Salary Cap: Armchair Jets GM

Mortimer Snerd

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You be the GM. You have to work with the Jets contracts, deciding who stays, who leaves, and most importantly, what will the Jets total cap hit be? If you have time, make your own projections. No criticism, no comments. Just try to be the GM.

Here is how I would assemble the 2018-19 team:


Scheifele 6,125,000
Ehlers 6,000,000
Wheeler 5,600,000
Little 5,291,666
Lowry 2,250,000
Armia 1,500,000
Tanev 1,250,000
UFA signing 1,250,000
Copp 1,000,000
Connor 925,000* (6,000,000 starting 2019)
Laine 925,000* (7,500,000 starting 2019)
Vesalainen 925,000* ELC
Roslovic 894,000* ELC
Lemieux 863,333* ELC

TOTAL 38,123,000


Byfuglien 7,600,000
Trouba 7,000,000
Morrissey 5,500,000
Kulikov 4,333,333
Poolman 1,750,000
Chiarot 1,400,000
Morrow 1,000,000
UFA Signing 1,000,000
Niku 775,000* ELC
*Stuart buyout 583,333

TOTAL 22,775,000

Hellebuyck 5,500,000
Comrie 1,000,000* (2 year contract)
UFA backup 1,000,000* (Hellebuyck backup)

TOTAL: 7,250,000



Winnipeg Jets 2018-19 Payroll: $72,609,666


Released/traded/etc:

Enstrom 5,700,000
Myers 5,500,000
Mason 4,100,000
Perreault 4,125,000
Matthias 2,125,000
Hutchinson 1,150,000
Dano 925,000
Hendricks 700,000

*Mason is the big question mark. Not sure if any team would pick him up at his salary. May have to keep him, since buying him out then acquiring a backup goalie for $1,000,000+ makes little sense.

You have 14 F's, 9 D and 3 goalies = 26 on the roster. Why? You have signed 3 UFAs to get there.

Assuming we needed that many players why would we sign any UFA F's with the system depth we have at F?
 

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Yeah I did have another one where I gave 8 year deals to Trouba, Morrissey and Hellebuyck. Wheeler could likely end up not being on this team. He has played to many season being well underpaid so it might be in his best interest to pursue FA. We could also move out Little to keep Wheeler. A lot depends on the continued development of Vesalainen and Roslovic as they are his likely replacements. We can definitely afford to go long term with Connor though and we should. Bride him and he's likely going to ask for a big raise. We'll regret that I think.

So much depends on unforeseen development and decline right now.

Agreed, there are so many moving parts. Wheeler is very interesting because his last deal turned out to be a steal for us. We really don't know what his priorities are heading into his next deal. The team can't afford to break the bank to make it up to him.
 

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I've worked over tons of different scenarios on Cap Friendly's arm chair GM feature.

There really isn't one where keeping Stastny long term works out to well for us. It also may be a bit premature to move Perreault.

My best case scenario was this.

Salary Cap is $80,000,000


Trades
Tyler Myers to Toronto for 25th overall + Andrew Nielsen
-Big savings on the cap and gets us back into the 1st round of the draft. Nielsen is a bit of a long shot but gives us someone on the Moose depth chart.


Buyout
Steve Mason - will cost us $1,366,667 for 18/19 and 19/20. Saves us $2,733,333 in the short term. Costs us the original amount in the following year but we can handle that.

Signings
Jacob Trouba - $6,500,000 x 8 years - Modified NTC (14 team no trade list)
- long term deal locked up as our 1RD for the next 8 years.

Josh Morrissey - $4,500,000 x 3 years
-bridge contract takes him to one year before UFA. Gives us some short term saving but could bite us down the road

Connor Hellebuyck - $6,000,000 x 7 years Modified NTC (10 team no trade list)
-After a Vezina calibre season Helle will be looking to get paid. We'd be wise to get him at 7 or more.

