Prospect Info: At 31st Overall the Habs Select Logan Mailloux (MOD post#1)

[IslesNorway]

Since the people he shared it with reported him I am sure it won't be out there forever.

Seriously?? Of course it's out there forever like anything that goes online. I am totally sure the pic was used as evidence and obviously some of his teammates or their friends still have it somewhere. And even if it happens never to appear on an online porn site, she will always he stigmatised in her hometown for what happened. Always.

Judging by what she said in Swedish media a little while ago, Mailleux has yet to properly say he's sorry and has not given her a call or make a real excuse. That makes it worse. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and says he will not partake in any camps or have anything to do with the Canadiens organization for the next year.. It would be the decent thing to do.

 

[Banjo Cat]

Once again you take the worst position imaginable to defend the organization.

You really think anyone needs to explain why drafting an unremorseful sex offender with a first round pick, after he asked to not be

An unremorseful sex offender? I think the fact he asked not to be drafted is the remorse part. You could argue he is being fake, but you don't know how much remorse he feels.

What the guy did was horrible and stupid. And maybe you can technically argue he is a sex offender, but I think that language is a bit harsh considering the term conjures up more of a vile sexual predator, rather than someone bragging to his friends. It is still a stupid thing to do, but holy hyperbole batman.

 

[Natey]

I'm all for it. Maybe this shows Bergevin is moving away from that character bullshit.

I had players much higher than him still available - Simon Robertsson for example. But f*** it, if this moves us away from the character bullshit ..

 

[Banjo Cat]

I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out and says he will not partake in any camps or have anything to do with the Canadiens organization for the next year.. It would be the decent thing to do.

Yeah, he should probably not play hockey next year cause some Isles fan in Norway is upset.

 

[Belial]

I'm all for it. Maybe this shows Bergevin is moving away from that character bullshit.

I had players much higher than him still available - Simon Robertsson for example. But f*** it, if this moves us away from the character bullshit ..

Again what exactly brings you to the conclusion that this kid doesn't have character?

 

[Hannibal]

You guys wanted a homerun swing? Well this is it. No bigger homerun swing than this. Perfect draft to do it tbh…

 

[MrNasty]

A girl her age who had a similar thing bappen to her, killed herself. You don't get to say that it won't haunt them.

Ok WTK. You keep bringing this case up and it is inappropriate. Yes a teenage girl killed herself here after pictures of her were distributed around her school. She was 16 when it happened and she was allegedly gang raped in that incident. What Mailloux did was bad but let’s not compare the two as the same. You also allege that MB had a role in the Aldridge matter.
We all get and understand that you are unhappy with the draft pick but you are overdoing it.

 

[waitin425]

The kid has some serious work to do on himself. If he can do that work and also overcome all the pressure and circus he has brought on himself, he could be a good one.

He was solid with the Junior B London Nationals as a 16 year old.

The next two years with the Knights will really give us a clear picture

 

[Natey]

Again what exactly brings you to the conclusion that this kid doesn't have character?

I think that's pretty evident.

However, while what he did was extremely bad - I think a lot of people have done similar things. I can't tell you how many friends have shown me nudes of their SO when I was in high school. The only difference is the pictures were sent to them - but I'm sure they still didn't want them shown around. It's still awful though.

However, I also don't blame Bergevin. I said as soon as the news came out - very few teams would pass on him if he was their clear BPA. I expected him to go more in the 50-70 slot, but whatever. I would have taken Robertsson, but I'm not paid for this.

 

[Not woke]

It will blow over. I had a similar thing happen to me. Actually in my case I would argue what happened was much worse. I don't feel like a great victim because of it. Certainly not after a year. It's embarrassing and makes you pretty angry. It's a really crappy thing to do to someone. I hated the person for it for quite a while, but I would not have wanted them to let's say not get an amazing job -- mainly because it wasn't related to what happened. Girls do it to guys, too. And not much happens to them either.

For the next couple years, he won't even be a Hab.

Were you recorded without your consent?

That's an important element of this kid's story.

Sharing without your consent is the risk you take when you're fully aware you're being recorded.. sad but true.

 

[Banjo Cat]

And even if it happens never to appear on an online porn site, she will always he stigmatised in her hometown for what happened. Always.

The cryptic "always". I live in a small town. 90% percent of us do the walk of shame over something at some point.

No one will care in a few months who an 18 year old girl had sexual relations with.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ok WTK. You keep bringing this case up and it is inappropriate. Yes a teenage girl killed herself here after pictures of her were distributed around her school. She was 16 when it happened and she was allegedly gang raped in that incident. What Mailloux did was bad but let’s not compare the two as the same. You also allege that MB had a role in the Aldridge matter.
We all get and understand that you are unhappy with the draft pick but you are overdoing it.

