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Tryblot

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Because between four people out of many he only chose them instead of actually limited choices.

Judging by your response it sounds like you're okay with Jackson potentially having his life and reputation completely ruined for making a game decision that made sense for him at the time but things are being blown out of proportion by saying she was willing to vote out her ally because of race has some racist connotations behind it.
 

Pinkfloyd

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Judging by your response it sounds like you're okay with Jackson potentially having his life and reputation completely ruined for making a game decision that made sense for him at the time but things are being blown out of proportion by saying she was willing to vote out her ally because of race has some racist connotations behind it.

I don't think Jackson's choices were some big deal to make a huge stink about but there are clear differences in the two situations. There's no point trying to draw a false equivalence.
 

Tryblot

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I don't think Jackson's choices were some big deal to make a huge stink about but there are clear differences in the two situations. There's no point trying to draw a false equivalence.

Yeah there are some clear differences; one was racism and one wasn't but the wrong one was accused of racism while the other won America's favourite houseguest.
 

Tryblot

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Except you've got them exactly backwards.

You serious? Putting up the first 4 people who opposed you in the first week of the season when you have nothing else to go on is racist but someone telling their ally they aren't keeping them because of skin colour isn't?

There's no reason to go any further with this. We have completely different view points.
 

TheBeastCoast

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There was absolutely nothing racist about what Jackson did in that season and the sad part is while they were in the process of literally calling him a racist....they couldn't actually provide any video evidence. I would have walked out that door and told Julie to go f*** herself after that lol. Whole Davonne thing whether you want to call it racist or not she is ignorant and a hypocrite 100%.
 

Pinkfloyd

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You serious? Putting up the first 4 people who opposed you in the first week of the season when you have nothing else to go on is racist but someone telling their ally they aren't keeping them because of skin colour isn't?

There's no reason to go any further with this. We have completely different view points.

Jackson already excluded them before anything happened based on that. He did that just because that was natural to him rather than actual strategy and goals. Jackson had numerous opportunities to ally with them because it’s not a static game and didn’t. Day had that choice between two likely allies and made her choice based on what she wanted out of the game rather than an actual belief that her race is better. Jackson has that internalized and you just want to pretend it doesn’t exist.
 

dahrougem2

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Jackson already excluded them before anything happened based on that. He did that just because that was natural to him rather than actual strategy and goals. Jackson had numerous opportunities to ally with them because it’s not a static game and didn’t. Day had that choice between two likely allies and made her choice based on what she wanted out of the game rather than an actual belief that her race is better. Jackson has that internalized and you just want to pretend it doesn’t exist.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh no chance in hell is that true.

Da'Vonne 100% believes her race is better.
 

dahrougem2

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Prove it.
Dude, I can literally use your argument in your previous post about "having numerous opportunities to align".

Da'Vonne had numerous opportunities to align with Nicole A instead of David to further her game. She chose to turn it into a racially-motivated decision that had nothing to do with the game.
 

Pinkfloyd

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Dude, I can literally use your argument in your previous post about "having numerous opportunities to align".

Da'Vonne had numerous opportunities to align with Nicole A instead of David to further her game. She chose to turn it into a racially-motivated decision that had nothing to do with the game.

You actually can't because Da'Vonne actually did align herself with people like Tyler at various points in the game. Jackson didn't and actually targeted all of them from the get go. Yes, Da'Vonne's decision was racially motivated but that doesn't make it racist.
 

dahrougem2

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You actually can't because Da'Vonne actually did align herself with people like Tyler at various points in the game. Jackson didn't and actually targeted all of them from the get go. Yes, Da'Vonne's decision was racially motivated but that doesn't make it racist.
It 100% makes it ignorant and borderline racist.
 

Pinkfloyd

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It honestly seems like you have an agenda. Jackson was aligned with Bella, who was a minority.

It seems like you do too so what does that matter? His alignment with Bella was only due to his alignment with Nick. Jackson never gave a shit about Bella. He only didn't treat her like he typically treated the other women on that show because of that alignment with Nick. All you're trying to do is help draw a false equivalence because of some silly victim complex.
 
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Pinkfloyd

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Actually, it's you that isn't understanding them.

Not really. You've already pretty much admitted that something racially motivated is ignorant and racist. That simply isn't the case so it's whatever. You want to continue to be wrong, that's your problem to deal with.
 

dahrougem2

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Not really. You've already pretty much admitted that something racially motivated is ignorant and racist. That simply isn't the case so it's whatever. You want to continue to be wrong, that's your problem to deal with.
Yeah man, and if you want to continue to be wrong, that's your problem to deal with.

Do you see how easy it is to tell others they're wrong?
 

Pinkfloyd

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Yeah man, and if you want to continue to be wrong, that's your problem to deal with.

Do you see how easy it is to tell others they're wrong?

Except words have definitions that are easy to look up and show one way or the other and it doesn't look good for you, buddy. lol
 

dahrougem2

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Except words have definitions that are easy to look up and show one way or the other and it doesn't look good for you, buddy. lol
"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

The word "typically" here is key, because it doesn't always have to be that way. Da'Vonne voting against Nicole because she isn't black is literally textbook definition here.

But please, keep making yourself look like an utter fool.
 

Pinkfloyd

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"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

The word "typically" here is key, because it doesn't always have to be that way. Da'Vonne voting against Nicole because she isn't black is literally textbook definition here.

But please, keep making yourself look like an utter fool.

Yeah, that just shows that you're reaching for that interpretation because you have your own agenda on this. Plain and simple.
 

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