Speculation: Armchair GM 2023-24 Season. If we can't say "Rebuild" what do we call it?

[Ainsy01]

Draft day moves - packaging an aging player with the 24th pick to move up.

Coleman & 24th overall (Vancouver first), and Dallas 2nd
To
Ottawa for 7th overall

Markstrom & 24th overall
To
New Jersey for 10th overall

If Rasmus is available - which i doubt he is - does he get them into the top 5 ? Anderrsson and 24 for 5th to the Yotes?

 

[User1996]

I would think (and hope) that adding Vancouvers pick to Markstrom wouldn’t be necessary to get 10 from NJ.

It’s not the end of the world, but I feel like there’s a + that makes it doable that is not as valuable as the Canucks 1st - be it Flames or Dallas 2nd.

 

[Kranix]

Lou traded 9 straight up for Corey Schneider all those years ago

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Draft day moves - packaging an aging player with the 24th pick to move up.

Coleman & 24th overall (Vancouver first), and Dallas 2nd
To
Ottawa for 7th overall

Markstrom & 24th overall
To
New Jersey for 10th overall

If Rasmus is available - which i doubt he is - does he get them into the top 5 ? Anderrsson and 24 for 5th to the Yotes?

I don't think that Ottawa one is realistic. Jersey, maybe. I don't see Conroy doing it though.

 

[Backlund]

Lou traded 9 straight up for Corey Schneider all those years ago

Schneider was 27 when that trade was made. Markstrom is 34.

 

[Volica]

I don't think Calgary will make the Vancouver pick.
I think that's going to be the carrot dangled for a young player.

 

[viper0220]

I don't think Calgary will make the Vancouver pick.
I think that's going to be the carrot dangled for a young player.

I think that pick will be packaged together with Markstrom and D(Rasmus Andersson), the reason I am saying Rasmus Andersson is because after seeing his end of the season interview, he can clearly see that this team is going for a rebuild and he does not want to be part of that.

Rasmus Andersson, Markstrom at 50% and Vancouver’s 1st round pick can get you a very good young player.

From the season ending interviews, Markstrom and Rasmus Andersson won’t be here, there might be others, but these 2 just don’t see committed long term.

This will be a very interesting off season for the Flames, I can’t wait until the off season.

 

[herashak]

Earliest Ras gets moved is after free agency 25'. At that point you can add a free agent and then sell Ras that things change quick, package him if not

 

[IharRB]

Yegor sees himself in the team.

 

[JPeeper]

Yegor sees himself in the team.

Yeah, guy has a contract for next year as a Calgary Flame.

I don't see Conroy trading Ras barring a trade request and subsequent good offer from someone. Other than Weegar, we have no one who is top 4 quality. Kylington could be, but he's a wildcard. It's pretty clear the Flames aren't tearing the house down which trading Ras would signify. I do agree with everyone that Markstrom is probably dealt though, my assumption is the draft.

 

[Fig]

Target Gavrikov and Sergachev?
Matt Roy?
Zegras?


Retool? Unprofit?

 

[User1996]

I will be incredibly upset if Zegras is a target

 

[DomBarr]

knowing this is not what the Flames are going to do. I would prefer that they use the cap space to rescue capped teams by trading "future considerations" for a player and pick/prospects as opposed to going out and handing a UFA a bad contract (ie giving Reinhart a 7x10.5 M contract cause 50 goals and plays well with Huberdeau) OR going out and trading picks/prospects/players for an established "star" player.

 

[IharRB]

The Flames will be looking for an experienced D and C, but I don't think it's Zegras

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Target Gavrikov and Sergachev?
Matt Roy?
Zegras?


Retool? Unprofit?

Shouldn’t have put Sergachev on here as Tampa isn’t ever trading him like literally

 

[Fig]

I will be incredibly upset if Zegras is a target

Depends on whether he could be had for a crazy discount. One of the things I never minded about Treliving is how he'd pay below market for an RFA and then he'd have above market on the RFA due to a very good contract extension.

Shouldn’t have put Sergachev on here as Tampa isn’t ever trading him like literally

It was more a nod to the sudden influx of Russian players into Calgary. Unlikely for Sergachev, sure, but not impossible. Cap casualty, maybe. But I think the rising salary cap will help address that for Tampa going forward.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I will be incredibly upset if Zegras is a target

because?

Legit question.

 

[Kranix]

because?

Legit question.

The Michigan has no place on a serious hockey team

 

[User1996]

because?

Legit question.

A handful of reasons in addition to my opinion that I simply don’t believe he’s a very good player. Nor is he a player I would choose to make an important piece of a team with goals of being a contender.

Largely, I think Zary will be a better C than Zegras long-term, and I worry a move for a player more established at C will impact Zary’s development at his proper position (i.e. force him back to the wing) - as we know Kadri and Backlund aren’t making that shift.

 

[Errol Swaghammer]

The Michigan has no place on a serious hockey team

So you wouldn't have taken Sidney Crosby given the chance I see.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

A handful of reasons in addition to my opinion that I simply don’t believe he’s a very good player. Nor is he a player I would choose to make an important piece of a team with goals of being a contender.

Largely, I think Zary will be a better C than Zegras long-term, and I worry a move for a player more established at C will impact Zary’s development at his proper position (i.e. force him back to the wing) - as we know Kadri and Backlund aren’t making that shift.

Understandable then. I'm less optimistic about Zary, but I'm also wrong often enough that it doesn't matter.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Yeah - Zegras should not be a center in the NHL in my opinion, and is certainly not an asset we should be paying big time assets to acquire.

I get the appeal with the player due to his immense amount of skill and that's something we desperately lack, but that's a kid who cheats the game, and quite honestly comes across as a selfish (me first) hockey player. He may very well mature as a player and begin focusing on the small details of the game that matter but as it stands now that's not a risk I am taking unless it's at a heavily discounted price.