Battle of Alberta

[Xelebes]

Just taking a stroll through the history of the Battle of Alberta and while it might not be as strong as it once was, it nonetheless persists. I thought it would be interesting to see how current players are comparing to prior hockey players. Taking a look, there are three current Oiler players in the top 20 of Oilers scoring. With four regular season games this year, we could see McDavid could jump from ninth to seventh, overtaking Doug Weight. If they meet in the playoffs, McDavid has a slight chance of getting into sixth and overtaking Charlie Huddy. The next current player to the top twenty is Darnell Nurse who is at 39th.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
2	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
3	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
4	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
5	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
6	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
7	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
8	Connor McDavid	31	26	17	43
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
10	Leon Draisatl	35	5	36	41
11	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
12	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
12	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
14	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
14	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	47	16	20	36
16	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
17	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
18	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
18	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
20	Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
20	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The next Oiler players in following the top 20:

Darnell Nurse, 35th at 14 points
Jesse Puljujarvi, 39th at 13 points

Taking a look at Calgary, with the departure of Giordano to Seattle, there are only two current Flames players in the top twenty and none in the top ten. That said, with four regular season games, Backlund has a slight chance of getting into the top 10, overtaking Nilson and Roberts, but much more likely if the Flames meet the Oilers in the playoffs.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
2	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
3	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
4	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
5	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
6	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
7	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
8	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
9	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
9	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
11	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
11	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
13	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
13	Mikael Backlund	52	11	28	39
15	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
15	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
17	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
18	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
19	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
20	Johnny Gaudreau	38	14	13	27

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Next players up in the Flames:

Sean Monahan, 25th at 24 points
Elias Lindholm, 30th at 20 points
Matthew Tkachuk, 39th at 16 points

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[Bryanbryoil]

Pretty cool that RNH could be top 10 in short order too. Last season definitely padded the stats with so many BOA's.

 

[Three On Zero]

Just taking a stroll through the history of the Battle of Alberta and while it might not be as strong as it once was, it nonetheless persists. I thought it would be interesting to see how current players are comparing to prior hockey players. Taking a look, there are three current Oiler players in the top 20 of Oilers scoring. With four regular season games this year, we could see McDavid could jump from ninth to seventh, overtaking Doug Weight. If they meet in the playoffs, McDavid has a slight chance of getting into sixth and overtaking Charlie Huddy. The next current player to the top twenty is Darnell Nurse who is at 39th.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
2	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
3	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
4	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
5	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
6	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
7	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
8	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
9	Connor McDavid	30	23	17	40
10	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
11	Leon Draisatl	34	5	33	38
12	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
12	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
14	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
15	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
15	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	46	16	19	35
17	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
18	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
18	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
20	Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
20	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The next Oiler players in following the top 20:

Darnell Nurse, 39th at 13 points
Jesse Puljujarvi, 53rd at 10 points

Taking a look at Calgary, with the departure of Giordano to Seattle, there are only two current Flames players in the top twenty and none in the top ten. That said, with four regular season games, Backlund has a slight chance of getting into the top 10, overtaking Nilson and Roberts, but much more likely if the Flames meet the Oilers in the playoffs.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
2	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
3	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
4	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
5	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
6	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
7	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
8	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
9	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
9	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
11	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
11	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
13	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
13	Mikael Backlund	51	11	28	39
15	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
15	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
17	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
18	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
19	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
20	Johnny Gaudreau	37	14	13	27

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Next players up in the Flames:

Sean Monahan, 25th at 24 points
Elias Lindholm, 33rd at 19 points
Matthew Tkachuk, 49th at 15 points

Good work! Interesting to see these stats even as an outsider to the BoA

 

[Fourier]

That Gretzky guy must have been pretty good!!!

Kent Nilsson was a great double agent!

 

[Cloned]

I realize Drai has trouble scoring goals against the Flames but damn. He has this mental block against them. I remember a game where he had like three breakaways and he got stopped on every one of them.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Seeing all those Calgary Flames names makes me want to toss my cookies.

 

[McJC]

I realize Drai has trouble scoring goals against the Flames but damn. He has this mental block against them. I remember a game where he had like three breakaways and he got stopped on every one of them.

Looking for Connor too much lol McDavid with a ridiculous 23 goals in only 30 games

 

[Xelebes]

Tables updated.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I realize Drai has trouble scoring goals against the Flames but damn. He has this mental block against them. I remember a game where he had like three breakaways and he got stopped on every one of them.

Just noted the same thing, and hadn't been aware of that tidbit. Still, seems like the statline is strange.

Pretty impressive tally by Glenn Anderson. 57 goals. I don't think anybody is catching that one.

