Battle of Alberta

Stoneman89 · Mar 27, 2022

Gretz used to pile up points for fun against the Flamers

Xelebes · May 19, 2022

After last night:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
2	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
5	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
16	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
10	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
4	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
31	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
371	Connor McDavid	34	27	22	49
357	Leon Draisatl	38	9	39	48
136	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
328	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	49	17	25	42
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
240	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
57	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
229	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
56	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
171	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
29	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
309	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
159	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

35th place is Darnell Nurse at 15 points
46th place is Kailer Yamamoto at 11 points

and Calgary:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
43	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
71	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
180	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
96	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
14	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
29	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
68	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
83	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
80	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
2	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
56	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
109	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
326	Mikael Backlund	55	13	30	43
64	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
73	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
13	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
383	Johnny Gaudreau	41	15	22	37
290	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
3	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
101	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31

21st place is Elias Lindholm at 25 points
26th place is Matthew Tkachuk at 24 points
33rd place is Andrew Mangiapane at 20 points

noice · May 19, 2022

play Dylan Holloway game two please

Xelebes · May 21, 2022

After tonight's game:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
2	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
5	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
16	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
10	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
4	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
31	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
371	Connor McDavid	35	28	23	51
357	Leon Draisatl	39	10	41	51
136	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
328	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	50	17	26	43
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
240	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
57	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
229	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
56	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
171	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
29	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
309	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
159	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

Darnell Nurse is at 35th place at 15 points
Jesse Puljujarvi is at 39th place at 13 points

Calgary:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
43	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
71	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
180	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
96	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
14	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
29	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
68	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
83	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
80	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
2	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
56	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
109	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
326	Mikael Backlund	56	13	30	43
383	Johnny Gaudreau	42	15	24	39
64	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
73	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
13	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
290	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
3	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
101	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31

Elias Lindholm is at 21st place with 26 pints
Matthew Tkachuk is at 24th place with 25 points
Andrew Mangiapane is at 33rd place with 20 points

Xelebes · May 23, 2022

After tonight:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
2	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
5	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
16	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
10	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
4	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
357	Leon Draisatl	40	10	45	55
371	Connor McDavid	36	28	26	54
31	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
136	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
328	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	51	17	26	43
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
240	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
57	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
229	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
56	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
171	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
29	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
309	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
159	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

Darnell Nurse is in 35th place with 15 points in 35 games.
Jesse Puljujarvi is in 39th place with 13 points in 23 games

And the Flames:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
43	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
71	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
180	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
96	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
14	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
29	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
68	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
83	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
80	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
2	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
56	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
109	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
326	Mikael Backlund	57	13	30	43
383	Johnny Gaudreau	43	15	24	39
64	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
73	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
13	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
290	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
3	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
101	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31

Elias Lindholm is in 21st place with 26 points in 24 games.
Matthew Tkachuk is in 24th place with 25 points in 30 gamesé
Andrew Mangiapane is in 33rd place with 20 points in 23 games.

alanschu · May 23, 2022

What is the left most column representing now? To start it was rank but now it's something else.

Xelebes · May 23, 2022

Oops, just their index number.

Xelebes · May 25, 2022

After tonight's game:

Edmonton:

Index	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
2	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
5	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
16	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
10	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
4	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
357	Leon Draisatl	41	10	48	58
371	Connor McDavid	37	28	28	56
31	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
328	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	52	19	26	45
136	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
240	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
57	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
229	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
56	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
171	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
29	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
309	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
159	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

Next up are:

Darnell Nurse at 35th place with 15 points in 36 games.
Jesse Puljujarvi at 39th place with 13 points in 24 games
Kailer Yamamoto at 43rd place with 12 points in 22 games.
Zack Kassian at 52nd place with 10 points in 29 games.

And Calgary Flames:

Index	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
43	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
71	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
180	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
96	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
14	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
29	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
68	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
83	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
80	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
2	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
326	Mikael Backlund	58	14	30	44
56	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
109	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
383	Johnny Gaudreau	44	15	24	39
64	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
73	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
13	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
290	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
3	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
101	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31

Next up are:

Elias Lindholm at 21st place with 27 points in 25 games.
Matthew Tkachuk at 24th place with 25 points in 31 games
Andrew Mangiapane at 33rd place with 20 points in 24 games
Dilion Dube at 56th place with 12 points in 21 games
Noah Hanifin at 57th place with 12 points in 24 games

Drivesaitl · May 25, 2022

Bryanbryoil said:
Nuge ahead of Smyth and Hemsky is definitely something for him to be proud of.

