Post-Game Talk: Babcock and "Gud Pros" let Leafs down AGAIN!

Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by MR4, Apr 14, 2018.

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  1. DarkKnight

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    Weak.
     
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    Everyone go youtube some Wesley Willis songs. You'll feel better
     
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    It's not rocket science or heart surgery for that matter. It's hockey coaching. More on par with changing a flat tire. If you have a Corvette and you put a Spark tire on it, performance will be reduced. Kind of like putting Komarov on your first line and PP.
     
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    Then by all means, I look forward to you coaching the Leafs next season!
     
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    haha id put the spare tire on the vette procharge it, and convert it to E85 and have some fun!
     
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    How much experience did Shanahan have when he got the President job? Seems like he grew up playing hockey was the extent of his experience, kind of similar to the posters in question.
     
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    What if you have a limited budget, with a cap on tire spending?

    And then one of your good tires goes and punctures itself late in the first game?

    Anyways, where are Leafs getting any offence these playoffs? It's not Komarov, you're right there.

    It's JVR, Hyman, Bozak and Marner. Three of those guys haven't had a ton of love here all year, but there you go....

    Anyways, I really like how fast the team came out for this game. A way better start. Worse outcome though....
     
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    Jesus ****in Christ it's only been a day and I can't wait for game 3. Bring it to 2-1 and we're right ****in back in it.
    Now now, stop with that logic and realize you can only get Babs' god given talent through coaching already dominant teams to championships! Not that I think I'd be anywhere equal to Babs as a coach - but definitely think I'd be better with line combinations.
     
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    I said that he shares the blame in the very post you quoted. If you don't even bother reading, why are you on a forum?

    He does. In his opinion.

    I'm not mad. I haven't said anything about hyperbole. And it's very arguable that I didn't use it myself either.

    We were not dominating. We had maybe the upper hand in a tie game at one point in the first half of the game, and then fell apart completely in the second.

    At no point in that game did we have a lead in zone time, or an edge in scoring chances.

    You mean like getting placed on the fourth line? Babs was too slow to react though, that I can agree with.

    I find it hilarious that you call the PP that had up to that point been the by far best in the league awful, and then talk about common sense. And no, I didn't attribute the success to Komarov. I said that you are not an idiot because you are not changing a unit that has been extremely successful.

    What on earth? Elementary means that the absolute basics. That's the definition. It's not about how I want to use it, that's what it means. You can't just take words and change their meaning.

    And yeah, I get what you were saying. You were talking about subjective evaluations that you don't agree with in a way that makes it seem like there's an objective truth that Babcock was ignoring. I do share your disagreement with his choices though.
    You quoted a post I made where I said that not everything should be put on one guy to argue against me, saying that I was ignoring all these horrible things that Babcock has done. If you agree that everybody shares blame to some degree, why did you argue against me saying exactly that?

    Those doesn't sound like my arguments. I'm quite sure that none of my arguments were that I don't understand basic logic.

    I have also not ignored anything. I'm just separating what Babcock has done wrong with the performance of our players. Everybody is responsible for their own performance.

    I don't really care if you are a native speaker. You used it wrong. It's not a big deal. Accept it and move on.

    As for prioritizing blame, you force a narrative that assigns him an unreasonable portion of the blame, in my opinion.
    I have not done this at all. My point from the start has been that he's not the only one to blame. That people feel the need to jump down my throat because they can't separate that stance from one where he is not to blame at all is not my fault.
     
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    It's all a plan by Lou so that Nylander , Matthews and Marner sign long term contracts at two million per season after this playoff. Not saying it would make any difference, but Babcock's "matchups" have the players more confused than actually playing.
     
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    wondering if need be who comes in for Leo i could see Babs choosing any of Martin, Leivo, or Moore
     
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    Or maybe you just need to understand that these teams are made from different cloth? Our team never has and never will be physical, it's a team based on skill. So I'm not sure why it's a surprise to you that a team that is known for being physical is imposing its will on us physically lol.

    So I don't think you can call someone a coward for not playing a style of hockey that is foreign to them.
     
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    One fan base is grounded and realistic about things (boston's). The other is reactionary and unrealistic about a lot of things (leafs)
     
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    Lets move from this debacle as today's GDT is up.

    /Closed
     
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