Frightened Inmate #2
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OK I am finally getting around to posting my ratings from the all time draft #2. I know that there are some people here that will not agree with some of my ratings and I am sorry if that is the case. I do lack a bit of hockey knowledge from different time periods and I have to rely on what I know from my readings on the players as a result but here it goes.
Offense.
Devils A – This team really isn’t the most skilled, at least in my opinion, but this is the hardest working team that I see in the draft. Every profile I have read about these men confirms that, and for that reason alone I would have to say this is a very solid offense. The two things that prevented the A+ would involve first the selection of Peter Bondra for the third line, a player whose defensive game at least in my opinion is poor at best.
Senators A- - This team had the chance to be a contender, to be something with the selections of Howe and Lemieux (even thought that was more luck than skill). Left wing is pretty weak in my opinion as to date I don’t think that Kovalchuk has proven himself. Also that first line doesn’t really have a defensive type player on it at all. At the same time Robitaille well lets just say he isn’t fleet of foot. Steve Larmer that is at least in my opinion an odd selection. I also really question the selection of Selanne for the fourth line as this past season proved how effective he was in that role. Don’t know much about Denneny but from what I have been able to read he also doesn’t seem like a fourth line type player.
Red Army A- - I know this might seem biased but I really think that the team that I have built is a very solid team from an offensive potential standpoint. I know a lot of the names I selected are not known to a majority of the fans here, but I do feel as though they are some great players. My biggest regret however has to be me deciding to drop Syl Apps… when I look back on it I think he could be the best player right now for this team. Also size is a definite issue with my lines – tough players but I feel as though they could get manhandled.
Flyers A- Size up the middle is a problem I can see right off the bat. Good group of forwards though. I would have changed Hextall and Middleton but that could really be seen as a lateral move. No big complaints. Really like the selection of Propp although I think his size could be a problem on the fourth line there, especially with Cowley and Hextall who really are not that big of players themselves.
Rangers A- – Size on the first line is a huge issue, or in the case of Jagr using that size to do anything remotely physical. I do see the logic in having LeClair and Lindros together from the Legion of Doom days but at the same time I feel as though Leclair was riding Lindros’s coat tails a lot of the time and benefited greatly from him being there (just look at what happened to LeClair after Lindros left, and what he was before he was there). That line though is big, it is tough and it is skilled. Great third line, has some scoring potential and can play a crash and bang game which is what a third line should be able to do. Fourth line I don’t like Thornton there yet, what would go great in his place though would be a big crash and bang center that could pot a few goals… I don’t know who that is but I don’t think it is Thornton. Basically another Sutter would fir into that line like a glove… actually that would be my only real lineup change I would recommend switch Thornton and Sutter. ---- I did get a laugh out of how many players drafted by the Islanders are on the rangers team.
Detroit B++/A- - It would be higher except there is a definite lack of size especially on the third line which should be required to have a little bit of muscle in my opinion. I just can’t help but think it would make a much better second line. Great fourth line though, especially Provost (who is underappreciated).
Toronto Maple Leafs B+ - A heavy emphasis on the more modern players is quite evident but at the same time I think that this could be a detriment. The reasoning behind this is that players such as Owen Nolan and Steve Thomas really are not all time greats, and would be a detriment to the team in my opinion. Also for the life of me I am trying to determine why Sundin is on the fourth line (as a right winger, a position I don’t think he really plays) and Nolan is on the third line. In general the forwards you have selected are not exceptionally fast- not slow, but my no means are they a fast team in my opinion. Left wing is a definite area of concern as Roberts is fragile (at least from his years in Calgary) and I am just not a Steve Thomas fan from the perspective of an all time team and he was a right winger, not a left winger. I do really like the 1-2 punch of Mogilny and Hull though.
Hamilton tigers B+ - Solid Lineup.... forgot about this team.
Wasps B + - Archie Stinchcombe? Who? The big complaint that I have with this team is Nilsson on the top line. He is one of the most skilled but one of the laziest players to ever play the game. Defence was also the least of his concerns – and at the same time McDonald and Beliveau are not really known for their defensive play. I do love the second line though. Very solid third line although Doug Bentley would be better suited for a second or first line role…. But I do love the selection of Verbeek. Solid fourth line but once again and Howe at least from what I have read would fit back there quite well. Jarvis is also a good pick in terms of a defensive player. Not a spectacular group but a very solid group.
Golden Seals B – Just lacking size, especially in the bottom lines there. Good group of forwards, especially the centers on the team. I am actually chuckling at the thought of Clarke with Burch and Cournoyer as I think everyone knows Clarke would kill one of the two before the end of the first game. In general a really small team, with a lineup that just at least in my opinion doesn’t seem to mesh together that well.