Yet I also stated that I have a friend who sent naked pictures to her boyfriend, who distributed the pictures amongst his coworkers and she also suffered shame from that and I had to talk her out of harming herself.

You can argue the semantics but there are many many incidents of similar actions which have led to self harm, trauma, erosion of trust, etc. That are real and long lasting impacts of behavior like this.

Minimizing the magnitude of it because other women have been able to come through the other side of it more easily, is gross.

Be better.

 

[Belial]

I think that's pretty evident.

However, I also don't blame Bergevin. I said as soon as the news came out - very few teams would pass on him if he was their clear BPA. I expected him to go more in the 50-70 slot, but whatever. I would have taken Robertsson, but I'm not paid for this.

No! It's not evident at all!

Him showing his teammates those pics is not really proof of some sort of lack of character.

And we're talking about a 17-year-old kid here...

We should probably define what that mythical character even means before arguing..

 

[Gyfu]

What he did was absolutely disgusting and in very bad taste, people that are offended by the pick have the right to be, i grew up with a single mom and a sister, i have tons of respect for women and, yeah, if i was the girl's brother i'd kick his @$$ for sure... What he did was bad and dumb as f***, he's still a kid and "deserves" another chance, like some said, we all make stupid mistakes growing up (maturing)... In the end though, Mtl being what it is, we should've traded the pick or just pass on him... Again, he's a kid that made a huge mistake but i don't think he should live with that burden eternally (he better feel sorry and deserves so but to "label" him like a savage predator is a bit off to me... I respect everyone's opinion, it's just the way i see it personnally

 

[dinodebino]

In professional life, for career purposes, you learn not to touch certain subject matters with a 10 foot pole.

This thread is one of them.

 

[Belial]

Yet I also stated that I have a friend who sent naked pictures to her boyfriend, who distributed the pictures amongst his coworkers and she also suffered shame from that and I had to talk her out of harming herself.

You can argue the semantics but there are many many incidents of similar actions which have led to self harm, trauma, erosion of trust, etc. That are real and long lasting impacts of behavior like this.

Minimizing the magnitude of it because other women have been able to come through the other side of it more easily, is gross.

Be better.

No one's minimizing anything here!

The contrary is actually happening, it's getting blown out of proportion!

But you still feel like it's not enough...

What do you actually want to happen?

 

[McGuires Corndog]

In professional life, for career purposes, you learn not to touch certain subject matters with a 10 foot pole.

This thread is one of them.

This thread will require your bidet sir

 

[Belial]

In professional life, for career purposes, you learn not to touch certain subject matters with a 10 foot pole.

This thread is one of them.

Awaille Dino, you know you want it!

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

A girl her age who had a similar thing bappen to her, killed herself. You don't get to say that it won't haunt them.

Thats an extreme case. Most girls who are in this situation won't end up killing themselves.
There are girls who kill themselves after their boyfriend breaks up with them. I wouldnt say breaking up with someone leads to the other commiting suicide.

Considering only a small amount of people saw the picture, the fact that her face and most of her body were not even visible, and that her identity is hidden to everyone other than the few who saw it, I doubt its going to be something that haunts her for many years.

 

[HTTP 400]

I can understand opinions stating that he's a good hockey player, worth the pick and worth the controversy. I don't know him as a prospect.

I can also understand we should not treat him like a monster or a terrible human being. I don't know him as a person.

But we should not minimize what he did or the effects on the victims. We should not see it as a simple "mistake", or something that happens everywhere to everyone. This is exactly what rape culture is and this must stop.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[Belial]

I can understand opinions stating that he's a good hockey player, worth the pick and worth the controversy. I don't know him as a prospect.

I can also understand we should not treat him like a monster or a terrible human being. I don't know him as a person.

But we should not minimize what he did or the effects on the victims. We should not see it as a simple "mistake", or something that happens everywhere to everyone. This is exactly what rape culture is and this must stop.

The entire planet knows who Logan Mailloux is and what he did FFS!

Is that minimizing enough for you?

 

[nyhabsfan]

Young kid, made a mistake at 16 or 17... Tell me nobody on this board has done stupid stuff at that age
No way anyone can condone or defend his behavior but imo the world has degraded since the age of social media.

You have to believe the Habs did some deeper dive into the young man and believe he is remorseful and can help coach and mentor him as he gets a second and final chance.

The self-righteous articles I have read a little over the top. With that said the kid will need to face the media today (not an easy thing to do in MTL at the best of circumstances). How about we give the kid a chance to speak before we crucify him any further.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

You’re going to love this selection habs fans.

He’s going to be a really good player.

 

[LouJersey]

You are all delusional and would be killing any other team had they done this