Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals II

[mjhfb]

Yeah, unfortunately, his trade value is very low.

The Bruins should just chalk up Senyshyn to overthinking the obvious and move on.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

People talking about Lucic again. I think year is 2018, not 2011.

 

[compan]

I wonder after Thursday's game if we could do the following (I'm prepared to get peppered because I'm a Looch fan)
Milan Lucic 50% retained + Ryan Strome
for
David Backes and Danton Heinen/Ryan Donato

We bring back a popular player who adds size and toughness to our line up for 3 million/season and who has been the last real player to show insane chemistry with Krejci plus we address our 3C issue over the next two seasons and let the kids develop. Strome could learn a lot from Bergeron and I feel be a really effective 3C

Oilers get out of Lucic's contract and take on a slightly shorter one in Backes who's real money owed plus the retention from Lucic's is basically a wash. The key piece for them is they get Heinen/Donato who are young up and coming wingers who can play with Drais and really help drive that 2nd line.

What exactly do we get out of this besides a slight savings on the cap? We give up the two best players in the deal to get Lucic back?

 

[Fenian24]

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I would. I would even dump senyshyn for sam Bennett. Jake virtanen.

Sam Bennett solves the third line center issue for years to come, provides grit and leadership and may still have some room for offensive improvement. I can't see Calgary making that deal. I wold do Virtanen for Senyshyn, Senyshyn is trying to round out his game and become what Virtanen is now, a fast, physical player who can pop an occasional goal. Senyshyn's value could be at an all time low right now, not sure if you would get anything for him. They may have to accept the fact that he is never going to be more than a 4th line speedy wing at best. Hopefully management has had a talk with him about fitting this roll and becoming more physical and a forechecker as opposed to being a scorer. Get something out of him even if it turn out to be a bigger Accairi.

 

[Dizzay]

But they get LOOOOOOOCH back so it's obvious a winning trade.

Honestly, I'm not a crazy follower of Lucic anymore and I'm a realist, I know he regressed last season like crazy but I hate David Backes so much. He created a problem for us in that he gets paid 6m a season and he's largely ineffective at Center and a huge waste of cap space for the 4th line. If we could get a 3C, rid ourself of Backes and get some muscle up front in a different type of deal, I'd be all for it.

@compan I guess we're entitled to our own opinions, I just don't think Backes is good at all, I think we get more out of a guy like Lucic than him. I also think Strome could be something, we have a lot of kids and outside of Studnicka, I wasn't overly impressed with the other two. I am not an idiot an gonna say the kids at center are busts because they are that, just kids, but I think they're 1-2 years away from making an NHL impact so we need someone on our 3C thats not named Kuraly.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Honestly, I'm not a crazy follower of Lucic anymore and I'm a realist, I know he regressed last season like crazy but I hate David Backes so much. He created a problem for us in that he gets paid 6m a season and he's largely ineffective at Center and a huge waste of cap space for the 4th line. If we could get a 3C, rid ourself of Backes and get some muscle up front in a different type of deal, I'd be all for it.

@compan I guess we're entitled to our own opinions, I just don't think Backes is good at all, I think we get more out of a guy like Lucic than him. I also think Strome could be something, we have a lot of kids and outside of Studnicka, I wasn't overly impressed with the other two. I am not an idiot an gonna say the kids at center are busts because they are that, just kids, but I think they're 1-2 years away from making an NHL impact so we need someone on our 3C thats not named Kuraly.

Backes’s best stretches were at center but for some reason Cassidy refused to play him there for more than a handful of games. Cassidy just said Backes was plan C for 3C. Makes no sense to me that a guy like Kuraly would be ahead of Backes who’s played center his whole career. Now that he’s centering the third line he already looks better than he has at wing IMO. Let’s give him more than 2 games this time to see what he can do.

 

[Fenian24]

What exactly do we get out of this besides a slight savings on the cap? We give up the two best players in the deal to get Lucic back?

You get a number three center with speed, you get some size and muscle with Lucic at 3m which is an ok contract. I love David Backes, part of it is his off ice charity work with dogs but I remember him in st louis and have always liked him. I think he may still be a good player but Cassidy needs to say "this is your roll, go do it for the rest of the year". Heinen is a possible over payment, Donato needs time in the minors, he looks lost right now. He could develop into a smaller, less physical Mantha or he could become Vatrano.

If giving up Heinen or Donato I wold look for a better return but that may cost more cap space.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

But they get LOOOOOOOCH back so it's obvious a winning trade.

Yea, only if they also get a time machine. Because THAT LOOOOOOCH hasn't been seen for many years.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Yea, only if they also get a time machine. Because THAT LOOOOOOCH hasn't been seen for many years.

Exactly. Its just bruins fans wanting something that isn’t there anymore.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

You get a number three center with speed, you get some size and muscle with Lucic at 3m which is an ok contract. I love David Backes, part of it is his off ice charity work with dogs but I remember him in st louis and have always liked him. I think he may still be a good player but Cassidy needs to say "this is your roll, go do it for the rest of the year". Heinen is a possible over payment, Donato needs time in the minors, he looks lost right now. He could develop into a smaller, less physical Mantha or he could become Vatrano.

If giving up Heinen or Donato I wold look for a better return but that may cost more cap space.

