Speculation: Artturi Lehkonen for a defenseman

[Blame the referee]

Lehkonen seems to be the odd man out since Ducharme took the job of head coach. I think he is a pretty good 3rd/4th line player. Good defense, good energy, but a lack of offense.

With Ben Chariot out for 6 to 8 weeks, I can see Bergevin try to trade Lehkonen for a dman.

What do you have available for us?

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[Gotskillz2102]

If I remember, last year some teams have had interest in him.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I think he'll be part of a deal for a defenceman, not the whole deal.

 

[Legend123]

Tbh he has sucked this year. Useless and generic as they come. Too bad. At least last year he was chipping in from to time and played better D

 

[Richard88]

Something around Graves for Lehkonen+ might make sense, particularly since Jacob MacDonald has looked really good as an AHL callup and only needs another 13 GP to meet the expansion eligibility criteria to give Colorado a Dman to expose. If it happened it would have to wait until Avs get some Dmen healthy though, as half of their top 6 is injured right now (i.e. Johnson, Makar, Byram, Timmins).

Fwiw there's been mutual interest in the past, as Bergevin was in Denver with his assistant GM at last years deadline to scout Graves, and Avs have liked Lehkonen for a while.

With their lack of bottom 6 production I'm not sure Lehkonen is what the Avs need right now though, especially given how important Graves is to the PK. Could see it being an offseason move if Lehkonen isn't asking for too much on his next contract.

 

[Mersss]

Lehkonen seems to be the odd man out since Ducharme took the job of head coach. I think he is a pretty good 3rd/4th line player. Good defense, good energy, but a lack of offense.

With Ben Chariot out for 6 to 8 weeks, I can see Bergevin try to trade Lehkonen for a dman.

What do you have available for us?

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.

Gallagher
Drouin
KK
Toffoli
Anderson
Evans
Lehkhonen

**Tatar Danault and Armia not resigned until after the ED in order to open more protecting sluts

Weber
Petry
Edmundson

Allen
**Price waives knowing he needs a good backup behind him, AND knows SEA woN't pick him and his contract

Leaving the only good options to get picked by SEA being Byron and Chiarot or the likes of Kulak...

That's what will happen. Trading Lehkhonen for a d-man = we'd lose said d-man to Seattle instead of getting rid of 3.5M$ on our cap.

 

[Techcoockie]

Bergevin refused Bura for Lehk, value wise it would have been good but I doubt Colorado wants to do that trade now.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Besides the quarantine, something around Juuso Riikola makes sense imo.

 

[Smitty426]

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.

Gallagher
Drouin
KK
Toffoli
Anderson
Evans
Lehkhonen

**Tatar Danault and Armia not resigned until after the ED in order to open more protecting sluts

Weber
Petry
Edmundson

Allen
**Price waives knowing he needs a good backup behind him, AND knows SEA woN't pick him and his contract

Leaving the only good options to get picked by SEA being Byron and Chiarot or the likes of Kulak...

That's what will happen. Trading Lehkhonen for a d-man = we'd lose said d-man to Seattle instead of getting rid of 3.5M$ on our cap.

Trade for a ufa defender then, you just need a rental

 

[Richard88]

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.

Gallagher
Drouin
KK
Toffoli
Anderson
Evans
Lehkhonen

**Tatar Danault and Armia not resigned until after the ED in order to open more protecting sluts

Weber
Petry
Edmundson

Allen
**Price waives knowing he needs a good backup behind him, AND knows SEA woN't pick him and his contract

Leaving the only good options to get picked by SEA being Byron and Chiarot or the likes of Kulak...

That's what will happen. Trading Lehkhonen for a d-man = we'd lose said d-man to Seattle instead of getting rid of 3.5M$ on our cap.

Giving Seattle the opportunity to select Danault and have exclusive negotiating rights with him is a sure-fire way to lose him. No team will have the amount of cap flexibility as Seattle, so they'll be able to offer Danault a good contract.

 

[Richard88]

Bergevin refused Bura for Lehk, value wise it would have been good but I doubt Colorado wants to do that trade now.

When did Bergevin refuse that? I don't recall seeing anything about Burakovsky being dangled by Sakic.

 

[MSSLYNX]

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.
...

Dman you receive in return will not be some team 3rd best dman...
Expecting too much of a return there.
Lehkonen is depth. Depth is a thing.

 

[Vachon23]

for other team, don't just look at the stats with Lehkonen. He's great on PK and on forecheck. To be honest I don't understand why he's not playing because he's a regular.

 

[dingbathero]

Hagg.

* hits like a boss
*+ 16 for his career
* is swedish, prolly turns red with embarssment when he plays so well for you, like the fish candy.
* you lack Sweden on your roster, we lack Finnish on ours
* wears the SAME number as Chiarot - perfect replacement
* might be related to THE Chef.

 

[Captain97]

When did Bergevin refuse that? I don't recall seeing anything about Burakovsky being dangled by Sakic.

It was when Burakovsky was on the caps.

 

[Richard88]

It was when Burakovsky was on the caps.

Well his value has obviously gone up considerably since then, having paced 28 goals/64 points last year and 24 goals/65 points this year, along with being over PPG in the playoffs. Lehkonen doesn't even come close to being fair value for Burakovsky right now.

