Better career - Scheifele vs Trouba vs Ehlers

[truck]

I voted Ehlers because he is an elite talent.

Trouba was my second option.

This isn't because I am down on Scheifele. I like Scheifele a lot, but the other two still have elite potential IMO.

 

[robertocarlos]

The fight last night sealed it. Kid is out-standing.

 

[CaptainChef]

He needs to stop playing with Stu. Unfortunately it appears that his only chance of that is a trade.

Yep, Maurice in his wisdom reunites the anchor. Good way to keep Trouba`s value rock bottom or to accomplish the soft tank I suppose

 

[Daximus]

I think Ehlers has the highest ceiling. Scheif then Trouba.

To me it looks like

Ehlers - 30g-40a - 70+ point elite winger.
Scheifele - 50-65 point Mediocre 1C, very very good 2C.
Trouba - 20-30 point solid all around top 4 defencemen. Would make an excellent partner to a truly franchise or elite defencemen.

 

[garret9]

Just some visuals to help people become more informed to choose...

Ehlers' and Scheifele's rookie seasons:

Keep in mind that Ehlers is a year younger and further back in his age curve.

Trouba's rookie season and also season at Scheifele's rookie season age:

 

[puck stoppa]

Ehlers, Scheif, Trouba. Ehlers is special. Scheif is the captain here in five years. Trouba is a good dman but Im just skeptical that he can be a true number one RHD.

 

[Jetty]

Ehlers without a question if he keeps working like a maniac during the off season. Schiefele will be a solid player/character in the dressing room will wear the C. Trouba hasn't shown he is willing to go all in during the off season so he will never reach his full potential.

 

[Koonta]

hopefully it will be a tough choice as all three will have outstanding careers (fingers crossed). Picked Scheifele because he if he turns out to be the big, dominating #1C then could have the greatest impact. Ehlers will be the most exciting of the three though.

 

[GJF]

Just some visuals to help people become more informed to choose...

Ehlers' and Scheifele's rookie seasons:

Keep in mind that Ehlers is a year younger and further back in his age curve.

Those charts really look like Scheifele and Ehlers are perfect linemates for now and the next 5+ years. The thought of

Connor - Scheifele - Ehlers

as our first line really makes me happy.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I feel like we've seen the best we're going to see out of Trouba. He'll have flashes of greatness but I don't feel like we're going to see a #1 defenseman there.

Schiefele still has room to improve, so I could easily see him pulling off 50+ point seasons for the next 4-5 years for sure... if he stays healthy.

Ehlers will likely be a top 30 forward in the league when he peaks, which isn't for a few seasons yet.

I agree with this assessment.

I'm probably one of the few that doesn't really see what everyone else sees in Trouba. He had a good first year as a rookie, but as been pretty bland since then, even when paired with someone good. Unless something happens soon with him, I think we're seeing what he is. I'm honestly not convinced that he's really as motivated as he should be.

Schief is going to (continue to) be a very good 2nd line C, but I have hope for a little more simply because of his work ethic.

Ehlers has vision, skating and hands that are very high end.... in his first season.... at 19.... coming straight from junior.

 

[Flair Hay]

They are all about equal I think. Ehlers looks like he could be the best at his position, but Scheifele plays the most important position and Trouba has a pretty high floor to work with.

Ehlers has to develop a better game along the walls if he's ever going to be that 70 point player we hope he can be.

Scheifele can be the Krejci of our team I think where he's good at whatever role you use him in if he has good wingers.

Trouba just needs to get back to training the way Scheifele is in the off-season and I suspect he will go right back to looking like the top pairing guy we all think we have.

 

[Grind]

I agree with this assessment.

I'm probably one of the few that doesn't really see what everyone else sees in Trouba. He had a good first year as a rookie, but as been pretty bland since then, even when paired with someone good. Unless something happens soon with him, I think we're seeing what he is. I'm honestly not convinced that he's really as motivated as he should be....

I will generally agree with the motivated issue. Agree isn't the right word, but I guess accept. I have no way of knowing but he certainly doesn't install confidence the way Scheiefele does that he's going to get every ounce of ability out of his body.

As for the regression...it seems to be primarily visual.

Comparing all three of his seasons, last year was actually his best season for driving play.

Nik may end up being the better player, but I place more value on a defender.

According to these charts (imperfect as they are) trouba's already flirting with top pairing dman territory.

 

[JC Numminen]

Ehlers has the highest potential, Fefe is already a top 6 center. Trouba is already a top 4 D.

Still, based off his ceiling, have to take Ehlers. I'it's a good problem to have though

 

[nobody important]

Just some visuals to help people become more informed to choose...

If only informed people responded to polls, they wouldn't be much use.

 

[Howard Chuck]

I will generally agree with the motivated issue. Agree isn't the right word, but I guess accept. I have no way of knowing but he certainly doesn't install confidence the way Scheiefele does that he's going to get every ounce of ability out of his body.

As for the regression...it seems to be primarily visual.

Comparing all three of his seasons, last year was actually his best season for driving play.

Nik may end up being the better player, but I place more value on a defender.

According to these charts (imperfect as they are) trouba's already flirting with top pairing dman territory.

Good representation of the 3 years. I certainly wouldn't have put those numbers together from watching alone. I appreciate the comparison.

 

[truck]

I will generally agree with the motivated issue. Agree isn't the right word, but I guess accept. I have no way of knowing but he certainly doesn't install confidence the way Scheiefele does that he's going to get every ounce of ability out of his body.

As for the regression...it seems to be primarily visual.

Comparing all three of his seasons, last year was actually his best season for driving play.

Nik may end up being the better player, but I place more value on a defender.

According to these charts (imperfect as they are) trouba's already flirting with top pairing dman territory.

All this despite Mark Stuart. Neither prime Chara or Byfuglien could carry Stu into the plus. Trouba did last year. He's good at hockey.

 

[Derfel*]

Requested in another thread (where it is off-topic):

 

[pegjets]

I think Scheifele & Ehlers seem to have the work ethic required to take them to the next level. In raw talent, Ehlers seems to exceed both Scheif and Trouba.

That said, way too early to make even a reasonable prediction.

 

[Daximus]

Requested in another thread (where it is off-topic):

Wow very close. I'd give the nod to Trouba though. He still has more time to develop his game.

 

[Evil Little]

Hamonic at the same age as Trouba (relative to their draft years):

 

[Daximus]

Hamonic at the same age as Trouba (relative to their draft years):

I wonder how much of Trouba's CA/60 can be applied to playing with Stuart.

 

[Evil Little]

I wonder how much of Trouba's CA/60 can be applied to playing with Stuart.

That's really the $5.5 million question, isn't it?