Rumor: Bruins/Colorado getting serious about a deal?

[Brent Burns Beard]

This thread is some kind of usual nonsense.

Landeskog is better than Hall, even when he is having a down season.

COL should keep their captain, I don't see any reason to trade 1 of their few bonafide assets.

 

[nmbr_24]

This thread is some kind of usual nonsense.

Landeskog is better than Hall, even when he is having a down season.

COL should keep their captain, I don't see any reason to trade 1 of their few bonafide assets.

You don't see any reason but apparently the Colorado management does since they are the ones who put it out there that these players are available.

They are lacking in some areas and want to improve those areas, apparently they feel that they can sacrifice one of their top three forwards to improve in another area.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Duchene, Landeskog, 2017 1st for Bergeron+Carlo

 

[ON3M4N]

Duchene, Landeskog, 2017 1st for Bergeron+Carlo

Ummmm no?

Why would Boston trade Patrice Bergeron?

 

[AvalancheFan19]

Ummmm no?

Why would Boston trade Patrice Bergeron?

Why would we trade for a 31 year old lol.

 

[sirmaxalot]

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Why would we trade for a 31 year old lol.

Bergeron is a timeless/ageless warrior-god that these two players should spend their careers trying to emulate and hope to, at best, become 1/3 the player he is!

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I'm sorry for shouting. I came in hot there.

 

[Ice Crusher]

His fight card.
His inability to create offense.

Two reasons I don't see that being the case. I remember fondly the time he pissed himself after starting crap with Lucic. Some power forward.

If Carlo somehow goes the other way, "steal" is not going to be a common phrase from Bruins fans.

hahaha these typical fan that always bash the other team's player but once he's on their team..."He's awesome, he's the best, he's untouchable blah blah blah. I never said I didn't like him. I always wanted him on my team to replace Lucic. What a steal of a deal by the Bruins."

We actually heard the same crap with O'Reilly. Buffalo fans saying he's overated, hes not worth 7.5M, he isn't a team player because of his demands, never put up more than 60 pts, he's never going to bring you Zadorov in a deal...blah blah blah. Do you see them whine about him now?

 

[cgf]

*38

Landeskog has 23 points in 44 games, a 0.5227 ppg. There's 28 games left for the Avs. At 0.5227 ppg, Landeskog is on pace for another 14.6 points in those 28 games, which I think we can round up to 15. 23+15=38 points in 72 games.

Which is ~43pt pace over 82 games.

PS I like how you dodged the bulk of my post.

 

[Montecristo]

Any concern over landeskog a goal scoring totals trending down the last few years?

 

[ON3M4N]

Any concern over landeskog a goal scoring totals trending down the last few years?

On the surface it might look bad, but factoring in the games played it's minimal...

.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP
.32 G/GP
.28 G/GP
.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP

Its been a slow decline, but how much is him and how much is the team? Is he taking less shots? Is he taking lower quality shots?

 

[Stories]

On the surface it might look bad, but factoring in the games played it's minimal...

.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP
.32 G/GP
.28 G/GP
.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP

Its been a slow decline, but how much is him and how much is the team? Is he taking less shots? Is he taking lower quality shots?

I know. Our team sucks. A lot.

 

[ON3M4N]

I know. Our team sucks. A lot.

Honestly I don't think COL is in bad shape. They should 100% trade Duchene to get defensive help, but I'd keep Landeskog and build around him and the rest of the younger guys.

 

[McYoungGuns]

This thread is some kind of usual nonsense.

Landeskog is better than Hall, even when he is having a down season.

COL should keep their captain, I don't see any reason to trade 1 of their few bonafide assets.

Halls career high is 80 points and Landeskog is 65, better than him , even when he's having a down season??? Hahah keep those homer glasses on bud

 

[wintersej]

On the surface it might look bad, but factoring in the games played it's minimal...

.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP
.32 G/GP
.28 G/GP
.27 G/GP
.25 G/GP

Its been a slow decline, but how much is him and how much is the team? Is he taking less shots? Is he taking lower quality shots?

I mean, there is the clear outlier in there, moving between .25 and .28 is fine. What is clear, though, is that he hasn't gotten that much better over time. Sure, he is taking fewer pointless shots and more high quality shots than earlier in his career... and you could argue that if the team still had the talent they had when he started (RoR and Stastny) maybe you see more improvement in the numbers... but, he certainly has less value today than he did 3 or 4 years ago. He can be the 3rd to 5th best forward on a contending team. He would fall somewhere in that range on the Bruins. Is that worth a guy who projects as the #3D of a contending team? AND some plusses? And with the salary differences? That's a tough pill to swallow.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

hahaha these typical fan that always bash the other team's player but once he's on their team..."He's awesome, he's the best, he's untouchable blah blah blah. I never said I didn't like him. I always wanted him on my team to replace Lucic. What a steal of a deal by the Bruins."

