Speculation: Armchair GM thread: Hamonic frequencies

[DFF]

LV will surprise everyone and pick Stajan/Bouma or Brouwer

The Flames' available "prospects" are pale compared to other teams

They need some vets

BTW, I hope LV picks Kulak, the Flames need toughness and defense on the bottom pairing....not a figure skater

My first choice is Brouwer or Bouma though

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Defending players =/= fanboy. The fact you can't distinguish that difference is not surprising to me at all.

I have no issue admitting Kulak played better than I expected, it happens. But considering your history of outright fabricating things to put down prospects, you should really not talk, at least I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

Kulak could be a good 3rd pairing defenseman, but he is not solid enough defensively or physically and doesn't have the puck skills to make up for those deficiencies, let alone a top pairing defenseman. Me praising Klimchuk, was saying he was better than Poirier and Klimchuk has done nothing but prove me right. But unlike you I'm not going to make stupid statements like he has 1st line potential, I've stated he has middle 6 potential from the get go, and that is exactly what he is trending to do.

I've actually admitted several times that I was impressed with Klimchuk this season. I still don't see him as anything more then a 4th line PK specialist. But I could be wrong if he keeps improving.

And yes. I think Kulak has first pairing potential. Is it likely? No. But who saw Giordano as a top pairing guy at 23? But when a player can skate and move laterally without losing speed, like very few can do, that player has elite potential. Being faster then everyone else is a huge advantage. I'll be shocked if he's not a 3/4 during his peak. And if he's not. Well then you guys can rub it in my face all you want,

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Kulak is not going to be a top pairing Dman. Take a guy like Ellis, fantastic skater (better than Kulak), great vision and passing, can get a shot on net and is solid in his own end. Ellis is a very good #3, not a top pairing guy though, I don't think Kulak will ever be as good as Ellis is because he has more holes in his game. It's not knocking him, it's just the truth. Both Gio and Brodie showed more in their skillset than Kulak has.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Kulak is not going to be a top pairing Dman. Take a guy like Ellis, fantastic skater (better than Kulak), great vision and passing, can get a shot on net and is solid in his own end. Ellis is a very good #3, not a top pairing guy though

...If Ellis were 6'2" like Kulak and not 5'10" I don't think he would be a #3... he would be a high-end #1. Poor comparision. I don't see Kulak being a sure top pair guy but he still has the potential to play there successfully. I also don't think Kulak is a Brodie type defenseman or a Gio type defenseman. Those guys are #1s. You don't have to be a #1 to be a top pairing D, just look at Dougie who is a mess without a #1 to carry him. Kulak has his flaws but he can do some things exceptionally well at the NHL level. A good comparision would be Brian Dumoulin, he's a top pairing defenseman with Kris Letang as his partner, but no one is confusing him for a #1D like Brodie or Giordano, and he's not a top pairing guy on every possible pairing. Maybe that's what we call a #3 defenseman, but plenty of good top pairs have #3 defensemen. And maybe I'm digressing too much into semantics.

 

[Lunatik]

Kulak is not going to be a top pairing Dman. Take a guy like Ellis, fantastic skater (better than Kulak), great vision and passing, can get a shot on net and is solid in his own end. Ellis is a very good #3, not a top pairing guy though, I don't think Kulak will ever be as good as Ellis is because he has more holes in his game. It's not knocking him, it's just the truth. Both Gio and Brodie showed more in the skillset than Kulak has.

Exactly this.

 

[Flameshomer]

Kulak has played 30 NHL games and hasn't looked like he'll ever be more than a 6 for more than 10 minutes.

 

[Mobiandi]

If I'm Vegas, the most attractive option is easily Stajan. Unless we make some concessions for them to take Brouwer, I think he's most likely to go

 

[FlamerForLife]

If I'm Vegas, the most attractive option is easily Stajan. Unless we make some concessions for them to take Brouwer, I think he's most likely to go

It would make sense for them too, a good veteran leader, can play solid bottom 6 minutes along with the PK, only 1 year left on his deal and if they retain 50% on him at the deadline they would probably be able to get a mid round pick in exchange for him.

