Confirmed Trade: [BUF/MIN] Jordan Greenway for 2023 2nd round pick and 2024 5th round pick

[Mickey the mouse]

Greenway is extremely lazy and already 26 years old. He won't change his habits and that's why I think it was wise of Guerin to get rid off of him while he still held some value.

Granato also coached Greenway at NTDP for 2 years so he knows what he's getting

 

[57special]

i said "decent" as in he can keep up in a game. he looks awkward but he's not slow and he doesn't fall any more than anyone else. There's a reason he collects a lot of dump-ins.

I don’t agree that he falls the same as any other player. He falls WAY more. It’s quite common to see him fall while trying to take a corner at high speed, for instance. Far more than most players that I see.

It’s either technique, conditioning, or a combination thereof. He’s got work to do.

 

[Barnaby]

hes a lottery ticket. if he puts it together in buffalo this is a steal. if not oh well. worth the risk imo. i dont think minny gives him up if they didnt put themselves in cap hell.

2nd round picks shouldn’t warrant overpaid lottery tickets.

 

[dirtydanglez]

2nd round picks shouldn’t warrant overpaid lottery tickets.

lol that's what draft picks are

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

2nd round picks shouldn’t warrant overpaid lottery tickets.

2nd round picks are lottery tickets.

 

[Dirty Dog]

2nd round picks shouldn’t warrant overpaid lottery tickets.

Yea. An NHLer with multiple good seasons is WAY more a lottery ticket than a 2nd rounder.

That might be the most HF post I have ever seen!

 

[rynryn]

I don’t agree that he falls the same as any other player. He falls WAY more. It’s quite common to see him fall while trying to take a corner at high speed, for instance. Far more than most players that I see.

It’s either technique, conditioning, or a combination thereof. He’s got work to do.

i guess i haven't noticed it, and at any rate he's still been very good in his specific role as the chase guy for that line's dump-ins so i can't be much of an issue.

 

[Gabrielor]

2nd round picks are lottery tickets.

Especially in the 50s/60s

 

[218Hockey]

I don’t agree that he falls the same as any other player. He falls WAY more. It’s quite common to see him fall while trying to take a corner at high speed, for instance. Far more than most players that I see.

It’s either technique, conditioning, or a combination thereof. He’s got work to do.

I agree with 57. It’s shocking how much this big man is always falling down.

 

[DustyZ]

Always leary when a division leading, or competing for division leading, team feels they need to move on from a player.

Should give Buffalo fans pause

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Always leary when a division leading, or competing for division leading, team feels they need to move on from a player.

Should give Buffalo fans pause

Like players they waive??

 

[Dirty Dog]

Always leary when a division leading, or competing for division leading, team feels they need to move on from a player.

Should give Buffalo fans pause

The Sabres picked up a regular in Jost from Minnesota this year off waivers. A lot of things he did in Minnesota he does not do in Buffalo.

Sometimes players need a change of scenery. Sometimes they just need to be a different system.

 

[Chainshot]

Sometimes a trade is the kick in the ass someone needs at a point in their career when they need a change in habits. Same with being waived - it's a shock and sometimes it works out. Clearly if Greenway was up to his previous standard, he probably isn't available and the Wild would have looked in another direction to get some cap flexibility to improve their roster. As it stands, he gets a fresh start, Minnesota got futures and the immediate ability to bring in Klingberg. The risk is to Buffalo to see if they can get Greenway back to previous form and to Minnesota to turn the picks into something via the draft. Seems like everyone gets what they wanted.

 

[57special]

The Sabres picked up a regular in Jost from Minnesota this year off waivers. A lot of things he did in Minnesota he does not do in Buffalo.

Sometimes players need a change of scenery. Sometimes they just need to be a different system.

Jost was just a nothing of a player. Not bad, not good...just ineffectual. Greenway is different. He has already shown that he can be a far more effective player in previous years. Has to work on his consistency, and dedication to being a pro. When he's good he sticks out, even though he will never be a big scorer.

I think Jost tried, just didn't have much to offer beyond what many AHL'ers have. if he wasn't a 10 oa pick, i think he would've been out of the league a while ago, or never be given a chance. If he is working out for BUF, that's great. would be interested to hear what exactly he is doing that makes him valuable. Sam Steel is the same player, essentially. Good guy, tries hard, just doesn't do much of anything that makes him valuable.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Jost was just a nothing of a player. Not bad, not good...just ineffectual. Greenway is different. He has already shown that he can be a far more effective player in previous years. Has to work on his consistency, and dedication to being a pro. When he's good he sticks out, even though he will never be a big scorer.