 

[Captain97]

Well his value has obviously gone up considerably since then, having paced 28 goals/64 points last year and 24 goals/65 points this year, along with being over PPG in the playoffs. Lehkonen doesn't even come close to being fair value for Burakovsky right now.

Without a doubt, I was just replying to "when was Sakic shopping him" question.

The answer is he wasn't and why would he, Bura has been great for the Avs.

 

[Richard88]

Without a doubt, I was just replying to "when was Sakic shopping him" question.

The answer is he wasn't and why would he, Bura has been great for the Avs.

Thanks for clarifying

 

[Mersss]

Giving Seattle the opportunity to select Danault and have exclusive negotiating rights with him is a sure-fire way to lose him. No team will have the amount of cap flexibility as Seattle, so they'll be able to offer Danault a good contract.

If theya re ready to sign Danault @ anything above 5M, be my guess... It'd instantly become one of the wrost deals in the NHL.

 

[Mersss]

Dman you receive in return will not be some team 3rd best dman...
Expecting too much of a return there.
Lehkonen is depth. Depth is a thing.

Yep, but the thing is, Habs are planning on forcing SEA to take one of Chiarot or Byron by exposing only these 2 guys as sole viable options to SEA. Therefore acquiring cap flexibility.

trading Lehkhonen for a depth d-man signed @ 1M$, that we'd lose to SEA this summer doesn't help the Habs

 

[TGWL]

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.

Gallagher
Drouin
KK
Toffoli
Anderson
Evans
Lehkhonen

**Tatar Danault and Armia not resigned until after the ED in order to open more protecting sluts

Weber
Petry
Edmundson

Allen
**Price waives knowing he needs a good backup behind him, AND knows SEA woN't pick him and his contract

Leaving the only good options to get picked by SEA being Byron and Chiarot or the likes of Kulak...

That's what will happen. Trading Lehkhonen for a d-man = we'd lose said d-man to Seattle instead of getting rid of 3.5M$ on our cap.

Any UFA left exposed will give Seattle exclusive rights to sign that player. I can see why Habs would wait on signing Danault, but I can't see him passing up an opportunity for a potential bigger role if Seattle wants him. But I suppose it's better negotiating a contact and potentially losing a player you might value more. UFA's can be protected, or left exposed for Seattle to negotiate a contract, but they won't count as exposed on the requirement list of 1 D/2 Forwards meeting the criteria of games played. The idea of waiting to sign UFA's sounds good until you lose them. But again, if Montreal doesn't see Danault long term, or wants to pay what he's asking, it makes sense.

 

[Mersss]

Any UFA left exposed will give Seattle exclusive rights to sign that player. I can see why Habs would wait on signing Danault, but I can't see him passing up an opportunity for a potential bigger role if Seattle wants him. But I suppose it's better negotiating a contact and potentially losing a player you might value more. UFA's can be protected, or left exposed for Seattle to negotiate a contract, but they won't count as exposed on the requirement list of 1 D/2 Forwards meeting the criteria of games played. The idea of waiting to sign UFA's sounds good until you lose them. But again, if Montreal doesn't see Danault long term, or wants to pay what he's asking, it makes sense.

Again, Danult and tatar possibly already have a handshake deal with bergervin to come back post ED. At that point, if SEA wants to give more $$ and more years to Danault (north of 5.5 X 5 years), go for it, they'll regret it instantly. I do not see Danault leaving for anything under 6M / year tho.

 

[glenbuis]

It's just a bad idea.

ANY D-man we'd be getting would be picked by SEA in the ED, preventing them from taking Chiarot and his contract. Trading Lehkhonen for that d-man would also mean havign to keep Chiarot next year, and his caphit would hurt the Habs too much.

Gallagher
Drouin
KK
Toffoli
Anderson
Evans
Lehkhonen

**Tatar Danault and Armia not resigned until after the ED in order to open more protecting sluts

Weber
Petry
Edmundson

Allen
**Price waives knowing he needs a good backup behind him, AND knows SEA woN't pick him and his contract

Leaving the only good options to get picked by SEA being Byron and Chiarot or the likes of Kulak...

That's what will happen. Trading Lehkhonen for a d-man = we'd lose said d-man to Seattle instead of getting rid of 3.5M$ on our cap.

Dollar for dollar mete will be a good option for Seattle to don’t forget . It’s not a situation where you determine who you are exposing and they pick from what you wanna get rid of . You protect your 1-3-7 or 1-4-4 and everyone after is fair game who meet the games or seasons played requirements. I really don’t think price will do that either .

 

[glenbuis]

Yep, but the thing is, Habs are planning on forcing SEA to take one of Chiarot or Byron by exposing only these 2 guys as sole viable options to SEA. Therefore acquiring cap flexibility.

trading Lehkhonen for a depth d-man signed @ 1M$, that we'd lose to SEA this summer doesn't help the Habs

If lehkonen is our loss in the expansion draft I would consider it a win because we get to keep Allen .

 

[glenbuis]

Yep, but the thing is, Habs are planning on forcing SEA to take one of Chiarot or Byron by exposing only these 2 guys as sole viable options to SEA. Therefore acquiring cap flexibility.

trading Lehkhonen for a depth d-man signed @ 1M$, that we'd lose to SEA this summer doesn't help the Habs

I’m not getting the forcing of Seattle to take chariot and Byron as the sole viable options.