Speculation: Armchair GM thread: Hamonic frequencies

[InfinityIggy]

This doesn't make sense. He has a limited NTC too. He had to submit a list of x # of teams he wouldn't go to I thought.

I imagine the club could force him to do that, but it sounds like they want to work with him to find a landing spot. He does have a lot of history with the club so not surprising to see them treat him right.

Similar to what happened with the Iginla trade, they pretty much let Iginla choose.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

It's hilarious he wants to go to Vegas. Good luck..

 

[Volica]

It's hilarious he wants to go to Vegas. Good luck..

MAF was only a good option for the right price.
If he wants to get pounded every night for the next few years, best of luck to him

 

[djpatm]

Not surprised that any goalie with a choice wouldn't want to come here.

We are a fully certified goalie graveyard now. Our starter got us into the playoffs with a huge run of top of the line play and now we are running him out of town cause of 4 bad playoff games and a bad start when the entire team was garbage. Add in Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio....

Would you want to come here?

I can just imagine a NHL goalie fb group where there is a pinned post saying "AVOID CALGARY" at the top of the page.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

MAF was only a good option for the right price.
If he wants to get pounded every night for the next few years, best of luck to him

Well I am making an assumption that Treliving has ever made an offer for Fleury, where maybe Fleury was not asked to waive to come here and GMGM has officially made an inquiry in which case Fleury has "only" waived for the Knights.

Treliving calling and making an offer are 2 different things.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Not surprised that any goalie with a choice wouldn't want to come here.

We are a fully certified goalie graveyard now. Our starter got us into the playoffs with a huge run of top of the line play and now we are running him out of town cause of 4 bad playoff games and a bad start when the entire team was garbage. Add in Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio....

Would you want to come here?

I can just imagine a NHL goalie fb group where there is a pinned post saying "AVOID CALGARY" at the top of the page.

Sigalet has to go. The results speak for themselves.

 

[Volica]

Not surprised that any goalie with a choice wouldn't want to come here.

We are a fully certified goalie graveyard now. Our starter got us into the playoffs with a huge run of top of the line play and now we are running him out of town cause of 4 bad playoff games and a bad start when the entire team was garbage. Add in Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio....

Would you want to come here?

I can just imagine a NHL goalie fb group where there is a pinned post saying "AVOID CALGARY" at the top of the page.

Yup.
I'm happy to see the major NHL success Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio are having these days.

 

[Volica]

Anyone find it funny:
HFBoards: LOLOLOLOL Vegas getting MAF, better goalie than Calgary, HAHAHAHE@TQGEG

IF Calgary trades for Fleury before the E/D
HFBoards: LOLOLOLOL Calgary getting a washed up goalie, AHAhehh3hea

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Anyone find it funny:
HFBoards: LOLOLOLOL Vegas getting MAF, better goalie than Calgary, HAHAHAHE@TQGEG

IF Calgary trades for Fleury before the E/D
HFBoards: LOLOLOLOL Calgary getting a washed up goalie, AHAhehh3hea

Considering HF is 50% edmonton fans, 10% edmonton fans pretending to be unbiased Flames fans (you know who you are) and 30% bandwagon fans, sounds about right.

 

[djpatm]

Yup.
I'm happy to see the major NHL success Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio are having these days.

You think that matters to potential Flames goalies? They see 6 goalies in 4 years and a Canadian fan base that will roast you if you have shaky stretches. On top of that, Fluery has had his own consistency problems and although he has the cups, his career playoff numbers are far from solid.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Calgary is a graveyard for goalies. I'm going to go play for Vegas

 

[djpatm]

You're Fluery. A millionaire in your 30's that is getting old for hockey but is still decently young overall. You've won 3 Stanley Cups.

Do you go to warm, sunny Las Vegas where you have countless options to enjoy your money, can probably live a decently normal life off the ice and have little pressure playing on a team that no one expects to win? Or do you go to a cold, Canadian city where your play will be front page news and everyone expects you not just to win enough to make the playoffs, but to dominate and be the answer for the next 3 or 4 years, and you know that they have ran 6 goalies out of town in the last 4 years?

Guy has nothing to prove.

 

[Anglesmith]

My interpretation of that tweet is that v Fleury is waiving for the expansion draft, but isn't going to outright waive his NTC and accept a trade just anywhere. Not that he's only willing to go to Vegas.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

I would welcome our new goalie.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

You're Fluery. A millionaire in your 30's that is getting old for hockey but is still decently young overall. You've won 3 Stanley Cups.

Do you go to warm, sunny Las Vegas where you have countless options to enjoy your money, can probably live a decently normal life off the ice and have little pressure playing on a team that no one expects to win? Or do you go to a cold, Canadian city where your play will be front page news and everyone expects you not just to win enough to make the playoffs, but to dominate and be the answer for the next 3 or 4 years, and you know that they have ran 6 goalies out of town in the last 4 years?

Guy has nothing to prove.

What a terrible post, my God. Have you ever watched professional sports?

I mean if this were true why not refuse to waive, get bought out and go retire and go live on a tropical Island. Fleury wants to go somewhere and start. These guys are professional athletes and thrive on competition. 99% of atheletes only care about winning especially after they've made their millions. It would be shocking to me for anyone to chose an expansion team over a team that looks to be on verge of being a contender for years.

 

[Lunatik]

Wow, that's bad. Would have thought thought they'd prefer to move Seabrook but apparently they really still like his intangibles.