Anton Khudobin - $1,750,000 x 1 years
- Khudobin had a really solid season as a back up, has proven he can be an NHL backup and can be had for cheap. Give him a year and see how it plays out.

Adam Lowry - $2,500,000 x 4 years
Joel Armia - $1,125,000 x 2 years
Eric Comrie - $950,000 x 2 years
Kristian Vesalainen - $950,000 x 3 years (ELC)
Marko Dano - $892,500 x 1 year (QO)
Nic Petan - $874,125 x 1 year (QO)
Tuck Poolman - $874,125 x 1 year (QO)
Skyler McKenzie - $850,000 x 3 years (ELC)
Jordan Stallard - $850,000 x 3 years (ELC)
J.C Lipon - $715,000 x 1 year (QO)
Jamie Phillips - $715,000 x 1 year (QO)
Joe Morrow - $715,000 x 1 year (QO)
Chase De Leo - $708,750 x 1 year (QO)


This gives us $6,575,085 in cap space to play with heading into the season. We will likely have to find out what to do with Petan/Dano/Morrow/Poolman/Chiarot as some could be waiver wire pickups.

This also gives us $20,364,168 heading into the 18/19 season. Where we have to get deals done with Laine, Connor, Wheeler. It's not going to be easy but this is likely where we look at moving Perreault out to keep Wheeler as he gets a slight raise.

Moving Perreault out gives us $24,489,168 in 19/20.

Laine - $9,500,000 x 8 years
Connor - $6,000,000 x 7 years
Wheeler - $6,000,000 x 3 years
= $21,500,000

Which leaves us with $2,989,168 in cap space heading into 19/20.
They won't buy out Mason, and shouldn't. They can't carry his cap into 2019.

You missed Copp.

Lowry is too low.

I think Morrissey signs long term. If he signs a bridge it won't be for $4.5M. More like Trouba's 2 year deal.

I think the Jets might trade Perreault and maybe Myers before next season to get another 2/3 C that can provide some offense. Otherwise, they'll probably keep them for a run next season. I won't be surprised if they move Myers to 2 LD with Buff and move Poolman in as 3 RD.

Not a chance that Wheeler signs for more than 10% less than Marleau did... He's much better and much younger.
 

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Here's mine:

2018/2019
Little$5,291,666
Wheeler$5,600,000
Perreault$4,125,000
Scheifele$6,125,000
Ehlers$6,000,000
Laine$925,000
Connor$925,000
Copp$1,800,000
Dano$875,000
Lowry$3,200,000
Armia$2,000,000
Roslovic$894,166
Tanev$950,000
$40,110,832
Byfuglien$7,600,000
Trouba$6,250,000
Morrissey$3,100,000
Poolman$1,200,000
Niku$775,000
Chiarot$1,750,000
Morrow$1,000,000
Kulikov$4,333,333
$26,008,333
Hellebuyck$5,500,000
Mason$4,100,000
2 Goalies$9,600,000
23 Players
Total$74,319,165
Projected cap $80,000,000
Possible Bonuses$3,895,000
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[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Not re-signed:
Hutch
Matthias
Hendricks
Stastny

Extended:
Trouba

Traded:
Myers

Starting in the Press Box:
Dano
Chiarot
Morrow

BTW, I found a mistake in the Cap tables I've posted previously. I gave Wheeler his raise a year early so we are in a little better shape for next year than I had thought. That makes it easier to live with Mason's contract 1 more year.
 
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Agreed, there are so many moving parts. Wheeler is very interesting because his last deal turned out to be a steal for us. We really don't know what his priorities are heading into his next deal. The team can't afford to break the bank to make it up to him.
To keep Wheeler, I think the Jets need to trade term for AAV. I could see a 6-7 year deal at a $5.75-6M cap hit. I think he'll be looking for a total package around $40M. Not sure the Jets will go for it.
 