I would say being so close to McDrai is as well although he's played Calgary a whole lot more games but it seems he gets up for Calgary as a Red Deer lad.

Still really impressed with Glenn Anderson 57goals. He REALLY hated and killed the Flames a lot. I mean look how many more goals he bagged than even Kurri and Mess. Anderson was also a playoff warrior.

Drivesaitl · May 25, 2022

People look at Drais goal total being so low, and really his classic cross ice one timer goal gets snuffed pretty good by the Flames, but he MURDERS the Flames with his pin point passing.

Last night Drai found Nurse on a clean jail break. Would have been another spectacular pass killing the Flames. Nurse didn't cash, good save by Markstrom. But its typical of what Drai does to the Flames. Drai's body of work against the Flames, just seems like his passing is more of a weapon against them in the specific match up.

Kind of makes sense too. Flames box in a lot, so they can snuff out some plays, but they aren't stopping Drai passes a whole lot.

Bryanbryoil · May 25, 2022

Drivesaitl said:
I would say being so close to McDrai is as well although he's played Calgary a whole lot more games but it seems he gets up for Calgary as a Red Deer lad.

Still really impressed with Glenn Anderson 57goals. He REALLY hated and killed the Flames a lot. I mean look how many more goals he bagged than even Kurri and Mess. Anderson was also a playoff warrior.

He is doing his part in this series and the 2 teams that he always seems to get up for are Calgary and Vancouver.

Xelebes · May 28, 2022

And to wrap up the series, here are the totals:

Edmonton:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
2	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
5	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
16	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
10	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
4	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
357	Leon Draisatl	42	10	52	62
371	Connor McDavid	38	29	28	57
31	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
328	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	53	19	27	46
136	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
240	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
57	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
229	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
56	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
171	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
29	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
309	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
159	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

Darnell Nurse is in 35th place with 16 points in 37 games.
Jesse Puljujarvi is in 38th place with 14 points in 25 games
Kailer Yamamoto is in 43rd place with 12 points in 23 games
Zack Kassian is in 52nd place with 10 points in 30 games

And for Calgary:

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
43	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
71	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
180	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
96	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
14	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
29	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
68	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
83	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
80	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
326	Mikael Backlund	59	15	31	46
2	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
56	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
109	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
383	Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
64	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
73	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
13	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
290	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
3	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
101	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31

Elias Lindholm is in 21st place with 27 points in 26 games
Matthew Tkachuk is in 24th place with 25 points in 37 games
Andrew Mangiapane is in 31st place with 21 points in 25 games
Dilion Dube is in 56th place with 12 points in 22 games
Noah Hanifin is in 57th place with 12 points in 25 games

Xelebes · Oct 16, 2022

New season, new battle:

Edmonton Oilers:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
Leon Draisatl	43	10	53	63
Connor McDavid	39	30	28	58
Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	54	19	27	46
Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30
Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
Ken Linseman	31	15	13	28
Randy Gregg	59	7	19	26
Mike Krushelnyski	36	11	14	25
Petr Klima	33	10	15	25

Darnell Nurse Is In 35th place with 16 points
Jesse Puljujarvi is in 38th place with 14 points
Kailer Yamamoto is in 40th place with 13 points

Calgary Flames:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
Mikael Backlund	60	16	31	47
Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
Elias Lindholm	27	18	9	27
Paul Ranheim	39	12	13	25
Dan Quinn	29	12	13	25
Matthew Tkachuk	32	11	14	25
Doug Gilmour	31	10	15	25

Andrew Mangiapane is in 31st place with 22 points.
Dilion Dube is in 53rd place with 13 points
Noah Hanifin is in 57th place with 12 points

Xelebes · Oct 30, 2022

Game 2 of Battle of Alberta, 2022-2023:

Edmonton:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
Leon Draisatl	44	10	54	64
Connor McDavid	40	31	30	61
Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	55	19	27	46
Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30
Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
Ken Linseman	31	15	13	28
Randy Gregg	59	7	19	26
Mike Krushelnyski	36	11	14	25
Petr Klima	33	10	15	25

#35: Darnell Nurse at 16 points in 39 games
#36: Jesse Puljujarvi at 16 points in 27 games
#40: Kailer Yamamoto at 13 points in 25 games
#47: Zach Hyman at 11 points in 10 games

Calgary:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
Mikael Backlund	61	17	31	48
Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
Elias Lindholm	28	18	10	28
Dan Quinn	29	12	13	25
Paul Ranheim	39	12	13	25
Matthew Tkachuk	32	11	14	25
Doug Gilmour	31	10	15	25

#30: Andrew Mangiapane at 22 points in 27 games
#53: Dilion Dube at 13 points in 24 games
#57: Noah Hanifin at 12 points in 27 games

Xelebes · Dec 28, 2022

Christmas turkey settled appropriately: light on the Oilers and heavy on the Flames.