In fairness the Flames are not a notable team at all. This isn't the matchup where in present time that you even have to bring your best. just another opponent.

 

[Cloned]

Just noted the same thing, and hadn't been aware of that tidbit. Still, seems like the statline is strange. Didn't he score a hat trick against the Flames once?

Don't remember tbh, I just remember the game where he had a lot of breakaways and got stopped on all of them lol.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Don't remember tbh, I just remember the game where he had a lot of breakaways and got stopped on all of them lol.

I was just checking annual splits. It looks like the totals are legit. Not that I think its any kryptonite or anything but the Flames are a team that has a tendency to cheat coverage and double team and leave openings. For Drai that makes them primo opportunities to just exploit their lapses with passes, like 3 assists tonight. Not like he's suffering for pts in the matchup. Flames are just such a nothing opponent anyway during McDrai tenure.

 

[oilers'72]

Connor needs to average nearly 3 PPGs a game in the next 44 games to surpass Gretzky.

 

[WaitingForUser]

I realize Drai has trouble scoring goals against the Flames but damn. He has this mental block against them. I remember a game where he had like three breakaways and he got stopped on every one of them.

To be fair he did score #50 against them a few years ago.

 

[MessierII]

To be fair he did score #50 against them a few years ago.

Great milestone but it still only counts as 1

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Seeing all those Calgary Flames names makes me want to toss my cookies.

man what a puke show that is

 

[SK13]

McDavid's goals per game against the Flames is better than Gretzky's lol.

 

[subnet]

That Gretzky guy must have been pretty good!!!

I've always heard he was too small, too slow and that he couldn't hack the physicality of the NHL - hmmm... Looked 'OK' from my eyes

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Just noted the same thing, and hadn't been aware of that tidbit. Still, seems like the statline is strange.

Pretty impressive tally by Glenn Anderson. 57 goals. I don't think anybody is catching that one.

In fairness the Flames are not a notable team at all. This isn't the matchup where in present time that you even have to bring your best. just another opponent.

57 goals? McDavid might catch that in 2 years.

 

[Drivesaitl]

57 goals? McDavid might catch that in 2 years.

Pretty sure you're joking but McDavid may never surpass that total during his career. Primarily due to how expansion NHL, and alignment, means that only around 4 games per year will be had against Calgary. Not like it used to be when they were a common opponent due to divisional weighted scheduling in the 80's. So lets say McDavid faces Calgary around 32 games over the next 8 seasons. He would need to go G/G in those to catch Andersons career tallies against Calgary.

 

[Laodongxi]

I've always heard he was too small, too slow and that he couldn't hack the physicality of the NHL - hmmm... Looked 'OK' from my eyes [/QUOTE

Also, you still hear (from people who never saw him play, or weren't paying attention) that he was never hit because of Semenko riding shotgun. This idea is so absurd! Gretzky almost never got hit because of his uncanny spacial hockey sense and illusiveness. I remember seeing him get absolutely rocked by a big no name rookie Leaf defenceman on a Hockey Night in Canada broadcast. It was just so shocking to see him get smoked like that because it was a blue moon event. You couldn't hit the guy.

 

[bone]

To be fair he did score #50 against them a few years ago.

But should have been able to get the 51st (he had chances to do it, if I remember correctly he even had a chance at the open net) which would have got him a share of the Rocket.

 

[tardigrade81]

That Gretzky guy must have been pretty good!!!

Kent Nilsson was a great double agent!

I’ve heard of this… Gretzky is it? Sounds like an amazing player.

 

[Xelebes]

Two games played since last update.

Edmonton Oilers:

Wayne Gretzky​	75​	59​	111​	170​
Mark Messier​	96​	44​	73​	117​
Jari Kurri​	91​	39​	71​	110​
Glenn Anderson​	107​	57​	52​	109​
Paul Coffey​	69​	33​	57​	90​
Charlie Huddy​	89​	8​	46​	54​
Connor McDavid​	33​	26​	19​	45​
Doug Weight​	43​	12​	33​	45​
Leon Draisatl​	37​	8​	37​	45​
Kevin Lowe​	116​	8​	34​	42​
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins​	48​	17​	23​	40​
Ales Hemsky​	57​	11​	28​	39​
Esa Tikkanen​	59​	19​	18​	37​
Shawn Horcoff​	59​	15​	22​	37​
Craig MacTavish​	76​	23​	13​	36​
Ryan Smyth​	70​	19​	16​	35​
Dave Hunter​	69​	12​	21​	33​
Pat Hughes​	41​	16​	16​	32​
Jordan Eberle​	33​	14​	18​	32​
Todd Marchant​	44​	12​	18​	30​

