Rumor: Blackhawks working on Keith trade

[Toews2Bickell]

have a feeling that if its vancouver the only way stan would ever ask keith to waive his nmc is if jim benning mentioned possibility they would trade their 1st in a deal if stan takes on the eriksson contract, benning did say he wants to add a top 4 defenseman i believe

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

have a feeling that if its vancouver the only way stan would ever ask keith to waive his nmc is if jim benning mentioned possibility they would trade their 1st in a deal if stan takes on the eriksson contract, benning did say he wants to add a top 4 defenseman i believe

Eriksson only has 1 year left while Keith has 2.

If Keith goes to Vancouver I think it will be Keith for Eriksson straight up.

 

[Drumman44]

What's the usual time that needs to pass before a Friedman "rumbling" turns into trade details?

 

[Sinistril]

have a feeling that if its vancouver the only way stan would ever ask keith to waive his nmc is if jim benning mentioned possibility they would trade their 1st in a deal if stan takes on the eriksson contract, benning did say he wants to add a top 4 defenseman i believe

Even Benning isn't that dumb. Eriksson will be a buyout

 

[Mrfenn92]

He’s earned this right, but damn this would suck

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Even Benning isn't that dumb

if keith wants out then thats one thing, if he never asked to be moved then i have to imagine stan was given a proposal he has to pursue because the value is too good

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Benning absolutely is that dumb.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Even Benning isn't that dumb. Eriksson will be a buyout

Keith holds all the cards. For all we know he might be saying "Get me to Vancouver" because that's where his son lives.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Eriksson only has 1 year left while Keith has 2.

If Keith goes to Vancouver I think it will be Keith for Eriksson straight up.

no shot, keith is still a good player, they could retain 50% on him at deadline and net a nice return...send him to any playoff team and hes playing 30 a night when games really matter, hes still a really good hockey player, if the hawks give him away its a mistake, he should have a huge market given his term and aav, its just a matter of working around his nmc

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

no shot, keith is still a good player, they could retain 50% on him at deadline and net a nice return...send him to any playoff team and hes playing 30 a night when games really matter, hes still a really good hockey player, if the hawks give him away its a mistake, he should have a huge market given his term and aav, its just a matter of working around his nmc

The perception around non-Hawk fans is that he's cooked.

 

[RayP]

The perception around non-Hawk fans is that he's cooked.

Good thing GMs exactly like Benning exist. He’s clueless. Probably still thinks Keith is Norris caliber.

 

[JaegerDice]

 

[Toews2Bickell]

The perception around non-Hawk fans is that he's cooked.

jeff carter returned a 3rd round pick and he was also considered done, keith is not done, the guy is in fantastic shape still and still has his best attribute which is his skating

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

How much is because he's being overexposed on a bad team though?

 

[Drumman44]

How much is because he's being overexposed on a bad team though?

Probably quite a bit. But going to 99th percentile to the basement is still not good

 

[Toews2Bickell]

just switched agent yesterday...

 

[Hawkaholic]

jeff carter returned a 3rd round pick and he was also considered done, keith is not done, the guy is in fantastic shape still and still has his best attribute which is his skating

Keith is as "done" as Carter. Both are still NHLers, but not worth their cap hit.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

guy played with erik gustafsson and a mixed bag of rookies for multiple years...no surprise his numbers are down from when he played in a top 4 with prime seabs, hammer and oduya

 

[JaegerDice]

How much is because he's being overexposed on a bad team though?

Dude, he’s dropped from the 99th percentile to barely replacement-level. If team quality had that much of an impact, you’d literally never see a good defensive performance on a bad team.

 

[JaegerDice]

guy played with erik gustafsson and a mixed bag of rookies for multiple years...no surprise his numbers are down from when he played in a top 4 with prime seabs, hammer and oduya

Have you considered the inverse of your argument? The logical extension of this position is that Duncan Keith only ever put up strong stats because he played with good players. That he is a product of his environment first and foremost.

I personally dont believe that. I believe he simply, finally got old.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Dude, he’s dropped from the 99th percentile to barely replacement-level. If team quality had that much of an impact, you’d literally never see a good defensive performance on a bad team.

They are very rare

 

[Styles]

Just mutually terminate his contract and let him sign where he wants. He's done enough for the organization.

 

[Sinistril]

no shot, keith is still a good player, they could retain 50% on him at deadline and net a nice return...send him to any playoff team and hes playing 30 a night when games really matter, hes still a really good hockey player, if the hawks give him away its a mistake, he should have a huge market given his term and aav, its just a matter of working around his nmc

I was under the impression he is asking for a specific destination to be closer to his son, not for a trade at the deadline to wherever. Doesn't he have a NMC?

 

[RayP]

Just mutually terminate his contract and let him sign where he wants. He's done enough for the organization.

I forgot the last two years of his deal are pretty low in terms of actual cash being paid to him. Like 2-3M total I think.


So yeah, do this if he can make some more $$$$ as a thank you to him.

 

[Drumman44]

I don't see this getting done until after the expansion draft. Unless it's swapping a NMC player for a NMC player