I think Jost tried, just didn't have much to offer beyond what many AHL'ers have. if he wasn't a 10 oa pick, i think he would've been out of the league a while ago, or never be given a chance. If he is working out for BUF, that's great. would be interested to hear what exactly he is doing that makes him valuable. Sam Steel is the same player, essentially. Good guy, tries hard, just doesn't do much of anything that makes him valuable.

Jost has been a high motor, great fundamental player for us. Just plays the game solid and creates space/opportunity with effort. Don’t get me wrong, probably not a long term player for us, BUT has played at about a 10-12 goals, 30-35 point pace for us…which you can do worst for a 4th liner

 

[CupInSIX]

Especially in the 50s/60s

You could draft a Latendresse with that.

 

[Spurgeon]

I never thought Greenway was a particularly good skater. Kind of out of control on his skates, imho.

He looks like a baby giraffe on skates. It’s not graceful.

I think his biggest problem is conditioning. He tires quickly and it’s noticeable. There’s brief stretches where he looks unstoppable and then it doesn’t emerge again the rest of the game.

 

[Gabrielor]

You could draft a Latendresse with that.

Only if you're trading up lol

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Jost has been a high motor, great fundamental player for us. Just plays the game solid and creates space/opportunity with effort. Don’t get me wrong, probably not a long term player for us, BUT has played at about a 10-12 goals, 30-35 point pace for us…which you can do worst for a 4th liner

You probably wouldn't mind acquiring any of the Wild forwards in the next few years in that case, that pretty much describes how all of our depth plays. Jost was just the smallest, and slowest of the bunch.

 

[57special]

You probably wouldn't mind acquiring any of the Wild forwards in the next few years in that case, that pretty much describes how all of our depth plays. Jost was just the smallest, and slowest of the bunch.

Well, Dewar and Shaw are smaller. Tougher, though.

 

[Man of Principles]

Let Granato work his magic on him. He fixed Mittelstadt, a task seen impossible by many. If Granato can coax the confidence back out of this kid he could be a force.

 

[valet]

Jost was just a nothing of a player. Not bad, not good...just ineffectual. Greenway is different. He has already shown that he can be a far more effective player in previous years. Has to work on his consistency, and dedication to being a pro. When he's good he sticks out, even though he will never be a big scorer.

I think Jost tried, just didn't have much to offer beyond what many AHL'ers have. if he wasn't a 10 oa pick, i think he would've been out of the league a while ago, or never be given a chance. If he is working out for BUF, that's great. would be interested to hear what exactly he is doing that makes him valuable. Sam Steel is the same player, essentially. Good guy, tries hard, just doesn't do much of anything that makes him valuable.

maybe it just wasn’t a good situation for him in minny, lack of chemistry, not being used properly by the coaching staff, etc. i think he’s been a key member of the bottom 6 here in buffalo. and it’s not like we are the abjectly bad team we were in years past. he is making very useful contributions in a checking roll, with pretty good offensive production…

 

[Ace]

The Sabres picked up a regular in Jost from Minnesota this year off waivers. A lot of things he did in Minnesota he does not do in Buffalo.

Sometimes players need a change of scenery. Sometimes they just need to be a different system.

@Chainshot has a chart that shows how it went in Minny and how it’s going in Buffalo for Jost.

let’s just say if the same thing happens to Greenway people in Buffalo are going to be pretty damn happy with the trade

Sometimes it’s the system.

 

[Chainshot]

@Chainshot has a chart that shows how it went in Minny and how it’s going in Buffalo for Jost.

let’s just say if the same thing happens to Greenway people in Buffalo are going to be pretty damn happy with the trade

Sometimes it’s the system.

Not mine, just borrowed from Twitter:

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Granato also coached Greenway at NTDP for 2 years so he knows what he's getting

I remember this line of thinking when the Pens got Brassard who Sullivan was Assistant Coach to, Big Game Brass as it were. Didn't stop him from misusing him when he turned head coach on the Pens.

Sometimes it works and sometimes it's disastrous is what I'm getting at. I wouldn't bet it is a forgone conclusion he will be used that same way that worked then, now.