Darnell Nurse at 35th place with 15 points
Jesse Puljujarvi at 39th place with 13 points

Calgary Flames

Al MacInnis​	93​	30​	73​	103​
Gary Suter​	68​	16​	65​	81​
Jarome Iginla​	87​	32​	47​	79​
Theoren Fleury​	67​	31​	44​	75​
Paul Reinhart​	59​	21​	49​	70​
Lanny McDonald​	69​	33​	30​	63​
Joel Otto​	79​	19​	35​	54​
Joe Nieuwendyk​	59​	30​	23​	53​
Gary Roberts​	61​	24​	22​	46​
Kent Nilsson​	34​	13​	33​	46​
Hakan Loob​	53​	21​	22​	43​
Robert Reichel​	43​	20​	23​	43​
Mikael Backlund​	54​	13​	29​	42​
Carey Wilson​	53​	14​	25​	39​
Joe Mullen​	38​	18​	20​	38​
Jim Peplinski​	85​	15​	23​	38​
Mark Giordano​	67​	9​	27​	36​
Guy Chouinard​	24​	9​	26​	35​
Johnny Gaudreau​	40​	15​	19​	34​
Sergei Makarov​	32​	6​	25​	31​

Sean Monahan is at 24th place with 24 points
Elias Lindholm at 26th place with 23 points
Matthew Tkachuk at 30th place with 21 points

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Nuge ahead of Smyth and Hemsky is definitely something for him to be proud of.

 

[Stoneman89]

Just taking a stroll through the history of the Battle of Alberta and while it might not be as strong as it once was, it nonetheless persists. I thought it would be interesting to see how current players are comparing to prior hockey players. Taking a look, there are three current Oiler players in the top 20 of Oilers scoring. With four regular season games this year, we could see McDavid could jump from ninth to seventh, overtaking Doug Weight. If they meet in the playoffs, McDavid has a slight chance of getting into sixth and overtaking Charlie Huddy. The next current player to the top twenty is Darnell Nurse who is at 39th.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Wayne Gretzky	75	59	111	170
2	Mark Messier	96	44	73	117
3	Jari Kurri	91	39	71	110
4	Glenn Anderson	107	57	52	109
5	Paul Coffey	69	33	57	90
6	Charlie Huddy	89	8	46	54
7	Doug Weight	43	12	33	45
8	Connor McDavid	31	26	17	43
9	Kevin Lowe	116	8	34	42
10	Leon Draisatl	35	5	36	41
11	Ales Hemsky	57	11	28	39
12	Esa Tikkanen	59	19	18	37
12	Shawn Horcoff	59	15	22	37
14	Craig MacTavish	76	23	13	36
14	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	47	16	20	36
16	Ryan Smyth	70	19	16	35
17	Dave Hunter	69	12	21	33
18	Pat Hughes	41	16	16	32
18	Jordan Eberle	33	14	18	32
20	Craig Simpson	45	9	21	30
20	Todd Marchant	44	12	18	30

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
The next Oiler players in following the top 20:

Darnell Nurse, 35th at 14 points
Jesse Puljujarvi, 39th at 13 points

Taking a look at Calgary, with the departure of Giordano to Seattle, there are only two current Flames players in the top twenty and none in the top ten. That said, with four regular season games, Backlund has a slight chance of getting into the top 10, overtaking Nilson and Roberts, but much more likely if the Flames meet the Oilers in the playoffs.

	Player	Games	Goals	Assists	Points
1	Al MacInnis	93	30	73	103
2	Gary Suter	68	16	65	81
3	Jarome Iginla	87	32	47	79
4	Theoren Fleury	67	31	44	75
5	Paul Reinhart	59	21	49	70
6	Lanny McDonald	69	33	30	63
7	Joel Otto	79	19	35	54
8	Joe Nieuwendyk	59	30	23	53
9	Kent Nilsson	34	13	33	46
9	Gary Roberts	61	24	22	46
11	Hakan Loob	53	21	22	43
11	Robert Reichel	43	20	23	43
13	Carey Wilson	53	14	25	39
13	Mikael Backlund	52	11	28	39
15	Jim Peplinski	85	15	23	38
15	Joe Mullen	38	18	20	38
17	Mark Giordano	67	9	27	36
18	Guy Chouinard	24	9	26	35
19	Sergei Makarov	32	6	25	31
20	Johnny Gaudreau	38	14	13	27

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Next players up in the Flames:

Sean Monahan, 25th at 24 points
Elias Lindholm, 30th at 20 points
Matthew Tkachuk, 39th at 16 points

Gaudreau probably jumped past about 15 guys last night.