Edmonton:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
Leon Draisatl	45	10	55	65
Connor McDavid	41	32	30	62
Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	56	19	27	46
Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30
Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
Ken Linseman	31	15	13	28
Randy Gregg	59	7	19	26
Mike Krushelnyski	36	11	14	25
Petr Klima	33	10	15	25
Kevin McClelland	55	10	14	24
Sam Gagner	41	9	15	24
Taylor Hall	25	7	16	23
Rem Murray	27	7	11	18
Steve Smith	49	4	14	18
Janne Niinimaa	27	2	16	18
Jason Arnott	20	8	9	17
Lee Fogolin	63	4	13	17
Joe Murphy	29	7	9	16
Darnell Nurse	40	5	11	16
Jesse Puljujarvi	28	9	5	14
Mike Grier	29	9	5	14
Dave Semenko	56	9	5	14
Dean McAmmond	15	4	10	14
Kailer Yamamoto	26	4	10	14
Raimo Summanen	17	2	11	13
Zach Hyman	11	8	4	12
Willy Lindstrom	26	5	7	12
Martin Gelinas	29	5	7	12
Bill Guerin	16	2	10	12
Denis Grebeshkov	18	2	10	12
Jarret Stoll	26	2	10	12
Roman Hamrlik	15	3	8	11
Boris Mironov	19	3	8	11
Jimmy Carson	9	5	5	10

Calgary:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
Mikael Backlund	62	18	31	49
Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
Elias Lindholm	29	18	10	28
Dan Quinn	29	12	13	25
Paul Ranheim	39	12	13	25
Matthew Tkachuk	32	11	14	25
Doug Gilmour	31	10	15	25
Sean Monahan	39	11	13	24
Doug Risebrough	45	7	17	24
Daymond Langkow	34	9	14	23
Phil Housley	25	8	15	23
Andrew Mangiapane	28	9	14	23
Craig Conroy	35	9	13	22
Dion Phaneuf	33	8	12	20
Alex Tanguay	28	7	13	20
John Tonelli	21	4	16	20
Eddie Beers	33	8	11	19
German Titov	24	9	9	18
Jamie Macoun	82	5	13	18
Curtis Glencross	27	10	7	17
Matt Stajan	37	5	12	17
Kari Eloranta	31	2	15	17
Matthew Lombardi	30	7	9	16
Olli Jokinen	20	2	14	16
TJ Brodie	39	2	14	16
Mel Bridgman	19	10	5	15
Rene Bourque	17	7	8	15
Kristian Huselius	20	7	8	15
Ron Stern	37	7	8	15
Mike Cammalleri	17	6	9	15
Colin Patterson	55	6	9	15
Jay Bouwmeester	19	4	11	15

Xelebes · Oct 29, 2023

After the Heritage Classic:

Edmonton:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
Leon Draisatl	46	10	57	67
Connor McDavid	42	32	31	63
Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	57	19	28	47
Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30
Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
Ken Linseman	31	15	13	28
Randy Gregg	59	7	19	26
Mike Krushelnyski	36	11	14	25
Petr Klima	33	10	15	25
Kevin McClelland	55	10	14	24
Sam Gagner	41	9	15	24
Taylor Hall	25	7	16	23
Rem Murray	27	7	11	18
Steve Smith	49	4	14	18
Janne Niinimaa	27	2	16	18
Jason Arnott	20	8	9	17
Lee Fogolin	63	4	13	17
Joe Murphy	29	7	9	16
Darnell Nurse	41	5	11	16
Jesse Puljujarvi	28	9	5	14
Mike Grier	29	9	5	14
Dave Semenko	56	9	5	14
Dean McAmmond	15	4	10	14
Kailer Yamamoto	26	4	10	14
Zach Hyman	11	8	5	13
Raimo Summanen	17	2	11	13
Willy Lindstrom	26	5	7	12
Martin Gelinas	29	5	7	12
Bill Guerin	16	2	10	12
Denis Grebeshkov	18	2	10	12
Jarret Stoll	26	2	10	12
Roman Hamrlik	15	3	8	11
Boris Mironov	19	3	8	11
Evander Kane	10	6	4	10