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Here's mine:
2018/2019
Little$5,291,666
Wheeler$5,600,000
Perreault$4,125,000
Scheifele$6,125,000
Ehlers$6,000,000
Laine$925,000
Connor$925,000
Copp$1,800,000
Dano$875,000
Lowry$3,200,000
Armia$2,000,000
Roslovic$894,166
Tanev$950,000
$40,110,832
Byfuglien$7,600,000
Trouba$6,250,000
Morrissey$3,100,000
Poolman$1,200,000
Niku$775,000
Chiarot$1,750,000
Morrow$1,000,000
Kulikov$4,333,333
$26,008,333
Hellebuyck$5,500,000
Mason$4,100,000
2 Goalies$9,600,000
23 Players
Total$74,319,165
Projected cap $80,000,000
Possible Bonuses$3,895,000
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Not re-signed:
Hutch
Matthias
Hendricks
Stastny

Extended:
Trouba

Traded:
Myers

Starting in the Press Box:
Dano
Chiarot
Morrow

BTW, I found a mistake in the Cap tables I've posted previously. I gave Wheeler his raise a year early so we are in a little better shape for next year than I had thought. That makes it easier to live with Mason's contract 1 more year.
This looks about right, to me.

Anyone interested in something around Myers for Brassard?
 

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They won't buy out Mason, and shouldn't. They can't carry his cap into 2019.

You missed Copp.

Lowry is too low.

I think Morrissey signs long term. If he signs a bridge it won't be for $4.5M. More like Trouba's 2 year deal.

I think the Jets might trade Perreault and maybe Myers before next season to get another 2/3 C that can provide some offense. Otherwise, they'll probably keep them for a run next season. I won't be surprised if they move Myers to 2 LD with Buff and move Poolman in as 3 RD.

Not a chance that Wheeler signs for more than 10% less than Marleau did... He's much better and much younger.


This is what we would do. I know the Jets won't buy out Mason. They've said they won't buy out Mason. I'd buy out Mason. short term savings > 1 year of a small cap hit.

Copp is signed through 18/19. He likely doesn't get much of a raise even if.

Lowry is right on the ball park for what he does.

I agree I want Morrissey long term. Morrissey hasn't proven to be as good production wise as Trouba did. Doubt he gets what Trouba did. Nobody pays you for your shutdown abilities. Nobody smart anyways.

It's really easy to say we'll trade Myers and Perreault to get another 2C. But nobody is giving us a 2C even if we package those two together. And there are no good 2C's in FA other than Stastny who will likely be an overpaid 2C.

I'd rather move Myers out then move him to the left side and block someone like Niku from coming in.

Agree about Wheeler he will get paid.
 

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To keep Wheeler, I think the Jets need to trade term for AAV. I could see a 6-7 year deal at a $5.75-6M cap hit. I think he'll be looking for a total package around $40M. Not sure the Jets will go for it.

That seems far too risky for a 33 year old player that plays an in your face physical style. No idea what Chevy will do on this one.
 
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I think 2018 looks very much like this season, except Roslovic makes the big club and Enstrom is replaced at LD by Morrow or maybe Poolman.

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Little-Wheeler
Perreault-Roslovic-Armia
Copp-Lowry-Tanev

Morrissey-Trouba
Morrow-Buff
Kulikov-Myers

Hellebuyck / Mason

PB - Petan, Lemieux, Chiarot

You really think Morrow and even Poolman are ahead of Chiarot? He had a very good season this year and improved steadily as the year progressed.

I don't think Roslovic starts the year at 3C. He may be there before the season ends. Start with:
Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Laine
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Tanev-Copp-Armia

Just guessing but I think Fefe and Wheeler want to be together. They get what they want.
 