I don't think Vegas even takes a look at Brouwer or Bouma. The only other options would then be signing Chiasson or taking Shinkaruk/Kulak and I think there would be better options out there then the 2 of them.

It'll be interesting to see how their roster looks come opening day.

 

[Mobiandi]

It would make sense for them too, a good veteran leader, can play solid bottom 6 minutes along with the PK, only 1 year left on his deal and if they retain 50% on him at the deadline they would probably be able to get a mid round pick in exchange for him.

I don't think Vegas even takes a look at Brouwer or Bouma. The only other options would then be signing Chiasson or taking Shinkaruk/Kulak and I think there would be better options out there then the 2 of them.

It'll be interesting to see how their roster looks come opening day.

Selecting him also makes sure they don't have to rush some prospects in the NHL. Plus if he plays well for them, they can bring him back at a reduced cap hit the following season. I'm sure he'll be the one to go

 

[InfinityIggy]

Edit: maybe we need an expansion draft thread

Good idea, thread has been created. Let's take all expansion discussion there.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Man, watching the speed of the SCF from beginning to end, I really don't see how the Flames would have kept up with the Preds and Penguins. Yes, we have some fast players (Gaudreau, Backlund, Bennett, Brodie, Gio, Frolik, Ferland) and luckily we're not as plodding as the Edmonton Maroocic's. However both the cup finals teams seemed to have wave-after-wave of explosive skaters carrying the puck with confidence and forechecking relentlessly, I don't even think the cup winning Kings and Hawks teams have been so deep. We do have some speed on the way between Jankowski and Kulak but I don't think it's enough. Is there anyone just as skilled as Versteeg out there who also happens to be a burner and cheap? Jordan Weal?

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That's exactly what IMO Sam Bennett needs on his line.

 

[Lunatik]

It pains me to admit it, but on the trade board, OKG actually had a good idea of going after Jordan Weal. The only issue would be salary demands because I imagine he will be fairly sought after as he was quite impressive when he got a chance this year.

Also needs to be pointed out his success was also post ASG on a non-playoff team, so his numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. But I think he is worth a look.

 

[Turning Mangiapanese]

Is there anyone just as skilled as Versteeg out there who also happens to be a burner and cheap? Jordan Weal?

Paul Byron

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

What would you offer for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

What would you offer for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

2 firsts + Hickey.

 

[DCDM]

Why are we trading for Hjalmarsson?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Why are we trading for Hjalmarsson?

Because with him we are the best team in the west imo

 

[DCDM]

Because with him we are the best team in the west imo

Oh, okay.

 

[Calculon]

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hjalmarsson

That might be the best defence in the league. A pity the Blackhawks, even if they do move Hjalmarsson, would do so to the east. And in addition, Gulzutan handedness problem becomes another obstacle.

Can't see why the Blackhawks would move Hjalmarsson anyway.

 

[FlamerForLife]

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hjalmarsson

That might be the best defence in the league. A pity the Blackhawks, even if they do move Hjalmarsson, would do so to the east. And in addition, Gulzutan handedness problem becomes another obstacle.

Can't see why the Blackhawks would move Hjalmarsson anyway.

Cap problems, they're currently at $77M for next season.

 

[FlamerForLife]

Can cross his name off the potential Flames goalies for next season.

 

[Calculon]

Can cross his name off the potential Flames goalies for next season.

Cap problems, they're currently at $77M for next season.

Wow, that's bad. Would have thought thought they'd prefer to move Seabrook but apparently they really still like his intangibles.

 

[FlamerForLife]

Wow, that's bad. Would have thought thought they'd prefer to move Seabrook but apparently they really still like his intangibles.

Seabrook's contract is so bad that I don't think they'd be able to move him without adding an incentive or retaining a good portion his salary, which would defeat the purpose of why they're trying to move him.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Can cross his name off the potential Flames goalies for next season.

So far. Indicates that he likely ends up in Vegas, but the possibility still exists they could ask him to waive for another team.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Can cross his name off the potential Flames goalies for next season.

This doesn't make sense. He has a limited NTC too. He had to submit a list of x # of teams he wouldn't go to I thought.