Calgary:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
Mikael Backlund	63	18	31	49
Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
Elias Lindholm	30	18	10	28
Dan Quinn	29	12	13	25
Paul Ranheim	39	12	13	25
Matthew Tkachuk	32	11	14	25
Doug Gilmour	31	10	15	25
Sean Monahan	39	11	13	24
Doug Risebrough	45	7	17	24
Andrew Mangiapane	29	9	14	23
Daymond Langkow	34	9	14	23
Phil Housley	25	8	15	23
Craig Conroy	35	9	13	22
Dion Phaneuf	33	8	12	20
Alex Tanguay	28	7	13	20
John Tonelli	21	4	16	20
Eddie Beers	33	8	11	19
German Titov	24	9	9	18
Jamie Macoun	82	5	13	18
Curtis Glencross	27	10	7	17
Matt Stajan	37	5	12	17
Kari Eloranta	31	2	15	17
Matthew Lombardi	30	7	9	16
Olli Jokinen	20	2	14	16
TJ Brodie	39	2	14	16
Mel Bridgman	19	10	5	15
Rene Bourque	17	7	8	15
Kristian Huselius	20	7	8	15
Ron Stern	37	7	8	15
Mike Cammalleri	17	6	9	15
Colin Patterson	55	6	9	15
Jay Bouwmeester	19	4	11	15

Jimmi McJenkins · Oct 29, 2023

Hyman owns the flames, not quite like McDrai, but he's really enjoying lighting them up

The Panther · Oct 30, 2023

One of my favorite 'Battle of Alberta' stats:

In the 1983 Edmonton/Calgary series (first playoff BOA), Flames' defenceman Paul Reinhart scored six goals in 5 games. And went minus 14.

(Also, in the 1985-86 season, Wayne Gretzky scored 24 points in 8 games vs .Calgary.)

tfwnogf · Oct 30, 2023

nice to see Kane making the list

MoneyGuy · Oct 30, 2023

Wow, Flames fans are angry. Early in the season and they want to blow it up and tank for a high draft choice. These are the same fans who vilified Oilers for allegedly purposely tanking. They have pretty much every player, coaches and management in their sights.

K1984 · Oct 30, 2023

MoneyGuy said:
Wow, Flames fans are angry. Early in the season and they want to blow it up and tank for a high draft choice. These are the same fans who vilified Oilers for allegedly purposely tanking. They have pretty much every player, coaches and management in their sights.

Best part is they don't really have a ton of shoots to pull to reload.

Hanifin and Lindholm would have a lot of value as rentals, but the Flames would probably want to think about making those decisions fairly quickly. Both were reported to be close on extensions (Friedman saying the Hanifin deal was pretty much a lock), but both would get the Flames pretty good value. I could easily see a 1st+ for both players, but that trade return vanishes if both are re-signed to big tickets.

Had they used their heads and decided to rebuild after making the Huberdeau trade, they could have dealt the following players all for at least a 1st, in some cases multiple 1sts or similar value:

- Huberdeau
- Weegar
- Lindholm
- Mangiapne

PLUS they would have had a boat load of cap room to take some bad deals off of other team's hands and accumulated more assets. Instead they might still be able to squeeze two firsts out of what is left over, but that's really it.

joestevens29 · Oct 30, 2023

K1984 said:
Best part is they don't really have a ton of shoots to pull to reload.

Hanifin and Lindholm would have a lot of value as rentals, but the Flames would probably want to think about making those decisions fairly quickly. Both were reported to be close on extensions (Friedman saying the Hanifin deal was pretty much a lock), but both would get the Flames pretty good value. I could easily see a 1st+ for both players, but that trade return vanishes if both are re-signed to big tickets.

Had they used their heads and decided to rebuild after making the Huberdeau trade, they could have dealt the following players all for at least a 1st, in some cases multiple 1sts or similar value:

- Huberdeau
- Weegar
- Lindholm
- Mangiapne

PLUS they would have had a boat load of cap room to take some bad deals off of other team's hands and accumulated more assets. Instead they might still be able to squeeze two firsts out of what is left over, but that's really it.

The other shitty thing for them is now that they are going to delay this rebuild, how much appetite is there going to be from the fans to buy tickets?

They might get one good year of ticket sales in new barn and then it'll all disappear as the team isn't any good. At least if they were started that rebuild there would be some light at the end of the tunnel and maybe get fans to stick around, but if they are heading downwards have fun

Took a pill in Sbisa · Oct 30, 2023

K1984 said:
Best part is they don't really have a ton of shoots to pull to reload.

Hanifin and Lindholm would have a lot of value as rentals, but the Flames would probably want to think about making those decisions fairly quickly. Both were reported to be close on extensions (Friedman saying the Hanifin deal was pretty much a lock), but both would get the Flames pretty good value. I could easily see a 1st+ for both players, but that trade return vanishes if both are re-signed to big tickets.

