Prospect Info: "Because it's never too early" - 2014 NHL Draft discussion

[Hank Chinaski]

Ok, so let's set some ground rules first: "Play bad for Ekblad" and "No heart for Reinhart".

I know we have plenty of prospect junkies on HF Jets, and I always enjoy following this thread.

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[StronGeer]

If we picked up Ekblad, our right side would be:

Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba
Ekblad

Oh my.

 

[wpgsilver]

Gotta start doing some research early this year.
Added pressure because Trouba made me look smrt.

On a completely unrelated note, anyone have the top 10 prospects names and a hat?

 

[JetsHomer]

Gotta start doing some research early this year.
Added pressure because Trouba made me look smrt.

On a completely unrelated note, anyone have the top 10 prospects names and a hat?

Just some names I've read over at the prospect board, but I've only ever seen Ekblad and Draisatl play, but Aaron Ekblad,Sam Rienhart, William Nylander,Leon Draisatl, Michael Dal Colle,Roland Mckowen, Sam Bennet, Kasperi Kapanen, Anton Karlsson are names off the top of my head that I've seen ranked pretty highly.

 

[garret9]

Copper and Blue take a weighted average of all the major lists and constructs one "super list" and updates it each month. They call it consensus... which pisses me off because it's an average, not a consensus... but I get angry at minor dumb details

The weighting is by historical accuracy of their lists.

August
September

Here's the most recent one and what we got to look forward to boys:

# | Name | Pos | Ht, Wt | Birthdate | Shot | Team | League | Move
1| Sam Reinhart| C| 6'1, 186| 11/6/95| R| Kootenay| WHL |0
2| Willie Nylander| F| 5'10, 163| 5/1/96| R| Sodertalje| SHL |0
3| Aaron Ekblad| D| 6'4, 213| 2/7/96| R| Barrie| OHL |0
4| Leon Draisaitl| C| 6'0, 199| 10/27/95| L| Prince Albert| WHL| 0
5| Anton Karlsson| F| 6'0, 170| 9/3/96| L| Frolunda| SHL |9
6| Sam Bennett| F| 6'0, 165| 6/20/96| L| Kingston| OHL |5
7| Jake Virtanen| F| 6'0, 199| 8/17/96| R| Calgary| WHL |6
8| Nicholas Ritchie| F| 6'3, 218| 12/5/95| L| Peterborough| OHL| -3
9| Michael Dal Colle|F| 6'2, 172| 6/20/96| L| Oshawa| OHL |-2
10| Ivan Barbashev |F| 6'0, 181| 12/14/95| L| Moncton| QMJHL| 2
11| Roland McKeown|D| 6'0, 186| 1/20/96| R| Kingston| OHL |-3
12| Haydn Fleury |D| 6'3, 202| 7/8/96| L| Red Deer| WHL |5
13| Matthew Mistele |F| 6'2, 183| 10/17/95| L| Plymouth| OHL |8
14| Kaspar Kapanen |F| 5'11, 165| 7/23/96| R| Kuopio| SML |1
15| Blake Clarke |F| 6'1, 190| 1/24/96| L| Brampton| OHL |-9
16| Jakub Vrana |F| 6'0, 183| 2/28/96| L| Linkoping| SHL |-7
17| Adrian Kempe |C| 6'2, 178| 9/13/96| L| Modo| SHL| 9
18| Jared McCann |C| 6'0, 175| 5/31/96| L| S.S. Marie| OHL| -8
19| Nick Schmaltz |F| 5'11, 158| 2/23/96| R| Green Bay| USHL| 13
20| Brycen Martin |D| 6'1, 178| 5/9/96| L| Swift Current| WHL| 3
21| Brayden Point |C| 5'9, 170| 3/13/96| R| Moose Jaw| WHL| 10
22| Jack Glover |D| 6'3, 173| 5/17/96| R| USNT |USHL| -3
23| Nikolai Goldobin |F| 5'11, 165| 10/7/95| L| Sarnia| OHL |-5
24| Oskar Lindblom |F| 6'2, 187| 8/15/96| L| Brynas| SHL |1
25| David Pastrnak |F| 5'11, 165| 5/25/96| L| Sodertalje| SHL| -3
26| Spencer Watson |F| 5'10, 165| 4/25/96| L| Kingston| OHL |1
27| Jacob Middleton |D| 6'3, 194| 1/2/96| L| Ottawa| OHL |-3
28| Joshua Ho-Sang |F| 5'11, 160| 1/22/96| R| Windsor| OHL |-12
29| Adam Ollas Mattsson|D|6'3, 194| 7/30/96| L| Djurgardens| Alls |1
30| Alexis Pepin |F| 6'2, 230| 4/22/96| L| Charlottetown| QMJHL| 8

 

[Daddy Longlegs]

Just some names I've read over at the prospect board, but I've only ever seen Ekblad and Draisatl play, but Aaron Ekblad,Sam Rienhart, William Nylander,Leon Draisatl, Michael Dal Colle,Roland Mckowen, Sam Bennet, Kasperi Kapanen, Anton Karlsson are names off the top of my head that I've seen ranked pretty highly.

