Confirmed Signing with Link: [BUF] Jack Eichel Extension (8 years AAV $10M)

[WillTheThrill]

Not even 3 pages in and Leafs fans have already turned it into a Matthews thread.

Matthews is next to get one of these huge deals. All leaf fans were waiting to see what Eichel got so we can guess at what Matthews will get.

 

[These Are The Days]

Yeah, its too bad we can't all lock in our stars on contracts that are blatantly circumventing the cap like the penguins.

Ah the good old days.

 

[TT1]

I also think McDavid makes a **** ton of money, too. This all started with those Toews and Kane contracts a couple years back, but this is just what's going to happen from now on.

Toews and Kane won 3 cups before they got their payday.. they proved their worth by being studs in the playoffs. What has Eichel proven? McDavid is McDavid, when you watch him play you can obviously tell he's a top 2 forward in the league.

Yes you can tell Eichel is a good player as well but you can't see a clear separation between him and a lot of other good forwards in the league.

 

[These Are The Days]

I seriously cannot believe people have a problem with Eichel making up to $10 million a year. He's arguably the top talent in the league behind only McDavid and Crosby. What the heck is wrong with you?

 

[MacOfNiagara]

If the Sabres are ever going to the promised land, it will be Eichel that leads them there.

Pay that man his money.

No problem at all with that term and number for Jack

 

[mintmint]

Wow.

Seems large.

That's what she didn't say

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Congrats Sabres fans!

 

[Paulinvancouver]

Well done Buffalo!!

 

[HavlatMach9]

I also think McDavid makes a **** ton of money, too. This all started with those Toews and Kane contracts a couple years back, but this is just what's going to happen from now on.

mcdavid makes what he's worth no?

 

[Empoleon877130]

Toews and Kane won 3 cups before they got their payday.. they proved their worth by being studs in the playoffs. What has Eichel proven?

My point was that Toews and Kane shot up the values of contracts when they took $10.5 million each. I feel like for before that, Ovechkin's contract was really the peak for every player, that was still true for right after the lockout when you couldn't have those backdiving contracts anymore. But then Toews and Kane got their deals, then other top end players like Kopitar and Benn started hitting $9.5 million or $10 million and then McDavid blew them all away at $12.5 million.

Nope. That is the cost of not having the ability to circumvent the cap like the Crosby contract.

Crosby didn't have a circumnavigating contract, though. He had a backdiving contract, but he's still making $3 million a year in his last 3 years of his contract. It's not like Zetterberg, who's signed until 2050 while making $2 a year.

mcdavid makes what he's worth no?

I don't think McDavid is overpaid, but McDavid certainly didn't give Edmonton a hometown discount when he signed. Like I'm comparing him to what guys like Benn and Malkin make, who are guys who did take less to stay with their current teams IMO. Same thing Toews and Kane did, they got Chicago their cups, so in return Chicago gave them their money.

 

[Aladyyn]

ITT: people not understanding that signing a contract based on what a player is going to be is much better than paying him based on what he used to be

 

[Puckstuff]

Toews and Kane won 3 cups before they got their payday.. they proved their worth by being studs in the playoffs. What has Eichel proven?

Yet there isn't a single person that would take Toews or even Kane and there contracts over Eichel. It's actually pretty dumb to give huge term and dollars to players approaching 30. Eichel at 10 million is probably fair value for what they are going to get

edit - Aladyn is bang on

 

[shaner8989]

Matthews will get 11 now

 

[leafsfan1234]

Makes Draisaitl's contract look like a steal... Guess their hands were tied given how over hyped this player is.

 

[Menzinger]

If you Adjust toews/Kane RFA deals today's cap/dollar it would be worth about 8.5ish million if they signed it in 2027, so they hardly gave their team a huge deal

 

[Guffman]

ITT: people not understanding that signing a contract based on what a player is going to be is much better than paying him based on what he used to be

Hope he lives up to your expectations. Seems rather pricey, especially considering all the RFA years the contract covers.

 

[The Macho King]

That's what franchise players are going to get now. Congrats on getting paid Jack. I bet it was a tough negotiation - I hear that GM is a hard ass.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Should get as much as McDavid.

 

[TheMule93]

Didn't see this coming so soon, good for him.

 

[TT1]

Yet there isn't a single person that would take Toews or even Kane and there contracts over Eichel. It's actually pretty dumb to give huge term and dollars to players approaching 30. Eichel at 10 million is probably fair value for what they are going to get

edit - Aladyn is bang on

I feel like NA players tend to get overpaid compared to Europeans (minus Kopitar, he's a special case). Is there that big of a difference between Draisaitl and Eichel? Is Kucherov (who in my eyes is a top 5 forward in the league) going to get paid over 11M when he becomes a UFA? Highly doubtful.

 

[Pi]

Makes Draisaitl's contract look like a steal... Guess their hands were tied given how over hyped this player is.

Eichel isn’t overhyped. In fact I’d say he’s underhyped because he’s on a bad team. If he’s healthy, he’s going to put up 80+ points.

 

[Voodoo Child]

I don't think you can say that for a franchise player, 10.25 million instead of 9 million is somehow a devastating overpayment.

A difference of 1.25 million a year isn't really worth risking a guy they hope will be a top 5 center in the league. Sabres think they have a HOF level center, so it doesn't surprise me that they're paying him. Most of his prime years are in this contract.

1.25 million is like barely a replacement level forward. It's not like they paid him 12 or something, the deal is good - not great, you maybe would like to see a little more, but why quibble over a mil a year? You get an Eichel, you're damn right you pay him.

Naturally this looks a lot better if the Sabres can get out from under the Bogosian and Moulson deals.

 

[sabrebuild]

My point was that Toews and Kane shot up the values of contracts when they took $10.5 million each. I feel like for before that, Ovechkin's contract was really the peak for every player, that was still true for right after the lockout when you couldn't have those backdiving contracts anymore. But then Toews and Kane got their deals, then other top end players like Kopitar and Benn started hitting $9.5 million or $10 million and then McDavid blew them all away at $12.5 million.


Crosby didn't have a circumnavigating contract, though. He had a backdiving contract, but he's still making $3 million a year in his last 3 years of his contract. It's not like Zetterberg, who's signed until 2050 while making $2 a year.



I don't think McDavid is overpaid, but McDavid certainly didn't give Edmonton a hometown discount when he signed. Like I'm comparing him to what guys like Benn and Malkin make, who are guys who did take less to stay with their current teams IMO. Same thing Toews and Kane did, they got Chicago their cups, so in return Chicago gave them their money.

Not for nothing, but you do realize that Crosby and Malkin got deals worth more of the cap at the same age as Eichel. The actual dollars are irrelevant.

 

[PiggySmalls]

Buffalo should be happy with that AAV. Term is obvious. Great signing.

 

[Aladyyn]

I feel like NA players tend to get overpaid compared to europeans (minus Kopitar, he's a special case). Is there that big of a difference between Draisaitl and Eichel? Is Kucherov (who in my eyes is a top 5 forward in the league) going to get paid over 11M when he becomes a UFA? Highly doubtful.

Yes, Kucherov will gets tons and tons of money when his contract is up. And yes, there is that big of a difference between Drai and Eichel.