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Here's mine:
2018/2019
Little$5,291,666
Wheeler$5,600,000
Perreault$4,125,000
Scheifele$6,125,000
Ehlers$6,000,000
Laine$925,000
Connor$925,000
Copp$1,800,000
Dano$875,000
Lowry$3,200,000
Armia$2,000,000
Roslovic$894,166
Tanev$950,000
$40,110,832
Byfuglien$7,600,000
Trouba$6,250,000
Morrissey$3,100,000
Poolman$1,200,000
Niku$775,000
Chiarot$1,750,000
Morrow$1,000,000
Kulikov$4,333,333
$26,008,333
Hellebuyck$5,500,000
Mason$4,100,000
2 Goalies$9,600,000
23 Players
Total$74,319,165
Projected cap $80,000,000
Possible Bonuses$3,895,000
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Not re-signed:
Hutch
Matthias
Hendricks
Stastny

Extended:
Trouba

Traded:
Myers

Starting in the Press Box:
Dano
Chiarot
Morrow

BTW, I found a mistake in the Cap tables I've posted previously. I gave Wheeler his raise a year early so we are in a little better shape for next year than I had thought. That makes it easier to live with Mason's contract 1 more year.

I think Lowry might be to high.
Armia is hard to gauge.
I think Helle won't sign for anything less than 6 with the cap going up.
I'd just give Poolman, Morrow, Petan and Dano their QO's. They haven't really done anything to deserve that big of raises.
You also gave Copp an $800,000 raise when his contract is signed through 18/19 at $1,000,000.
 

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Hometown discount :)

...and the Sharks will regret the Kane deal. Absolutely horrible contract. Mike Milbury would be proud.

The hometown discount will still be 9+. It is not just the Kane contract. We also have Draisaitl and Eichel so far and more to come. Wait till you see Matthews and Tavares!

If someone starts a pool I'm taking 8x9.5 and hoping it is not higher.
 
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This looks about right, to me.

Anyone interested in something around Myers for Brassard?

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Brassard only has 1 year left (same goes for Myers though). That could be good or bad depending on a lot of other factors. Big plus is that we don't then need to trade our first for a C at the TD again.

Would Pitt do it though?
 

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The hometown discount will still be 9+. It is not just the Kane contract. We also have Draisaitl and Eichel so far and more to come. Wait till you see Matthews and Tavares!

If someone starts a pool I'm taking 8x9.5 and hoping it is not higher.

Yeah that seems like the probable outcome. $9.5 is likely going to be the rate with a $5+ mil increase to the cap.
 

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I'd do that in a heartbeat. Brassard only has 1 year left (same goes for Myers though). That could be good or bad depending on a lot of other factors. Big plus is that we don't then need to trade our first for a C at the TD again.

Would Pitt do it though?

I don't know if Pitt would. They've one two cups being top heavy. Maybe they decide they need some help on defence? Though are they looking for an offensive type?
 

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I think Lowry might be to high.
Armia is hard to gauge.
I think Helle won't sign for anything less than 6 with the cap going up.
I'd just give Poolman, Morrow, Petan and Dano their QO's. They haven't really done anything to deserve that big of raises.
You also gave Copp an $800,000 raise when his contract is signed through 18/19 at $1,000,000.

Oops with Copp. Same mistake I made with Wheeler. Too many copy and pastes between different versions. :laugh:

I think Lowry has earned that as a 3C. Gets a lot of sunshine from Maurice. I could be wrong, of course but I doubt he gets less than 3 mil.

I started Helle at ~ 4.5 and kept raising it as the season progressed. He still has 2 RFA years left and goalies don't usually get the big $$$ ( except Price and see how that looks now). Still not that confident in the number, maybe it should be 6.

Pretty sure Rinne wins the Vezina. If Bucky won that it would go up to at least 6 for sure, maybe more.

You're probably right about the others. I figured Poolman gets a little more because of his short ELC/age. Hard to gauge how that situation affects contracts. Small differences in the big picture but every little bit helps.
 

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Oops with Copp. Same mistake I made with Wheeler. Too many copy and pastes between different versions. :laugh:

I think Lowry has earned that as a 3C. Gets a lot of sunshine from Maurice. I could be wrong, of course but I doubt he gets less than 3 mil.

