thinks he could've gone much sooner. "The showcase wen't SOOOO well for me".
But in the end he thinks he's really lucky to be drafted by Isles.
 
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Ok.. wrote these while listening.. BTW. this guy is seriously funny!:

First they chatted about racket sports (quash, badmington, padel). Aku (his brother, 2019 ARZ 5th round) is tough opponent. Then they discussed golf. He's very into it and was considering buying his own golf car. He has 11.3 handicap and target is to get it below 10 next summer.

Next he was asked his top3 sports (watching) hints:
1. NBA. Lakers and Warriors are his favorites. Also wants to see Nets games.
2. Golf majors
3. Kärpät matches, and in NHL obviously Isles.

About having his stick's blade sprayed white:
Jokingly he started that Kasper Puutio (2020 FLA 5th round) first started that last season but he (Puutio) only dared to spray his outdoor scrimmage sticks, not his actual game sticks. Aatu says that having white blade kind of makes you look faster and with his putrid feet :D he though that would make him look faster too. But in NHL camp he didn't dare to paint his stick. He said that Isles GM is so old school that that just wouldn't do. He continued saying that he had lots of discussions with Lou Lamoriello during the camp and that Lou was often at the icehall following them.

About not so good last season:
Learned a lot from that difficult season. Role and lines changed from game to game, so there was lots of unclarity what was expected of him. He was ill during WJC. The end of the season was better, but just before playoffs he was hit badly and after that (during playoffs) his back was so sore he couldn't even sit on bench between the shifts. Also between the periods he wasn't able to lace his skates by himself. He said that every hit was really painful during playoffs.
It was difficult period of time seeing others of his own age group develop while he couldn't go 100% yourself due to heath issues.
Liiga teams don't do as much trainings as he had in juniors. Therefore it was important to continue personal drills after the team training sessions. (Interviewer asked about this as Räty is known for having long extra sessions on ice).

About center position (esp. going into smaller rink):
Faceoffs are really important. He's been training that a lot. The NHL faceoff rules are much less strict than in Liiga. You can cheat more in NHL faceoffs. Center must play both offense and defense (he said it like you have to be at the same time forward and defenseman).

Interviewer said that he thinks Aatu has similarities to young Donskoi. Esp. his skating looks similar. Aatu said that that sounds good as he thinks Donskoi is really stylish player. Then he continued discussing about his skating practice. The key is to find relaxed body position (back straight, knees only moderately angled) that doesn't tire you easily. Esp. if you're aiming for lots of minutes as center.

Rookie and training camps:
When he went to the camp, he didn't know exactly when the training starts, so he was 3 days early there. He said that local kids show up only hours before the camp actually starts, so he had some days to spare, which was good considering jet lag and finding his way around the icehall etc.. Also he only knew Komarov and Otto Koivula before hand, so it was good to have some time
to get to know team members' faces.
Due to covid restrictions there were fewer guys than normally in the camp, which meant that there wasn't much time to wait before you turn (e.g. in skating practices), so the first
few days were very hard physically. It wasn't too bad for him as he's best physical attribute is endurance (in his own opinion). He had good physical test results (best of team in one endurance test). Barry Trotz gave positive feedback to him.
He said it was nice to play first NHL practice game in Madison Square Garden against Rangers. He played with Kieffer Bellows and Komarov, and it was good line. Next game was against Philadelphia that had their "best team" (without Ristolainen), but Isles played really well and won on OT. He played with Anthony Beauvillier who Aatu says is really good young player. Maybe not a star as such, but good team player. And of course Palmieri, who is really nice guy.
MSG was a really small rink and he thought he was bumbing all the time to other players.
He liked his time in the camp as people there didn't have any prejudice of how he should be and play unlike in Finland where everyone knows what to expect from him.
Also they talked about the health checks during the camp which were very extensive.
Aatu says that training in NHL is different. In Finland it's much more about tactics, defense systems and team oriented training, while in NHL the trainings are more intensive (shorter but more physical) and personal skills oriented.

ELC:
It was nice to have the deal. It has been his dream and even though draft happened later than he anticipated he was happy how things went. He wasn't totally sure about all the details of the deal (sliding etc. :D). He said that it would be totally ok for him to have some time in AHL too esp. as he thinks that Isles have really deep roster. His deal with Kärpät ends after this season, and he will go to NA after that regardless of whether it is AHL or NHL.

Isles:
Working man's team. Even star players have to do everything and don't get any slack. You have to do also all the non-talent things fully. And this suits him just fine.

Improvement areas:
82 game season is long. The skating must be in good level (incl. endurance). It must be in such level that you don't have to push all the time 100% just to keep up.
Center role issues like defense and faceoffs. You have to start from 4th line where you must win you battles and faceoffs to get opportunity to raise ladders and eventually to play in top lines.

Goals for this year:
Winning Liiga with Kärpät. Making WJC team and winning gold there.

Question from audience: Did you play badly last year to avoid being drafted by Buffalo?
Aatu answered that hedidn't, and it would've been "classic" to do so and be picked by something like their 4th pick. "There were just other good boys before me".
But if draft had been few weeks later after summer showcase he thinks he could've gone much sooner. "The showcase wen't SOOOO well for me".
But in the end he thinks he's really lucky to be drafted by Isles.


Wow!! Thank you so much for taking the time and writing this!!!
 
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Ok.. wrote these while listening.. BTW. this guy is seriously funny!:

First they chatted about racket sports (quash, badmington, padel). Aku (his brother, 2019 ARZ 5th round) is tough opponent. Then they discussed golf. He's very into it and was considering buying his own golf car. He has 11.3 handicap and target is to get it below 10 next summer.

