Boychuk, Dalpe, Bowman, and other prospects that didn't pan out

[bluedevil58]

Igor Knytstev. What happens to that Russian dman we drafted real early?

 

[MinJaBen]

"Oh no! Russians never get a fair shot in Carolina! They better draft Zadina!"

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Functionally, we can all just ignore this league and check the final results in June.

The story is the only reason we’re here.

Fair enough. But some stories are interesting, you know? In the end, this kid just wasn't very good, and that's the story.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Fair enough. But some stories are interesting, you know? In the end, this kid just wasn't very good, and that's the story.

I don’t think anyone feels differently about his prospects as a pro hockey player.

What people want to know is, why did he just walk off the team he’s played for the past 3 years? That bears some explanation

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

This is how it went down.

"ST: Hey coach, is there any chance I'm going to see the ice in the playoffs?

MV: Sorry Sergey, but unless we get a couple of injuries, you're in the press box.

ST: C'mon, I've been working hard in practice, all I need is a chance. I've got better numbers than Gauthier, Brown and Bishop.

MV: Well, playoffs is tough, physical hockey and I need those guys in the line-up.

ST: This f***ing sucks. I should have signed with the Rangers instead.

MV: You know, if you don't like it, there's the door, don't let it hit you on the way out. "

 

[geehaad]

He’s been scratched for a while now, I’m guessing this end eventually became mutually preferred.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I don’t think anyone feels differently about his prospects as a pro hockey player.

What people want to know is, why did he just walk off the team he’s played for the past 3 years? That bears some explanation

Why, though? He was pretty clearly done and pretty clearly not contributing. It just doesn't seem like any big mystery. He was like "play me or lose me forever" and they were like "bye Felicia." Like no one much cared or even noticed.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why, though? He was pretty clearly done and pretty clearly not contributing. It just doesn't seem like any big mystery. He was like "play me or lose me forever" and they were like "bye Felicia." Like no one much cared or even noticed.

That's how I see it. It was probably mutual. Many years ago, in my very first management job, I had this person in my group that from day 1 kept telling me that if I didn't promote them soon, they were gone. Became a serious point of contention as this person felt ever move I made was someone impacting their ability to get promoted and I couldn't wait for that person to change jobs as they told me repeatedly they were going to. One day, they came into my office and said they wanted to apply for a different job within the company and what should they put down as an availability date. Being a young, new manager full of piss and vinegar, I quickly responded without thinking: "How about tomorrow?" Probably not the best answer to give, but it was true.

Sergey has probably already made it know that he won't be back with the Canes organization next year. The coach has no use for him right now, he's not helping the team right now, and the Vellucci knows he won't be back, so I'm guessing it was probably a mutual parting.

 

[RodTheBawd]

"The Vellucci".

 

[bluedevil58]

"Oh no! Russians never get a fair shot in Carolina! They better draft Zadina!"

I am curious as to what the story was behind him and we he never laced up as a Cane. I honestly forget.

 

[MinJaBen]

I am curious as to what the story was behind him and we he never laced up as a Cane. I honestly forget.

He played a couple games in garbage time a few years ago. Didn't look bad, got a couple of points. But by the time the next year rolled around, others had jumped ahead of him on the depth chart. It is the song of the AHL.

 

[tarheelhockey]

He played a couple games in garbage time a few years ago. Didn't look bad, got a couple of points. But by the time the next year rolled around, others had jumped ahead of him on the depth chart. It is the song of the AHL.

He's a tiny, puck-dangling winger. Which is fine if you're putting up serious offensive numbers, but brings almost nothing to the table if you're scoring at the same rate as a much more well rounded player.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Fair enough. But some stories are interesting, you know? In the end, this kid just wasn't very good, and that's the story.

You are a Hurricanes fan. What interesting stories are you talking about?

[MOD]

 

[HisIceness]

Well, I guess we can add Saalera to the list.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Well, I guess we can add Saalera to the list.

Dundon prefers to give his employees from the Deep South a _______ instead of a contract.