I started Helle at ~ 4.5 and kept raising it as the season progressed. He still has 2 RFA years left and goalies don't usually get the big $$$ ( except Price and see how that looks now). Still not that confident in the number, maybe it should be 6.

Pretty sure Rinne wins the Vezina. If Bucky won that it would go up to at least 6 for sure, maybe more.

You're probably right about the others. I figured Poolman gets a little more because of his short ELC/age. Hard to gauge how that situation affects contracts. Small differences in the big picture but every little bit helps.

Yeah I imagine a lot of these contracts won't be static dollar amounts. Chevy will pinch every nickle out of each contract I'd imagine.
 
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The hometown discount will still be 9+. It is not just the Kane contract. We also have Draisaitl and Eichel so far and more to come. Wait till you see Matthews and Tavares!

If someone starts a pool I'm taking 8x9.5 and hoping it is not higher.

I still say Laine's cap hit will be closer to $8,000,000 per season, especially if he signs a relatively long contract. The Kane and Draisaitl contracts were horrible, and they should not have received as much as they did.
 
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This is what I would do, not all of this I actually expect will happen:

Draft:
  • Trade Perrault and Lemieux (Chirelli type) to Edmonton at the draft for the 10th overall and Bensen.
  • Draft Noah Dobson with the 10th pick (RD to replace Buff in 3 years)
  • Trade Chariot for a 3rd or 4th round pick
  • Trade Dano for a 3rd round pick (He deserves to play, the org should do the right thing here)
Signings:
  • Sign Morrissey to a 7 year contract worth an AAV of $5.25 million
  • Sign Trouba to a 5 year contract with an AAV of $6.5 million
  • Sign Helle to a 5 year contract with an AAV of $5.25 million
  • Sign Armia to a 3 year deal with an an AAV of $2 million
  • Sign Lowry to a 4 year deal with an AAV of $3 million
  • Sign Laine to an 8 year deal with an AAV of $8.5 million
  • Sign Tanev to a 2 year deal with an AAC of $1 million
  • Sign Morrow to a 1 year deal worth $1 million
  • Sign Poolman to a 2 year deal with an AAV of $1 million
  • Sign Petan to a 2 year one way deal with an $800 thousand
  • Sign Lipon 1 year $800k to be one of our depth forwards
  • Sign vet forward 1 year $800k to be one of our depth forwards
  • Sign Vesalinen to a similar ELC to Roslovic
  • Sign Mckenzie and Stallard to ELC's
Here is the depth chart with cap hits built in (Note all bonuses are included in the players total cap value where applicable):

Forwards
Line Left WingCenterRight Wing Total
1Connor, KyleScheifele, Mark Laine, Patrick
1,775,000 6,125,000 3,575,000 11,475,000
2Ehlers, NickLittle, BrianWheeler, Blake
6,000,0005,291,6665,600,000 16,891,666
3Nic PetanRoslovic, JackArmia, Joel
800,0001,106,6662,000,000 3,906,666
4Copp, AndewLowry, AdamTanev, Brandon
1,000,000 3,000,000 1,000,000 5,000,000
ExtrasExtra 1Extra 2
800,000 800,000 1,600,000
Froward total 38,873,332
Defense
PairLeft DefenseRight Defense
1Morrissey, JoshTrouba, Jacob
5,250,000 6,500,000 11,750,000
2 Niku, Sami Byfuglien, Dustin
916,667 7,600,000 8,516,667
3 Kulikov, Dmitry Myers, Tyler
4,333,333 5,500,000 9,833,333
Extras Poolman, Tucker
1,000,000 1,000,000
Defense Total 31,100,000
GoaliesStarterBackup
Hellebuyck, ConnorMason, Steve
5,250,000 4,100,000 9,350,000
BuyoutStuart, Marc
583,333 583,333
Grand Total 79,906,665
Estimated Cap Ceiling 80,000,000
Cap space remaining 93,335
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Interesting. I like your Edm trade and draft but I don't think MP + Lemmy get 10OA, much less adding Benson. Not even from Chiarelli.