Off the top of your head? Yowza!

 

[wpgsilver]

I honestly thought you were going to suggest drafting Duchene.
I just felt like thats what I was going to see when I saw you posted.

 

[truck]

Ok, so let's set some ground rules first: "Play bad for Ekblad" and "No heart for Reinhart".

I know we have plenty of prospect junkies on HF Jets, and I always enjoy following this thread.

Bed Shart for Reinhart

 

[truck]

Need a scoring forward, preferably a centre.

I really like the top 4, after that Michael Dal Colle and Sam Bennett look appealing.

I am not sure the Jets are bad enough to land Draisaitl, Reinhart or Nylander.


From The Scouting Report:
http://thescoutingreport.org/draft_rankings/2014-nhl-preliminary-draft-rankings

 

[JetsFan815]

Lots of Euros on in that first round list. Guess that means Chevy will draft someone projected to go in the second round with our 3rd overall pick?

 

[Atoyot]

Lots of Euros on in that first round list. Guess that means Chevy will draft someone projected to go in the second round with our 3rd overall pick?

Only 4 in the top 15, we should be safe.

EDIT: 5. Somehow skipped over Draisaitl. Really hope we can get him somehow, just looked amazing at the World Juniors. Can't believe he's already 200 pounds too.

 

[Huffer]

I really like these threads because I don't get a chance to see the junior guys as much as other people here do.

Can I make one request? Can we talk about more than the top 5 guys?

 

[Rheged]

So few D highly ranked early, bodes well for us drafting a forward in the first at least..

Though in retrospect I'm obviously very happy with the defencemen we ended up taking.

 

[Duke749]

I really like these threads because I don't get a chance to see the junior guys as much as other people here do.

Can I make one request? Can we talk about more than the top 5 guys?

Honestly I think we should focus on guys from around the 7-8 spot to the late teens as I think that's the most likely place we pick. Plenty of forwards to choose from. Can't fathom us taking a defenseman... again. lol

 

[Channelcat]

If we picked up Ekblad, our right side would be:

Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba
Ekblad

Oh my.

Yes, but once you establish a culture of losing it can be decades before you turn it around regardless of all the high picks.

 

[Flair Hay]

Yes, but once you establish a culture of losing it can be decades before you turn it around regardless of all the high picks.

I take it you think that's what we're doing? I feel like there's some middle ground that exists between teams with a culture of winning and teams with a culture of losing. Anyway, I already nibbled on the bait enough.

Karlsson seemed to rocket up the C&B rankings compared to truck's list. He's listed at 5'11", 165 and in the updated text it says he's already filled out to 200 lbs. Combine that with a tireless work ethic, good possession traits and good board play and I can see why. So he's my uninformed favourite for the time being!

 

[truck]

Yes, but once you establish a culture of losing it can be decades before you turn it around regardless of all the high picks.

I think that is phony bologna.

Many teams have had quick turnaround out of a losing culture, the issue is that many in management repeatedly make the same mistakes and cause setback or stick with a mistake for too long.

 

[garret9]

If we picked up Ekblad, our right side would be:

Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba
Ekblad

Oh my.

Do the Jets have the deepest RHD depth? Maybe, maybe not... but holy crap is it deeper than any other area at least for the Jets:

Byfuglien
Bogosian
Trouba
Postma
Redmond
Kichton
Kostalek
Karlstrom
Poolman
Serville

 

[wpgsilver]

Yes, but once you establish a culture of losing it can be decades before you turn it around regardless of all the high picks.

Good call took decades for Pittsburgh and Chicago.

 

[jigglysquishy]

I'll comment on Ekblad, since I've watched so much of him following Scheifele.

He's really, really good. I don't think I've ever seen as high quality defensive play from a draftee. Perfect positioning, a massive frame (6'4) and a high IQ. Last year I was saying that if he got his offense together, he'd be a star. 7 points through 10 games. Third on his team in points. And he played excellent for Canada internationally.

He's a stud.

 

[wpgsilver]

And what a beard!

 

[Atoyot]

And what a beard!

Pretty impressive.

 

[StronGeer]

Pretty impressive.

For a 17 year old no less

 

[meedle]

For a 17 year old no less

Not to sound like a downer. But could that be from steroids? Doesn't steroids cause facial hair? Sure there are people that can grow facial hair at young ages. But not many.

 

[wpgsilver]

Not to sound like a downer. But could that be from steroids? Doesn't steroids cause facial hair? Sure there are people that can grow facial hair at young ages. But not many.

Haven't heard that.
I think it's more likely high testosterone.
I'm going to assume naturally high, but I suppose it could be artificial.