Had they used their heads and decided to rebuild after making the Huberdeau trade, they could have dealt the following players all for at least a 1st, in some cases multiple 1sts or similar value:

- Huberdeau
- Weegar
- Lindholm
- Mangiapne

PLUS they would have had a boat load of cap room to take some bad deals off of other team's hands and accumulated more assets. Instead they might still be able to squeeze two firsts out of what is left over, but that's really it.

They'd be so much better off trading their assets and going full rebuild.

Few teams have the opportunity of that many and high quality of valuable pending UFAs to be able to trade at the deadline while simultaneously not having a chance to be a contender in the same year.

Its a simple question: realistically, if everything goes right, can they win the Cup with what they have? No, imo. So why hold on to these players? They lock in their players and they end up in the same position that San Jose is in with Couture, Vlasic, Hertl and almost Karlsson.

K1984 · Oct 30, 2023

Took a pill in Sbisa said:
They'd be so much better off trading their assets and going full rebuild.

Few teams have the opportunity of that many and high quality of valuable pending UFAs to be able to trade at the deadline while simultaneously not having a chance to be a contender in the same year.

Its a simple question: realistically, if everything goes right, can they win the Cup with what they have? No, imo. So why hold on to these players?

My impression is that they seem to be in a strange headspace where they are more interested in signing these players for not much other reason than to say "see look players DO want to stay here!" They've already thrown away the chance to deal Backlund for what would have probably been a fairly decent return for no reason other than it made them feel happy that they feel wanted again.

Further entrenching a 30 year old core of Lindholm, Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, and Hanifin is setting yourself up for complete disaster, especially when Huberdeau and Kadri have already basically proven that they aren't going to come anywhere close to playing up to their deals.

Xelebes · Jan 21, 2024

New game, new update:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
Leon Draisatl	47	10	57	67
Connor McDavid	43	32	31	63
Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	58	19	29	48
Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30
Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
Ken Linseman	31	15	13	28
Randy Gregg	59	7	19	26
Mike Krushelnyski	36	11	14	25
Petr Klima	33	10	15	25
Sam Gagner	42	10	15	25
Kevin McClelland	55	10	14	24
Taylor Hall	25	7	16	23
Rem Murray	27	7	11	18
Steve Smith	49	4	14	18
Janne Niinimaa	27	2	16	18
Jason Arnott	20	8	9	17
Lee Fogolin	63	4	13	17
Joe Murphy	29	7	9	16
Darnell Nurse	42	5	11	16
Zach Hyman	12	9	5	14
Jesse Puljujarvi	28	9	5	14
Mike Grier	29	9	5	14
Dave Semenko	56	9	5	14
Dean McAmmond	15	4	10	14
Kailer Yamamoto	26	4	10	14
Raimo Summanen	17	2	11	13
Willy Lindstrom	26	5	7	12
Martin Gelinas	29	5	7	12
Bill Guerin	16	2	10	12
Denis Grebeshkov	18	2	10	12
Jarret Stoll	26	2	10	12
Roman Hamrlik	15	3	8	11
Boris Mironov	19	3	8	11
Evander Kane	11	6	4	10

And now Calgary:

Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
Mikael Backlund	64	18	31	49
Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
Johnny Gaudreau	45	16	24	40
Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
Elias Lindholm	31	18	10	28
Dan Quinn	29	12	13	25
Paul Ranheim	39	12	13	25
Matthew Tkachuk	32	11	14	25
Doug Gilmour	31	10	15	25
Sean Monahan	39	11	13	24
Doug Risebrough	45	7	17	24
Andrew Mangiapane	30	9	14	23
Daymond Langkow	34	9	14	23
Phil Housley	25	8	15	23
Craig Conroy	35	9	13	22
Dion Phaneuf	33	8	12	20
Alex Tanguay	28	7	13	20
John Tonelli	21	4	16	20
Eddie Beers	33	8	11	19
German Titov	24	9	9	18
Jamie Macoun	82	5	13	18
Curtis Glencross	27	10	7	17
Matt Stajan	37	5	12	17
Kari Eloranta	31	2	15	17
Matthew Lombardi	30	7	9	16
Olli Jokinen	20	2	14	16
TJ Brodie	39	2	14	16
Mel Bridgman	19	10	5	15
Rene Bourque	17	7	8	15
Kristian Huselius	20	7	8	15
Ron Stern	37	7	8	15
Mike Cammalleri	17	6	9	15
Colin Patterson	55	6	9	15
Jay Bouwmeester	19	4	11	15

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