We actually heard the same crap with O'Reilly. Buffalo fans saying he's overated, hes not worth 7.5M, he isn't a team player because of his demands, never put up more than 60 pts, he's never going to bring you Zadorov in a deal...blah blah blah. Do you see them whine about him now?

I took it from Colorado fans themselves who said he doesn't create his own offense.

I can't imagine a scenario where I'd ever speak your "quote".

 

[Foppberg]

It's funny, I really hope these talks fall apart and we keep Landeskog, yet Bruins fans probably feel the same way about Carlo.

 

[ON3M4N]

I mean, there is the clear outlier in there, moving between .25 and .28 is fine. What is clear, though, is that he hasn't gotten that much better over time. Sure, he is taking fewer pointless shots and more high quality shots than earlier in his career... and you could argue that if the team still had the talent they had when he started (RoR and Stastny) maybe you see more improvement in the numbers... but, he certainly has less value today than he did 3 or 4 years ago. He can be the 3rd to 5th best forward on a contending team. He would fall somewhere in that range on the Bruins. Is that worth a guy who projects as the #3D of a contending team? AND some plusses? And with the salary differences? That's a tough pill to swallow.

That's the thing you know w/ Landeskog you'll get a 20/30 guy that plays a 200ft game. For Carlo you still don't know what he's going to be. Could he be a top pairing guy? maybe, could be a 2nd pairing, could be a 3rd pairing. You'd imagine his development would trend upwards, but you would have thought the same thing about Landeskog, right?

 

[ON3M4N]

It's funny, I really hope these talks fall apart and we keep Landeskog, yet Bruins fans probably feel the same way about Carlo.

That's the feeling I get too lol.

 

[nmbr_24]

It's funny, I really hope these talks fall apart and we keep Landeskog, yet Bruins fans probably feel the same way about Carlo.

I think that really has been clear since the start of the thread. The Bruins just need Carlo more than a winger and then there would be more added on top of that, it just doesn't make sense unless the Bruins are immediately replacing him with a big defensive presence who also can move the puck and handle pressure in all situations. I just don't see any of those kind of defensemen being available so I don't know who they would replace him with but they would probably have to trade Landeskog to get him.

 

[wintersej]

That's the thing you know w/ Landeskog you'll get a 20/30 guy that plays a 200ft game. For Carlo you still don't know what he's going to be. Could he be a top pairing guy? maybe, could be a 2nd pairing, could be a 3rd pairing. You'd imagine his development would trend upwards, but you would have thought the same thing about Landeskog, right?

He would have to regress to be bottom pairing, which I don't think is super likely, but, sure, you have to account for that possibility. Can't disagree with the rest of the post.

 

[northeastern]

Duchene, Landeskog, 2017 1st for Bergeron+Carlo

Bergeron isn't moving.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

It's funny, I really hope these talks fall apart and we keep Landeskog, yet Bruins fans probably feel the same way about Carlo.

At this point, I agree.

 

[chet1926]

This thread is some kind of usual nonsense.

Landeskog is better than Hall, even when he is having a down season.

COL should keep their captain, I don't see any reason to trade 1 of their few bonafide assets.

I'm not sure any Avs fans are claiming Landeskog is better than Hall. And if they are that is kind of stupid.

That being said Landeskog is a quality player having a down season, on the worst team since the expansion Atlanta Thrashers. Landeskog is a very consistent player over his career and I expect him to be at about his career numbers going forward after he escapes this dumpster fire of a team, that has killed all of our players stats.

He will return a very decent package if/when he is traded.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That's the thing you know w/ Landeskog you'll get a 20/30 guy that plays a 200ft game. For Carlo you still don't know what he's going to be. Could he be a top pairing guy? maybe, could be a 2nd pairing, could be a 3rd pairing. You'd imagine his development would trend upwards, but you would have thought the same thing about Landeskog, right?

If I remember correctly Landeskog is exactly as advertised at the draft, a good two way guy, physical, a leader.

 

[Superlative Soup]

This thread is some kind of usual nonsense.

Landeskog is better than Hall, even when he is having a down season.

COL should keep their captain, I don't see any reason to trade 1 of their few bonafide assets.

Delicious irony