Next he was asked his top3 sports (watching) hints:
1. NBA. Lakers and Warriors are his favorites. Also wants to see Nets games.
2. Golf majors
3. Kärpät matches, and in NHL obviously Isles.

About having his stick's blade sprayed white:
Jokingly he started that Kasper Puutio (2020 FLA 5th round) first started that last season but he (Puutio) only dared to spray his outdoor scrimmage sticks, not his actual game sticks. Aatu says that having white blade kind of makes you look faster and with his putrid feet :D he though that would make him look faster too. But in NHL camp he didn't dare to paint his stick. He said that Isles GM is so old school that that just wouldn't do. He continued saying that he had lots of discussions with Lou Lamoriello during the camp and that Lou was often at the icehall following them.

About not so good last season:
Learned a lot from that difficult season. Role and lines changed from game to game, so there was lots of unclarity what was expected of him. He was ill during WJC. The end of the season was better, but just before playoffs he was hit badly and after that (during playoffs) his back was so sore he couldn't even sit on bench between the shifts. Also between the periods he wasn't able to lace his skates by himself. He said that every hit was really painful during playoffs.
It was difficult period of time seeing others of his own age group develop while he couldn't go 100% yourself due to heath issues.
Liiga teams don't do as much trainings as he had in juniors. Therefore it was important to continue personal drills after the team training sessions. (Interviewer asked about this as Räty is known for having long extra sessions on ice).

About center position (esp. going into smaller rink):
Faceoffs are really important. He's been training that a lot. The NHL faceoff rules are much less strict than in Liiga. You can cheat more in NHL faceoffs. Center must play both offense and defense (he said it like you have to be at the same time forward and defenseman).

Interviewer said that he thinks Aatu has similarities to young Donskoi. Esp. his skating looks similar. Aatu said that that sounds good as he thinks Donskoi is really stylish player. Then he continued discussing about his skating practice. The key is to find relaxed body position (back straight, knees only moderately angled) that doesn't tire you easily. Esp. if you're aiming for lots of minutes as center.

Rookie and training camps:
When he went to the camp, he didn't know exactly when the training starts, so he was 3 days early there. He said that local kids show up only hours before the camp actually starts, so he had some days to spare, which was good considering jet lag and finding his way around the icehall etc.. Also he only knew Komarov and Otto Koivula before hand, so it was good to have some time
to get to know team members' faces.
Due to covid restrictions there were fewer guys than normally in the camp, which meant that there wasn't much time to wait before you turn (e.g. in skating practices), so the first
few days were very hard physically. It wasn't too bad for him as he's best physical attribute is endurance (in his own opinion). He had good physical test results (best of team in one endurance test). Barry Trotz gave positive feedback to him.
He said it was nice to play first NHL practice game in Madison Square Garden against Rangers. He played with Kieffer Bellows and Komarov, and it was good line. Next game was against Philadelphia that had their "best team" (without Ristolainen), but Isles played really well and won on OT. He played with Anthony Beauvillier who Aatu says is really good young player. Maybe not a star as such, but good team player. And of course Palmieri, who is really nice guy.
MSG was a really small rink and he thought he was bumbing all the time to other players.
He liked his time in the camp as people there didn't have any prejudice of how he should be and play unlike in Finland where everyone knows what to expect from him.
Also they talked about the health checks during the camp which were very extensive.
Aatu says that training in NHL is different. In Finland it's much more about tactics, defense systems and team oriented training, while in NHL the trainings are more intensive (shorter but more physical) and personal skills oriented.

ELC:
It was nice to have the deal. It has been his dream and even though draft happened later than he anticipated he was happy how things went. He wasn't totally sure about all the details of the deal (sliding etc. :D). He said that it would be totally ok for him to have some time in AHL too esp. as he thinks that Isles have really deep roster. His deal with Kärpät ends after this season, and he will go to NA after that regardless of whether it is AHL or NHL.

Isles:
Working man's team. Even star players have to do everything and don't get any slack. You have to do also all the non-talent things fully. And this suits him just fine.

Improvement areas:
82 game season is long. The skating must be in good level (incl. endurance). It must be in such level that you don't have to push all the time 100% just to keep up.
Center role issues like defense and faceoffs. You have to start from 4th line where you must win you battles and faceoffs to get opportunity to raise ladders and eventually to play in top lines.

Goals for this year:
Winning Liiga with Kärpät. Making WJC team and winning gold there.

Question from audience: Did you play badly last year to avoid being drafted by Buffalo?
Aatu answered that hedidn't, and it would've been "classic" to do so and be picked by something like their 4th pick. "There were just other good boys before me".
But if draft had been few weeks later after summer showcase he thinks he could've gone much sooner. "The showcase wen't SOOOO well for me".
But in the end he thinks he's really lucky to be drafted by Isles.
Thanks!
 

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Räty is having a loan transfer to Mikkelin Jukurit, according to newspaper Kaleva.

Positive news, he's going to have a way bigger role there and is going to play under chief Olli Jokinen. I think he'll start with a Big Mac burger and then points will come.
 

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Good move for both parties, Koivunen did what Aatu was supposed to.

Though if Mustonen continues as #1C this makes no sense at all.
 

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Could be better for him in the long run. We'll see how it goes with Jukurit. That team at least is bad enough for a large role. Although, Mustonen was Kärpät's #1C and he's hardly irreplaceable, one would have to think. He's just a 4th liner after all.
 
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