He has a full NMC, there is a good chance that his trade list is either tiny or non-existent, which makes his value plummet even more and it was bad enough already with that contract.

 

[Lunatik]

I imagine the club could force him to do that, but it sounds like they want to work with him to find a landing spot. He does have a lot of history with the club so not surprising to see them treat him right.

Similar to what happened with the Iginla trade, they pretty much let Iginla choose.

His list is turned in every July IIRC. There is a very good chance any team seeking a goalie right now, is on his no trade list.

 

[BurnEmUp]

I'd take Seabrook for cheap if the Hawks retain about a mill and a half.

Him and Gio can be the old balls brothers in a few years eating up 12 or so million of cap space haha

Yeah maybe not a great idea lol

Giordano - Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Seabrook

That does look awesome for a couple seasons though. Damn stupid terrible contracts.

 

[Anglesmith]

You're Fluery. A millionaire in your 30's that is getting old for hockey but is still decently young overall. You've won 3 Stanley Cups.

Do you go to warm, sunny Las Vegas where you have countless options to enjoy your money, can probably live a decently normal life off the ice and have little pressure playing on a team that no one expects to win? Or do you go to a cold, Canadian city where your play will be front page news and everyone expects you not just to win enough to make the playoffs, but to dominate and be the answer for the next 3 or 4 years, and you know that they have ran 6 goalies out of town in the last 4 years?

Guy has nothing to prove.

Which goalies have the Flames "run out of town" the last few years? We are not Toronto. We don't typically shine the microscope and vilify guys the way the bigger markets do. Fact of the matter is, the last guy we had in net who showed he could provide above average goaltending over a full season and handle the load a starter held the job down until he retired.

 

[TkachuksMouthguard]

The best thing for the Calgary net is some sort of consistency. This is not a team that can bring in a new goalie and they just fit right in and steal games. Last few seasons are proof that the skaters are young and shaky, and by changing goalies, it can have an effect on the team from the start. Unless you bring in someone like Lundqvist, Holtby or Price, who automatically instil total confidence into the team, you will have shaky results. As much potential as guys like Grubauer, Raanta etc have, a shaky team in front will quickly lead to bad results and another goalie down the drain.

Bring back Elliot and back him up with someone young.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hjalmarsson

That might be the best defence in the league. A pity the Blackhawks, even if they do move Hjalmarsson, would do so to the east. And in addition, Gulzutan handedness problem becomes another obstacle.

Can't see why the Blackhawks would move Hjalmarsson anyway.

Who says we need Hjalmarsson to play the right side.

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Andersson
Hjalmarsson-Stone

That bottom pairing is easily the best in the league and there's zero competition, even Jackman-Jones of the Preds and Gunnarsson-Parayko of the Blues during 2015-2016 weren't anywhere close, and they were easily the 2 best bottom pairings in the league in 2015-2016.

Defensively our corps is better than the Preds even if it isn't as deadly and offensive. Then again, Brodie and Hamilton for two consecutive seasons finished top 5 in 5 on 5 scoring in 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 respectively. So our offense from D is already underrated.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I'd take Seabrook for cheap if the Hawks retain about a mill and a half.

Him and Gio can be the old balls brothers in a few years eating up 12 or so million of cap space haha

Yeah maybe not a great idea lol

Giordano - Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Seabrook

That does look awesome for a couple seasons though. Damn stupid terrible contracts.

Thank goodness Brodie has one of the best contracts in the league, but even with that hell no to Seabrook, unless he's at half price. At worst Seabrook will still be a decent #5 during the late years of his contract and a #5 in 2020 making 3.4mill a year isn't too bad, even if it isn't good.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Not surprised that any goalie with a choice wouldn't want to come here.

We are a fully certified goalie graveyard now. Our starter got us into the playoffs with a huge run of top of the line play and now we are running him out of town cause of 4 bad playoff games and a bad start when the entire team was garbage. Add in Hiller, Ramo, Berra and Ortio....

Would you want to come here?

I can just imagine a NHL goalie fb group where there is a pinned post saying "AVOID CALGARY" at the top of the page.

Our same starter also cost us many games earlier on and in the middle of the season. As a whole Elliott had a below average year and required an insane run just to reach below average stats, before imploding in the playoffs. When a goalie has a LDSv% more than 10 percent lower than league average, that is dreadful and it doesn't matter if the Flames were allowing 20+ HDSA a game (Which they didn't, Flames actually did well in limiting high quality chances in the playoffs, not good, but better than every team except for Wild, Senators, Preds, and Blues (In fact the Flames had more high quality chances than the Ducks, Gibson and Bernier were obviously far better, but not just that our players couldn't convert at all (Gaudreau passing instead of shooting...).

 

[Sparky93]

What about Girardi + 21st/Raanta for Brouwer?

Same term, we could use a replacement for Engelland. Doesn't help us cap wise but it's only an extra million. Coming out of the draft with Foote + Kostin or even picking up Raanta would be worth it, IMO.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

What about Girardi + 21st/Raanta for Brouwer?

Same term, we could use a replacement for Engelland. Doesn't help us cap wise but it's only an extra million. Coming out of the draft with Foote + Kostin or even picking up Raanta would be worth it, IMO.

No it wouldn't Girardi is bad even as a bottom pairing D. He has a NMC. Absolutely no.