Confirmed with Link: Avs sign Saige Weinstein to a three-year entry-level contract

[S E P H]

Isn't that the difference between a NHL player and not sometimes? In all fairness lol.

Back in the '90s and early 2000s, sure with players like Ken Klee got a job. Nowadays? If Siemens or Jett Woo ain't getting NHL jobs, there's no way Weinstein is getting one at this current point in time. Hell, Josh Anderson was all about laying the body out and he's somewhere doing something I guess...

 

[CobraAcesS]

Back in the '90s and early 2000s, sure with players like Ken Klee got a job. Nowadays? If Siemens or Jett Woo ain't getting NHL jobs, there's no way Weinstein is getting one at this current point in time. Hell, Josh Anderson was all about laying the body out and he's somewhere doing something I guess...

So you don't think the puck skill is there along with it? That would make sense to me.

 

[S E P H]

So you don't think the puck skill is there along with it? That would make sense to me.

I am all about defensive defencemen needing to have some offence in juniors to have a passable level the higher they go (not in terms of points, but skill stick ability). There are definite exceptions to that rule like Kleven (OTT draft pick), but those tend to be rare. Even someone like Mattias Samuelsson was able to put up decent nums in junior and a bit in college. Weinstein has the bare minimum and he ain't 6'4" or 6'5" like other shutdown defencemen with a crazy wingspan and long stick. I don't know if you ever played hockey in your past Cobra, but there's this defenceman I play against who is 6'4" and possesses a 6'7" wingspan and he is absolutely unstoppable in beer league (competitive level too, like against ex-ECHLers, WHLers, USHLers, and DI NCAAers).

 

[CobraAcesS]

I am all about defensive defencemen needing to have some offence in juniors to have a passable level the higher they go (not in terms of points, but skill stick ability). There are definite exceptions to that rule like Kleven (OTT draft pick), but those tend to be rare. Even someone like Mattias Samuelsson was able to put up decent nums in junior and a bit in college. Weinstein has the bare minimum and he ain't 6'4" or 6'5" like other shutdown defencemen with a crazy wingspan and long stick. I don't know if you ever played hockey in your past Cobra, but there's this defenceman I play against who is 6'4" and possesses a 6'7" wingspan and he is absolutely unstoppable in beer league (competitive level too, like against ex-ECHLers, WHLers, USHLers, and DI NCAAers).

On blades in California until 11 is the extent of my playing time, and some pretty embarrassing pond hockey without the ability to stop well in the Winter in Washington State lol. Thank God there was snow and not boards as a backstop.

I figured that's what you meant, it really sucked Duncan couldn't develop more in that area.

 

[Alienblood]

Behrens?

hopefully moved at the deadline

 

[MaKarter]

https://x.com/TraceySlade1/status/1523783559663685632?s=20

 

[Chiarelli]

Going back to previous scouting regimes but the Avs just do not have an eye for low skill larger d men:

- Nigel Williams
- Colby Cohen
- Duncan Siemens
- Nic Meloche
- Andrei Mironov
- Josh Anderson
- Nikita Ishimnikov

Just draft the small skill guys and trade them at least you can hit on those picks with some regularity.

 

[Alienblood]

Going back to previous scouting regimes but the Avs just do not have an eye for low skill larger d men:

- Nigel Williams
- Colby Cohen
- Duncan Siemens
- Nic Meloche
- Andrei Mironov
- Josh Anderson
- Nikita Ishimnikov

Just draft the small skill guys and trade them at least you can hit on those picks with some regularity.

Weistein will likely end up 6 ft 200 lbs.

 

[Chiarelli]

Weistein will likely end up 6 ft 200 lbs.

so just low skill and no size then which is even worse

 

[Alienblood]

so just low skill and no size then which is even worse

no size ? He is 6ft 175 lbs now but at 18 that's normal.

I didn't realise 6 ft 200 was small lol

He's a good skater too

 

[Chiarelli]

no size ? He is 6ft 175 lbs now but at 18 that's normal.

I didn't realise 6 ft 200 was small lol

He's a good skater too

So what was your first comment about then you’ve contradicted yourself…

 

[Alienblood]

So what was your first comment about then you’ve contradicted yourself…

how so ?

If you mean small now , you expect him to be 175 at 23 ?

He already hits hard at his size now.

I don't consider that small . shouldn't be hard for him to put on 20 to 25 lbs I wouldn't think

 

[Chiarelli]

how so ?

If you mean small now , you expect him to be 175 at 23 ?

He already hits hard at his size now.

I don't consider that small . shouldn't be hard for him to put on 20 to 25 lbs I wouldn't think

I said the Avs can’t draft big low skill guys. I assumed you were saying he’s not big since he’s going to be 6’ 200lb (this is not big for the nhl).

 

[henchman21]

how so ?

If you mean small now , you expect him to be 175 at 23 ?

He already hits hard at his size now.

I don't consider that small . shouldn't be hard for him to put on 20 to 25 lbs I wouldn't think

Unless a player is 6'3" 180... 20-25lbs doesn't happen unless they go all fatty. Today's training 10-15 is much more common and should be. 6' 195ish will be Weinstein's size when all is said and done. And yeah that isn't 'small' but below average. It is very small however for a guy who relies on physicality as his key trait.

 

[Balthazar]

You can be physical and small, it just won't last very long.

 

[Alienblood]

I said the Avs can’t draft big low skill guys. I assumed you were saying he’s not big since he’s going to be 6’ 200lb (this is not big for the nhl).

well it isn't small

 

[Chiarelli]

well it isn't small

Average Height and Weight of Hockey Defenseman (NHL 2023)

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Below average. 6’2” 203lbs

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[AvBuff]

"Saige Weinstein" sounds like a quantum physicist at the CERN SuperCollider..

 

[forsbergavs32]

Anyone know if this guy can play goalie?

 

[Bender]

Anyone know if this guy can play goalie?

Yes, I know.

 

[Miri]

Now we just need a few pickups named Rosemary, Parsley, and Thyme.

We will, on Draftborough Fair