Brassard vs Matt Carle vs Weber

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by CRAZY_FAN, Aug 25, 2006.

  1. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    If you are in a pool and you are about to use a pick on one of those guys, who would you want based on offensive potential only. Keep in mind that D and forward are two distinct position that needs to be filled, I cannot only dress forwards, I need 12 forwards and 6 D.
     
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2006
  2. Squeaky

    Squeaky Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2004
    Messages:
    3,195
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Toronto
    I'd go with the forward, if you're talking purely points and such.
     
  3. Talent Analyst

    Talent Analyst Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,159
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    100th years
    Brassard for me .
     
  4. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    Well in my case d-man are important also. I know they make less points but it's like comparing Niedermayer to Briere, I know Briere does more points, but Niedermayer would be the obvious choice here. Basically if lets say Carle become a 50 pts D-man is value would be comparable to a 80 pts forward in my case.
     
  5. Stealth JD

    Stealth JD You're Sicilian huh?

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    11,106
    Likes Received:
    568
    Trophy Points:
    170
    Location:
    Bonita Springs, FL
    so .... you're asking who will be the better pro?

    I'd say Shea Weber.
     
  6. Pax Macioretty

    Pax Macioretty Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    18,226
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Location:
    hockey city
    Home Page:
    what kind of thread is this, a forward vs 2 defensmen?:dunno:
     
  7. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2002
    Messages:
    1,577
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Home Page:
    Never been in a hockey pool?

    Depends on the format of your pool, I guess. How many D do you dress/pick and how many forwards?
     
  8. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    12 forwards and 6 D. I have no obvious need so I want the BPA. Only points counts. Maybe this thread should be move to the Fantasy thread.
     
  9. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    I see thread like this one all the time:dunno: , when people make a top 50 do they seperate D and Forward:dunno:
     
  10. Heat McManus

    Heat McManus Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2003
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Alexandria, VA
    well based on offensive potential you would think the foward would win out. Espescially one with such highly touted skills.
     
  11. phillyflyer

    phillyflyer Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    Messages:
    88
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    fireman
    Location:
    ottawa
    what a ridiculous thread

    If you want to compare prospect offensive potential, please at least use same positions....

    weber will be a beast
     
  12. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2002
    Messages:
    1,577
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Home Page:
    I'd say it's a toss-up between Weber and Brassard. The one good thing about Weber is that he's going to be in a good position to learn from some very good offensive D this year. Bad thing is that he's stuck behind them. :)
     
  13. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    Ok so if I follow your great advise I will never compare Niedremayer or Lidstrom to a Forsberg or Jagr, thats really helpful if your in a pool...:shakehead
    Just ignore the thread if you think its so hard.
     
  14. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    Thanks, I was leaning toward Brassard but everything I read on Carle seems to say he will be a great offensive D...How many points can we expect from them at their peak?
     
  15. NashisCash

    NashisCash Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    654
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Pro Scout
    Location:
    Peterboreough
    I don't know what these guys are telling you, but if 50 points is going to make a dman more important than an 80 point forward in your league, I would say you have to take Carle.

    Carle has a very good chance of hitting 40 points this year, and could hit 60 + in the next few years. Brassard is at least 1-2 years away from the NHL. Carle, and it's a no brainer.
     
  16. The voice of reason. NashisCash is dead-on.

    12 forwards and 6 defensemen? Sounds more like a defenseman-based league, where the blueliners have a lot of fantasy value. Carle may not be as good a player as Weber, but he's a great bet to make an offensive impact from the blueline in the NHL, and relatively soon.

    Carle in this situation. No-brainer.
     
  17. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    Exactly, if Carle projection stats are close to 60+ points then is value would be really big in my pool. I have Pitkanen and I would not trade him away for a 80 points forward.
     
  18. pooler99

    pooler99 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2002
    Messages:
    665
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Krynn
    Home Page:
    same here :cry: :cry: you'll skyrocket his stock
     
  19. Holy crap, Pitkanen in your league is ridiculously valuable...

    If this is a keeper league, Pitkanen is a player you trade for almost no one under this format.
     
  20. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    The best D can compare to the best forward. Let's say you have Lidstrom in your team he gives you the same kind of production of a Jagr, Thornton. Pitkanen would be close to Eric Staal, Kovalchuk I would say...And you are right since it is a keeper league a guy like Pitkanen is even harder to trade considering is age.
     
  21. Trust me, man...don't trade Pitkanen unless you get an offer that BLOWS YOU AWAY, maybe by a Flyers homer in your league or something.

    Sounds like you have a good handle on your situation, so good luck, my friend. :handclap:
     
  22. Defense_1st

    Defense_1st Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Wpg,Canada
    I am also in a keeper pool where you need 6 d men and 12 fwds.....i have 8 d men that i have been building on I would definetley take the D man over Brassard , especially if it is Weber or Carle.Both are great young D men and will play right away.More reliable probably Weber better upside right away most likely Carle.
    I would take Carle....and check out my name!
     
  23. CRAZY_FAN

    CRAZY_FAN Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2002
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    121
    Location:
    Québec
    Home Page:
    Thanks for your help guys, really appreciated. I will go with Carle.
     
  24. icandobetter

    icandobetter Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Messages:
    2,188
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    chico
    definately Carle, I watched him played all his NHL games and the kid is quick learner with wicked shot..
     
  25. Blades of Glory

    Blades of Glory Troll Captain

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    18,401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Investment banker
    Location:
    California
    I'd pick Carle just for the fact that he'll get a lot of PP time on a PP that includes Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, and Jonathan Cheechoo (though on two diff. lines).
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"