Player Discussion Artemi Panarin
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BreadKick
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Don't take me wrong. I am too young as a specialist to be in argument with you guys that watched the game million years. Gosh, we don't even have a team here, no single player in the NHL. And probably I am the single soul to watch Rangers here. So you better don't take my opinion as capable to drag the argument south, no way. Still be careful - I might represent the whole country in some pool
)edit: we have hockey teams, but... don't make me cry
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EdJovanovski
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McDavid is better but when you're comparing the #1 player in the league with another top 5 player, there are areas where Panarin is better than McDavid. I'd argue Panarin has a better shot, he's more gritty, better defensively, more determination/clutchness, more fun personality. I think you could also argue playmaking ability and hands for either player.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
The Breadman reminds you of a multi year selke winning pass first center who had a stoic personality?
I don't see the comparison.
We are in the 21st century, so players can now be compared to players who weren't born decades apart yet from the same country.
The Breadman plays more like Patrick Kane than he does Datsyuk
BreadKick
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Pavel was his favorite player and Artemiy said many times he wish he could play like Datsyuk.
CaptTennille
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Although he is not a carbon copy, I do see a little Datsyuk in Panarin.
His ability to steal pucks with a long stick lift is more Datsyuk than Kane, but the way he works off the boards is more Patrick than Pavel. His speed and elusive footwork is also more reminiscent of Kane, while a kid like Petterson is more like Datsyuk in that they move their feet less and wait for players to attack them at a stand-still before busting out elimination moves.
On the Datsyuk to Kane scale............
DATSYUK---------PETTERSON-----------PANARIN-----------KANE
His ability to steal pucks with a long stick lift is more Datsyuk than Kane, but the way he works off the boards is more Patrick than Pavel. His speed and elusive footwork is also more reminiscent of Kane, while a kid like Petterson is more like Datsyuk in that they move their feet less and wait for players to attack them at a stand-still before busting out elimination moves.
On the Datsyuk to Kane scale............
DATSYUK---------PETTERSON-----------PANARIN-----------KANE
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
The long stick work is text book soviet play. I also agree that the Breadman is particularly defensively responsible for such a high scoring forward particularly a winger.
That being said, outside of soviet fundamentals , I still don't see much of a comparison. That's not a knock on the Breadman at all.
Datsyuk was so cerebral. It was as if he was from the iron curtain teams even though he played in the NHL well after the fall of the Berlin wall.
Also, Datsyuk had that rather bizzare super toe of the blade biased curve so he could hold on to the puck and dish the pill. That curve only really allowed him to do those doorstop backhands. They were lethal , but his only main option none the less.
The Breadman is animated, he has curly ginger hair, he plays from the wide a slot and rips sick one timers.
Think of another Russian if Kane is too much a mental block for y'all.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
No way. He's less agile , and much smarter than Kovalev.
Maybe Mogilny fits.
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I've gotten so used to "Shestyorkin" over the years, and even in Russia they spell it that way. It's really difficult to just switch for me personally. What I don't understand is why the English Latin spelling is different from the Russian Latin spelling.
In the past I could at least understand with the jerseys using Cyrillic names do it wasn't really up for debate (Syomin/Semin), but now it's different. I guess I'll always stick to the Russian spelling with the Latin alphabet
Panarin is the more gritty player? Really?
I like Panarin as well, but he isn't close to McDavid
Kostka has him beat in terms of talent thoughMike Kostka is the best comp I could come up with
His last 2 games have sucked.
He's allowed to go cold though. He's the only reason they arent sitting in NJD territory.
He's allowed to go cold though. He's the only reason they arent sitting in NJD territory.
KirkAlbuquerque
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they haven't "sucked" they just haven't been superhuman like has was all December. Teams are zeroing in on him because they know he's dangerous, if some of the other guys can pick up the slack it should open up some more space for him. I would like Fast not to be on his line but i don't really see any alternatives, I think the Howden - Chytil - Kakko should stay together for a while and see how the chemistry develops.
Blue Blooded
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FWIW Kostka was a much more memorable Ranger than Ryan Malone.
NYR Viper
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Almost top 5 in scoring in the NHL. In the top 5 Edmonton has two guys/ Boston has two guys...Panarin has Strome
ohbaby
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Watching this game against the Avs, I'm convinced Panarin will be the only player to give McDavid a run for the money for tops in the scoring title. And I know many don't care about personal accomplishments, but who knows when the Rangers will ever have another 100+ point scorer. He's on pace for better than 110 pts. And in tonight's game vs COL he quietly garnered 3 pts. He is always around the puck. Always supporting his linemates and the puck, always backchecking, always finding open space, always knowing where to be on the ice. With his full 200 foot game and his exceptional skills handling the puck, it is really no wonder why he scores in bunches. His play this year is something to behold. He's like a little Jagr. Except unlike Jagr you can't double team him.
Bob Richards
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We've had six, 100 point scorers in franchise history
Depressing fact aside, it would be amazing for him to join it
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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I totally understand why a Russian player would change the spelling of his name.
As someone who is from the Czech Republic and doesn't speak a single word of Russian, I can still appreciate the huge difference in pronunciation between English and Czech, which is also a Slavic language and thus similar (to Russian).
A good example is Buch. The Czech transcript of Buchnevich would be Bučněvič and a quick google search tells me that the Czech letter "č" is the direct equivalent of the Russian letter "ч", which is how his name is spelled in Russian. However, if you were to write it down as Bucnevic, which is what normally happens with the English transcript of Czech names as well ("č" becomes a "c"), everyone in NA would call him [Bucknevick] just like many still pronounce the name Chara the same way as Chelios, even though the right pronunciation is completely different ([Khara]).
The bottom line is that a direct transcript usually leads most non-native speakers to mispronounce it. However, in case of Shesterkin it really is curious as "Shestyorkin" indeed appears to be closer to the original pronunciation. Maybe because the "yo" is represented by the letter "ё" so that Shesterkin looks more similar to the Russian spelling on paper? After all, we have a similar letter in Czech, which is "ě", which should be pronounced as "ye" and nobody really bothers to change it into "ye" in an English transcript, it just becomes a regular "e".
So maybe this clears things out at least a bit. My gosh, I am really procrastinating, aren't I?
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