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Prospect Info: At 18th Overall the Winnipeg Jets Select C Chaz Lucius

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10Ducky10 said:
Lowry, Copper, Tanev, KC, Scheif (not a gimme), Helle...I'll stop there.
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Just as a comparison I was looking at the Oilers draft picks for the same period of time (2011-present). I can only find 2 players selected after the first round that appears to have become an every0day NHLer - Ethan Bear and Jujhar Khaira (and I'm not exactly a huge fan of either player).
 
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Neuf said:
What... is.... happen...
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New moves... gone awry...

Decapitated thread...

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Yukon Joe said:
Seriously?

How about Lowry (2nd round 2011), Hellebuyck (5th round 2012), Copp (4th round 2013), Poolman (5th round 2013), Appleton (6th round 2015), and with others that are still developing. Lots of teams would love to have that many players taken after the first round play in their organization.
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Very good post here, and it shows you how competent the Jets scouting staff is. They really have a keen eye for talent. Those are some solid players you've cited here.
 
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Yukon Joe said:
Seriously?

How about Lowry (2nd round 2011), Hellebuyck (5th round 2012), Copp (4th round 2013), Poolman (5th round 2013), Appleton (6th round 2015), and with others that are still developing. Lots of teams would love to have that many players taken after the first round play in their organization.
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Lowry was a 3rd round pick.
 
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The Minnesota game was on Big 10 Network last night so I was able to watch it all and (obviously) played very close attention to Lucius.

NCAA is annoying with 14 forwards - YES, 14 FREAKIN FORWARDS on the bench. It feels like they only play one shift every 5 mins. I so much prefer the CHL model where top prospects seem to play 20+ mins per night. I notice the NCAA truly roles all four lines in sequence and it appears Minnesota has 3 distinct PP units. When I watch the Winnipeg Ice play, Savoie / Geekie get so much ice time. Trying to watch Lucius last night was painful. My guess is all forwards (14 of them!!!!!!!!) probably play approx 13 mins per game.

That all said - my takeaways:

Lucius reminds me a bit of Scheifele from a stylistic standpoint. He's a right shot, fairly big with long strides. Doesn't look like his legs are pumping fast yet is moving at a reasonable pace. Uses his body well to protect puck. Very nice puck skills but doesn't really try to take anyone 1 on 1. Quick small area passes. Blade always on the ice 'lurking' for a quick shot on goal in slot area. Continuously adjusts his body to make himself available as a passing option. Seems to prefer being F3 (hangs back high slot) rather than F1. Again, stylistically only, a little bit of Patrick Laine 'sharking' in the Ozone always trying to make himself available high for a shot on goal.

Anyway, my two cents only
 
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jimsabo21 said:
The Minnesota game was on Big 10 Network last night so I was able to watch it all and (obviously) played very close attention to Lucius.

NCAA is annoying with 14 forwards - YES, 14 FREAKIN FORWARDS on the bench. It feels like they only play one shift every 5 mins. I so much prefer the CHL model where top prospects seem to play 20+ mins per night. I notice the NCAA truly roles all four lines in sequence and it appears Minnesota has 3 distinct PP units. When I watch the Winnipeg Ice play, Savoie / Geekie get so much ice time. Trying to watch Lucius last night was painful. My guess is all forwards (14 of them!!!!!!!!) probably play approx 13 mins per game.

That all said - my takeaways:

Lucius reminds me a bit of Scheifele from a stylistic standpoint. He's a right shot, fairly big with long strides. Doesn't look like his legs are pumping fast yet is moving at a reasonable pace. Uses his body well to protect puck. Very nice puck skills but doesn't really try to take anyone 1 on 1. Quick small area passes. Blade always on the ice 'lurking' for a quick shot on goal in slot area. Continuously adjusts his body to make himself available as a passing option. Seems to prefer being F3 (hangs back high slot) rather than F1. Again, stylistically only, a little bit of Patrick Laine 'sharking' in the Ozone always trying to make himself available high for a shot on goal.

Anyway, my two cents only
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I've thought about the Scheifele comparison as well but figured I'd get some weird looks if I mentioned it. Maybe not Scheifele today but I can see a lot of similarities between him and pre-NHL Scheifele. Not overly fast and a little clunky, great shot and release but biggest skill is anticipating where the puck is going to pop out and being there to get a scoring chance. Easy to not notice him for awhile then suddenly he pops one in the net. If he improves his skating he could be a star, if he doesn't he could still be a good complementary player.
 
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jimsabo21 said:
The Minnesota game was on Big 10 Network last night so I was able to watch it all and (obviously) played very close attention to Lucius.

NCAA is annoying with 14 forwards - YES, 14 FREAKIN FORWARDS on the bench. It feels like they only play one shift every 5 mins. I so much prefer the CHL model where top prospects seem to play 20+ mins per night. I notice the NCAA truly roles all four lines in sequence and it appears Minnesota has 3 distinct PP units. When I watch the Winnipeg Ice play, Savoie / Geekie get so much ice time. Trying to watch Lucius last night was painful. My guess is all forwards (14 of them!!!!!!!!) probably play approx 13 mins per game.

That all said - my takeaways:

Lucius reminds me a bit of Scheifele from a stylistic standpoint. He's a right shot, fairly big with long strides. Doesn't look like his legs are pumping fast yet is moving at a reasonable pace. Uses his body well to protect puck. Very nice puck skills but doesn't really try to take anyone 1 on 1. Quick small area passes. Blade always on the ice 'lurking' for a quick shot on goal in slot area. Continuously adjusts his body to make himself available as a passing option. Seems to prefer being F3 (hangs back high slot) rather than F1. Again, stylistically only, a little bit of Patrick Laine 'sharking' in the Ozone always trying to make himself available high for a shot on goal.

Anyway, my two cents only
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Same teams on the Big 10 Network right now. Better than the only hockey alternative Laffs/Avs on right now
 
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Lucius had a slow start to his season and missed some time (not sure what happened, but he's only played 17 of his team's 23 games), but he's started to put it together as of late:

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Early in the season he was likely getting re-acquainted with skating due to knee surgery last year. Was also playing 3rd/4th line minutes vs. the more recent games he’s been 1st/2nd line.

Curious, does anybody have insight on what kind of injury his brother Cruz has? Looks like he hasn’t played much this year, and could go well beyond when he was originally expected.
 
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After the "playing a video game on easy mode" like numbers that Kyle Connor put up in his rookie season in the NCAA, every other prospects NCAA stats seem 'meh'... Connor has ruined stat watching NCAA forwards for me. :laugh:
 
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Really hoping that Lucius can turn into a bonafide top 6 forward. That could setup the next young core of Jets forwards in a few years around PLD, Perfetti, Lucius, and Chibrikov.

Also want Lucius to turn out because I was wondering if last year might have made sense to take Wallstedt instead.
 
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