Judging from what I've seen here Oil fans think they need D more than anything. IMO, they need speed on the wings, especially the left side but that is just my opinion. So what about Myers + Lemieux for 10OA? Maybe move Perreault in a separate deal to maximize the return. Or Myers, MP + Lemmy for 10OA + Ethan Bear. Just spitballing here.

Agree about Dano. He should play somewhere.

I wouldn't trade Chiarot. He has improved and is very good depth, plays both sides. If traded, I think he is worth more than a 4th, more than Dano. He is a D man who has shown he can handle playing every day at 3LD on one of the top teams in the league.
 

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I'd do that in a heartbeat. Brassard only has 1 year left (same goes for Myers though). That could be good or bad depending on a lot of other factors. Big plus is that we don't then need to trade our first for a C at the TD again.

Would Pitt do it though?
Add Perreault and receive a suitable add from the Pens, maybe. Jets would need to retain salary, or maybe facilitate a trade (Kessel?) like Vegas did to give the Pens some cap relief.
 
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I expect almost everyone to be back next year. Dont think there is a rush to trade Myers. Maybe at the deadline if they feel like one of the younger Dmen can safely take his spot. Theyre better with him than without him imo

Is a Mason buyout not an option? Would only cost 1.37m for the next 2 years. Tack on 1.25 for a backup goalie and it still saves a reasonable amount this year.

Moving Perreault makes the most sense move wise. Lemieux might be able to fill that role just fine
 

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I still say Laine's cap hit will be closer to $8,000,000 per season, especially if he signs a relatively long contract. The Kane and Draisaitl contracts were horrible, and they should not have received as much as they did.

We have to remember there will be a major cap increase that will affect all contracts going forward.
$9.5 per will make him the 3rd highest paid RW in the game. And the only one of those to score 40+ goals by his 20th birthday. 9.5 will only be 11.89% of an $80mil cap. which is a lower % than what Kane, Perry, Kessel, Ovi and Benn signed for under the current cap.
 

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I expect almost everyone to be back next year. Dont think there is a rush to trade Myers. Maybe at the deadline if they feel like one of the younger Dmen can safely take his spot. Theyre better with him than without him imo

Is a Mason buyout not an option? Would only cost 1.37m for the next 2 years. Tack on 1.25 for a backup goalie and it still saves a reasonable amount this year.

Moving Perreault makes the most sense move wise. Lemieux might be able to fill that role just fine

I'd rather move Myers than Perreault at this time. Lemieux has a lot to prove and it's not like we don't have suitable replacements for Myers. Especially on the PP.
Agree about Mason though but Chevy just publicly stated they won't buy him out.
 

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You really think Morrow and even Poolman are ahead of Chiarot? He had a very good season this year and improved steadily as the year progressed.

I don't think Roslovic starts the year at 3C. He may be there before the season ends. Start with:
Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Laine
Perreault-Lowry-Roslovic
Tanev-Copp-Armia

Just guessing but I think Fefe and Wheeler want to be together. They get what they want.
Morrow played the final elimination game over Chiarot. I think Maurice finally realized that his lack of mobility and puck sense was a liability in today's NHL.

I think Poolman is going to win a spot out of training camp.
 

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I still say Laine's cap hit will be closer to $8,000,000 per season, especially if he signs a relatively long contract. The Kane and Draisaitl contracts were horrible, and they should not have received as much as they did.

Those contracts are horrible. 1 horrible contract may not affect the market much, 2-3-4 will. Matthews will get at least as much as Eichel, probably more. So figure 10.5 for him. Laine's agent will argue for what Matthews gets. I don't think he gets that, but he will try. Then he will argue for what Eichel got. Both taken 2nd OA. So they settle at 9.5. Hope I'm wrong, but for planning at this point, I'd rather be on the safe side. Hometown discounts are mostly fairy tales - very rare exceptions, IMO.
 

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