Does it matter? The Bears have their QB and teams like SF, Cleveland, etc. are still looking. If the Bears end up with a high pick, we can trade out and perhaps recoup some of our picks. Remember what the Rams and the Eagles had to give up to get Goff and Wentz. Houston and KC gave up extra 1st rounders for Watson and Mahommes. The Bears gave up numerous 1st rounders for Cutler. If Pace found a franchise QB, it really doesn't matter how much he gave up. Everything was justified.
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Do you want to be SF and coming to the realization Solomon Thomas wasn't a good pick and announcing CJ Beathard as their starting QB? The only reason Beathard will throw for yards is that Shanahan has a very good offensive mind.
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Solomon Thomas isn't good?
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/1...-of-the-week-award-49ers-vs-washington-week-6
I didn't know he had actually had a good game against Washington. Until then, he stunk. In 6 games, he had 20 tackles and 2 sacks. That big game takes him to 3.3 tackles and 0.33 sacks per game. Let's see if he continues the trend.
By the way, Thomas is on track for 5 sacks this season.
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Ranking all 32 NFL defenses after Week 6
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-defenses-after-week-6
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-defenses-after-week-6
I wonder if the Bears really found something with Amos, Jackson, Callahan, and Fuller? Let's hope they keep this up.
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Reminds me of how people wrote off Floyd as a terrible pick/bust, and that's not looking so hot now.
Guys take some time to acclimate and get into their rhythm
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There's never going to be definitive evidence of a trade that didn't happen, one way or the other. So people are left to believe what they want. Teams spin things after things don't go there way. Every pick a GM makes is the guy they were hopping was going to be there after it happens.
The Browns are getting criticized because of continuously passing on QBs, not just Trubisky. It's justified.
Until Washington, I heard numerous analysts comment Thomas was invisible this year. He had a good game. However, let's not jump to conclusions that potentially losing Trubisky at #2 and picking Thomas at #3 was a big mistake. Leonard Floyd was pick #9 and had 7.0 sacks in 12 games and the jury is still out on him. What does that make Thomas?
IF Trubisky turns out to be at least a good QB, it doesn't matter that the Bears gave up 2 third round picks for him. It's well worth it.
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It's worth it.... to some degree but I think they could have got him where they were without losing a pick. I never count out any of these guys year 1 unless they have a ton of off the field problems.
Bears have been fairly competitive most of the games so it's been a surprise. I still think they miss and I'd rather they miss big for another high draft pick.
Bears have been fairly competitive most of the games so it's been a surprise. I still think they miss and I'd rather they miss big for another high draft pick.
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But every QB they drafted prior turned out to be garbage too. Most of them are no longer in the league.
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During what time frame?
Wentz looks good, Watson looks good. Jury is still out on Trubisky. And they did draft a QB in the 2nd round who's been so bad they've already benched him.
They took Manziel over Bridgewater, Carr and Grappalo.
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He has been dropping back into coverage a ton, BWC. You knew that already. And just because he's not a "game-changer" doesn't mean that it was a bust/bad pick. If he turns into an above average edge rusher and coverage LB, then I'd say the pick is fine. Do you disagree?
Blackhawkswincup
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So your saying Fangio is poor coach
Ok agree
And no I would not be happy if he turns into an above average edge rusher and coverage LB. At spot he was drafted he needs to provide more
Ok agree
And no I would not be happy if he turns into an above average edge rusher and coverage LB. At spot he was drafted he needs to provide more
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I'm meaning the pick wouldn't be a bust if that were the case. I look at a bust as someone who was picked in the 1st round and isn't a starter... or can't keep a job. Floyd is neither of those. So far I'd say the pick is fine, but he is being utilized slightly wrong, IMO. That may be more on personnel than the coaching of Fangio, too. He has limited options with the personnel they have, honestly.
Fangio has taken a team defense basically from worst to 1st(not 1st, but you know what I'm saying) over the past couple seasons. I'm fine with the improvement on D over the past couple years, and they'll continue to get better as they draft some higher defensive players. I want to see them find a game-changing wide receiver to give Mitch at least one consistent target to throw to. To me, that's the #1 priority right now.
chicagoskycam
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Why is everything have to be black or white. There are so many other things that dictate how a player performs in this league, especially a rookie.
I don't think anyone thought the Bears D would be as serviceable as it's been these past weeks. Especially with all the injuries.
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Using sacks as the sole indicator of a pass rushers ability or impact can be misleading. I think Floyd is having a nice year so far. He seems to be getting several pressures a game (I don't know the numbers) to me. I'm happy with his play.
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