I would have no issue with the B’s acquiring Bennett. Fast, physical, has some skill. Like him a lot better than Strome to be honest.

I wouldn’t give up Heinen, Bjork, or Donato for him. I would give up Cehlarik + or Senyshyn +, but don’t think it would get it done.

 

[Dr Hook]

Exactly. Its just bruins fans wanting something that isn’t there anymore.

And people think David Backes is slow . . .

 

[slim399]

Nylander played a lot of C last year. If you trade Debrusk for a RW for that 2nd line you just shuffle your needs and now you need a LW for that 2nd line.

Nylander for Krug is interesting. I would be trading for him to be play Center. Fills big needs for both teams. Would be tough exchanging big time players in the division but these two teams have traded in the past (Kessel and Kaberle)

Makes the offense super deep and we keep the D we have now which hasn't be horrible the past two games. Plus we have Vaak, Lauzon and Zboril very close.

Marchand-Bergeron-Bjork
Donato-Nylander-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Cehlarik
Heinen-Kuraly-Backes

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Nylander for Krug is interesting. I would be trading for him to be play Center. Fills big needs for both teams. Would be tough exchanging big time players in the division but these two teams have traded in the past (Kessel and Kaberle)

Makes the offense super deep and we keep the D we have now which hasn't be horrible the past two games. Plus we have Vaak, Lauzon and Zboril very close.

Marchand-Bergeron-Bjork
Donato-Nylander-Pastrnak
Debrusk-Krejci-Cehlarik
Heinen-Kuraly-Backes

I can't see Toronto accepting Krug for Nylander. I think they'd want Carlo at least

 

[Fenian24]

I would have no issue with the B’s acquiring Bennett. Fast, physical, has some skill. Like him a lot better than Strome to be honest.

I wouldn’t give up Heinen, Bjork, or Donato for him. I would give up Cehlarik + or Senyshyn +, but don’t think it would get it done.

I like Bennett better than Strome, even though I still think Strome has a higher offensive potential. What about Cehlarik and Senyshyn for Bennett, I still don't believe it would get it done as Calgary is in a win now mode or at least would want NHL ready players back but if you could do that I think it would be a good trade. senyshyn is quickly looking more depth forward than impact forward and Cehlarik would get a start with an organization that may provide him with more of an opportunity than Boston has, although I do like having him around for depth.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Yea, only if they also get a time machine. Because THAT LOOOOOOCH hasn't been seen for many years.

to be fair, he's only 1 year removed from it.

2015-16: 20-35-55, 244 hits
2016-17: 23-27-50, 202 hits

and is still one of the top 2 fighters in the league.

last year, yeah he looked really slow and bad. fell off a cliff bad.

 

[UncleRico]

And people think David Backes is slow . . .

Lucic and backes are both dreadfully slow at this point in their careers. Best case scenario neither of them would be on this team, but we are stuck with backes at $6 mil per year for the next 3 years. Backes has 11 points in his last 34 NHL games played including playoffs.

And last year among all skaters with at least 20 games played for the Bruins, Bruins goalies had the worst even strength save percentage with Backes on the ice.

 

[LFG19]

What about picking up/trading for Jan Kovar, was a decent KHL centre. Dropped from the islanders, couldn't beat out Nelson (fair enough).

 

[LFG19]

Also there's this great tweet:

 

[The don godfather]

I would package zboril senyshyn and even offer a 1 st round pick to get a nice third line center. Or I was thinking maybe a senyshyn for ryan strome from Edmonton . He's struggling and maybe he will find his game here. Senyshyn is really worrying me. Cut our losses now. He has a little value.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I would package zboril senyshyn and even offer a 1 st round pick to get a nice third line center. Or I was thinking maybe a senyshyn for ryan strome from Edmonton . He's struggling and maybe he will find his game here. Senyshyn is really worrying me. Cut our losses now. He has a little value.

I hate these posts. Cut our losses now. Get out of here. Also what a trash waste of players. All that for a 3rd line center?? Vomit.

 

[pkunit]

I hate these posts. Cut our losses now. Get out of here. Also what a trash waste of players. All that for a 3rd line center?? Vomit.

You never make any trade proposals here. Are you some kind of self appointed expert?

Chara Senyshyn for Nylander.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

You never make any trade proposals here. Are you some kind of self appointed expert?

Chara Senyshyn for Nylander.

This isn't serious, right?

 

[easton117]

I hate these posts. Cut our losses now. Get out of here. Also what a trash waste of players. All that for a 3rd line center?? Vomit.

I don’t think he’d completely wrong. Maybe just ahead of the curve a bit.

I could see Senyshyn moved at any time really. At this point he’s a body in the system. Like a Leivo in Toronto. Basically worth nothing.

That said I’d like them to wait at least another pro year. If he’s showing no inclination towards at the very least pushing for a roster spot next year in September than ya sure. See if another team has their own project that might need a new message and make a swap.

I do agree on the trade with you though. Let’s not be shipping out 1st rounders for 3rd liners. Surely the bar has been set a little higher than that

 

[pkunit]

This isn't serious, right?

What's the question?

 

[Blowfish]

Perhaps bruins keep an eye on Western teams with higher than average GA for a swap in D for O? For example, the hawks could use some D. DeBrincat (yes another bruin Barzal like pass) plays right wing and playing well.