 

[HisIceness]

BBQ sandwich.

 

[A Star is Burns]

BBQ sandwich.

I think BBQ sandwich panned out pretty well all things considered. I am rite and u r wrong.

 

[HisIceness]

He wasn't saucy enough

 

[Drivebytrucker]

I think it's hilarious that no matter who you are , we were all united in the fact that Phillipe Paradis was a terrible 1st round pick and would never amount to anything.

Gauthier and Roy probably are never going to turn out either.

Something about the Q......

 

[cptjeff]

I think it's hilarious that no matter who you are , we were all united in the fact that Phillipe Paradis was a terrible 1st round pick and would never amount to anything.

Gauthier and Roy probably are never going to turn out either.

Something about the Q......

I still think Gauthier has something to show. He'll never be an impact scoring guy, but he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th liner, perhaps even one of those guys who surprises you by just staying in the league forever despite never leaving the 4th line, a la Craig Adams.

Roy of course I've never been hot on. I've harped on my problems with prospects with significant skating issues more than enough, so I won't go back into it again today.

Pardais- I think everyone was expecting us to take Ryan O'Reilly. Woof. Admittedly, I also remember a lot of Landon Ferraro talk, and he also turned out to be nothing. He's the guy that Canes reject Nordstrom beat out as the Bruins 4th line Center.

 

[Canes]

I think it's hilarious that no matter who you are , we were all united in the fact that Phillipe Paradis was a terrible 1st round pick and would never amount to anything.

Gauthier and Roy probably are never going to turn out either.

Something about the Q......

The average Q player is probably worse than the average player in the OHL or WHL. But they still pump out some good players, though half seem to be imports or players from the Maritimes. I think their elite players are just as good as top players from the OHL, WHL, USNTDP, but it's hard to tell how good their subelite guys are.

 

[emptyNedder]

I still think Gauthier has something to show. He'll never be an impact scoring guy, but he could be a serviceable 3rd/4th liner

I wouldn't even rule out him being a 20-25 goal scorer in the NHL. From a size and skill standpoint he is quite similar to Mantha. Thus far his development has been fairly close as well.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I wouldn't even rule out him being a 20-25 goal scorer in the NHL. From a size and skill standpoint he is quite similar to Mantha. Thus far his development has been fairly close as well.

Yes, I agree. The only difference IMO is organizational depth. Though I will say that Detroit did a good job in not rushing Mantha into the league when he wasn't ready.

Also, not ready to write off Roy and Saarela yet. They and Carrick just got traded to teams with much shallower prospect pools, where they can easily make names for themselves if they work extra hard at it. Not all successful NHL careers begin with the teams that originally drafted them. This is a very extreme example considering that he was 3rd overall, but look at Dylan Strome in Chicago.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While there’s always a chance, I wonder how many players finally break into the NHL 7 years after being drafted (ignoring players that stay in Europe/ KHL). Could be wrong, but it just seems like Carrick is a career AHLr that will be in Europe eventually.

Saarela and Roy probably have a shot. Roy has skating issues, but is big, smart, and physical. He could catch on as a bottom six guy in the right circumstances. Saarela has the shot, but two teams have moved him without much hesitation. Have to think this is his last chance.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

While there’s always a chance, I wonder how many players finally break into the NHL 7 years after being drafted (ignoring players that stay in Europe/ KHL). Could be wrong, but it just seems like Carrick is a career AHLr that will be in Europe eventually.

Saarela and Roy probably have a shot. Roy has skating issues, but is big, smart, and physical. He could catch on as a bottom six guy in the right circumstances. Saarela has the shot, but two teams have moved him without much hesitation. Have to think this is his last chance.

The big one that I can think of is PA Parenteau. For a more recent example, Yanni Gourde was also a 25 year old rookie. One of the biggest reasons why I think Carrick could be a solid NHLer is because like Parenteau, he is highly productive in the minors but was jammed in deep farm systems. I totally could see him flourishing in a bottom-pairing role in SJ.