Seravalli: Bruins may need to move on from Frederic due to cap reasons.

[BronxBruin]

BTW, just yesterday Seravelli wrote this: Mackenzie Blackwood, Jesse Puljujarvi among RFAs who might not receive qualifying offers this offseason

It doesn't say Frederic won't be qualified, it says Frederic could be too expensive and therefore is a trade candidate. Two very different things.

 

[Over the volcano]

BTW, just yesterday Seravelli wrote this: Mackenzie Blackwood, Jesse Puljujarvi among RFAs who might not receive qualifying offers this offseason

It doesn't say Frederic won't be qualified, it says Frederic could be too expensive and therefore is a trade candidate. Two very different things.

That makes a whole lot more sense

 

[BKarchitect]

His production was probably out of line with his actual impact. His 17 goals were on a shooting percentage far greater than his average and his PDO was super high. The Bruins utilized him in 4th line ice time and got good 3rd line counting stats. I don’t blame them for not wanting to pay based on the 17 goals. That’s not who he is probably going to be moving forward. Useful bottom six player but not a guy you (or especially the Bruins) want to overpay.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Swayman + Carlo + Frederic

Quite the package - Edmonton should kick tires.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The same reason CBJ just traded for Severson. The same reason any team trades for a pending UFA. Because they covet the player and don't want to risk losing him to another team.

The Jackets traded a 3rd for Severson, and Severson is a top-4 D.

I can see a sign and trade with Frederic, but it's going to not be anything notable. They might get back like a 5th or 6th in that type of deal.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

He's cooked. Had dozens of concussions and he's worthless if he's not physical.

 

[Thechozen1]

Jets should have interest. They need more of this style of player. Would probably get more development opportunities on the Jets.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Vancouver needs a 3C, good chance Vancouver is all over him.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He's cooked. Had dozens of concussions and he's worthless if he's not physical.

Stats wise he doesn't seem to hit a lot.

Only play 5 playoff games and didn't throw many hits.

Was he hurt, or just not that good ?

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Wouldn't be thrilled with seeing him go for nothing. Frederic has both a die hard fandom of guys who love "DA GRIT" and also has people who constantly make him out to be the scapegoat.

He's shown wonderful flashes of being a possession guy similar to Coyle, he's not an abortion defensively, and he has an underrated shot. His decision making is also very questionable at times. I think at worst, he's a solid 4th liner, but he could be a decent 3rd liner depending on where a new team may place him.

We'll see what happens.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Verhaeghe 2.0?

Probably more like Lazar

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Stats wise he doesn't seem to hit a lot.

Only play 5 playoff games and didn't throw many hits.

Was he hurt, or just not that good ?

He's really not a big hitter. When he's on, he's using his body to make possession plays. The less he tries to be some big, hardo tough guy the better. Otherwise, he's embarassing himself more often than not against guys not named Brandon Tanev.

 

[Givememoneyback]

He isn't guaranteed to win the arbitration award. They'll likely settle for a number in between.

If he's not qualified, arbitration isn't a thing.

 

[LeProspector]

I imagine he’ll be a valuable commodity in free agency if true. Type of bottom-6 guy teams love.

 

[tomd]

If he's not qualified, arbitration isn't a thing.

I understand but I suspect he will be qualified.

 

[Givememoneyback]

I understand but I suspect he will be qualified.

Ok. Just responding to the wording of the original post. Even with arbitration, I don't think he'd get money the Bruins should walk away from.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He's cooked. Had dozens of concussions and he's worthless if he's not physical.

Dozens of concussions? he wouldn't be able to feed himself, let alone play if that were true.

 

[BronxBruin]

The Jackets traded a 3rd for Severson, and Severson is a top-4 D.

I can see a sign and trade with Frederic, but it's going to not be anything notable. They might get back like a 5th or 6th in that type of deal.

Curtis Lazar, 28, a pending UFA who had 5 points, was just traded for a 4th rounder at the trade deadline.

Trent Frederic, 25, a pending RFA who had 17 goals, is going to get a 5th or 6th?

Makes sense....

 

[Empoleon8771]

Curtis Lazar, 28, a pending UFA who had 5 points, was just traded for a 4th rounder at the trade deadline.

Trent Frederic, 25, a pending RFA who had 17 goals, is going to get a 5th or 6th?

Makes sense....

Comparing the prices of a rental versus the prices of a pending UFA is astronomically stupid.

 

[BronxBruin]

Comparing the prices of a rental versus the prices of a pending UFA is astronomically stupid.

How much do you want to wager that if Frederic is not a Bruin on opening day, he nets them more than a 5th? I'll gladly send you my Venmo to see who is astronomically stupid in this situation. Name your price.

 

[I am Bettman]

Does Seravelli have any sources that have told him this? Or is this just him saying what he thinks might happen? If it’s the latter, then his statements have as much weight as anything of hfboards.

 

[Ghetty Green]

Exactly what LA needs

 

[BHD]

Aside from the supposed contract for Bertuzzi, what has the Bruins in such a crunch?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Comparing the prices of a rental versus the prices of a pending UFA is astronomically stupid.

Not when it involves Lazar vs Frederic.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

As much as I like what Fred brings at times, he has plenty of games where I have no idea what he’s bringing at all. Unfortunately, his postseason resume so far is entirely the latter.

Wouldn’t mind keeping him, but really not broken up about seeing him go.

I do think they need to make sure they’ve got at least one guy who can do damage if need be throwing fists. No idea who that’ll be.

Aside from the supposed contract for Bertuzzi, what has the Bruins in such a crunch?

Like everything else.