Calgary Flames C+ - Really I don’t like this team from an all-time team perspective. Scoring just isn’t there from well the bottom two lines and the second line is small and lacked anything in the form of a defensive conscious. With the exception of Neely the first line is also very small. Selections such as Madden shouldn’t be made in this draft (I still think he is overrated), although the bottom two lines do have a purpose I just think that scoring is at a premium. Gretzky is keeping this team from a C-
Offense.
Devils A – This team really isn’t the most skilled, at least in my opinion, but this is the hardest working team that I see in the draft. Every profile I have read about these men confirms that, and for that reason alone I would have to say this is a very solid offense. The two things that prevented the A+ would involve first the selection of Peter Bondra for the third line, a player whose defensive game at least in my opinion is poor at best.
Senators A- - This team had the chance to be a contender, to be something with the selections of Howe and Lemieux (even thought that was more luck than skill). Left wing is pretty weak in my opinion as to date I don’t think that Kovalchuk has proven himself. Also that first line doesn’t really have a defensive type player on it at all. At the same time Robitaille well lets just say he isn’t fleet of foot. Steve Larmer that is at least in my opinion an odd selection. I also really question the selection of Selanne for the fourth line as this past season proved how effective he was in that role. Don’t know much about Denneny but from what I have been able to read he also doesn’t seem like a fourth line type player.
Red Army A- - I know this might seem biased but I really think that the team that I have built is a very solid team from an offensive potential standpoint. I know a lot of the names I selected are not known to a majority of the fans here, but I do feel as though they are some great players. My biggest regret however has to be me deciding to drop Syl Apps… when I look back on it I think he could be the best player right now for this team. Also size is a definite issue with my lines – tough players but I feel as though they could get manhandled.
Flyers A- Size up the middle is a problem I can see right off the bat. Good group of forwards though. I would have changed Hextall and Middleton but that could really be seen as a lateral move. No big complaints. Really like the selection of Propp although I think his size could be a problem on the fourth line there, especially with Cowley and Hextall who really are not that big of players themselves.
Rangers A- – Size on the first line is a huge issue, or in the case of Jagr using that size to do anything remotely physical. I do see the logic in having LeClair and Lindros together from the Legion of Doom days but at the same time I feel as though Leclair was riding Lindros’s coat tails a lot of the time and benefited greatly from him being there (just look at what happened to LeClair after Lindros left, and what he was before he was there). That line though is big, it is tough and it is skilled. Great third line, has some scoring potential and can play a crash and bang game which is what a third line should be able to do. Fourth line I don’t like Thornton there yet, what would go great in his place though would be a big crash and bang center that could pot a few goals… I don’t know who that is but I don’t think it is Thornton. Basically another Sutter would fir into that line like a glove… actually that would be my only real lineup change I would recommend switch Thornton and Sutter. ---- I did get a laugh out of how many players drafted by the Islanders are on the rangers team.
Detroit B++/A- - It would be higher except there is a definite lack of size especially on the third line which should be required to have a little bit of muscle in my opinion. I just can’t help but think it would make a much better second line. Great fourth line though, especially Provost (who is underappreciated).
Toronto Maple Leafs B+ - A heavy emphasis on the more modern players is quite evident but at the same time I think that this could be a detriment. The reasoning behind this is that players such as Owen Nolan and Steve Thomas really are not all time greats, and would be a detriment to the team in my opinion. Also for the life of me I am trying to determine why Sundin is on the fourth line (as a right winger, a position I don’t think he really plays) and Nolan is on the third line. In general the forwards you have selected are not exceptionally fast- not slow, but my no means are they a fast team in my opinion. Left wing is a definite area of concern as Roberts is fragile (at least from his years in Calgary) and I am just not a Steve Thomas fan from the perspective of an all time team and he was a right winger, not a left winger. I do really like the 1-2 punch of Mogilny and Hull though.
Hamilton tigers B+ - Solid Lineup.... forgot about this team.
Wasps B + - Archie Stinchcombe? Who? The big complaint that I have with this team is Nilsson on the top line. He is one of the most skilled but one of the laziest players to ever play the game. Defence was also the least of his concerns – and at the same time McDonald and Beliveau are not really known for their defensive play. I do love the second line though. Very solid third line although Doug Bentley would be better suited for a second or first line role…. But I do love the selection of Verbeek. Solid fourth line but once again and Howe at least from what I have read would fit back there quite well. Jarvis is also a good pick in terms of a defensive player. Not a spectacular group but a very solid group.
Golden Seals B – Just lacking size, especially in the bottom lines there. Good group of forwards, especially the centers on the team. I am actually chuckling at the thought of Clarke with Burch and Cournoyer as I think everyone knows Clarke would kill one of the two before the end of the first game. In general a really small team, with a lineup that just at least in my opinion doesn’t seem to mesh together that well.
Calgary Flames C+ - Really I don’t like this team from an all-time team perspective. Scoring just isn’t there from well the bottom two lines and the second line is small and lacked anything in the form of a defensive conscious. With the exception of Neely the first line is also very small. Selections such as Madden shouldn’t be made in this draft (I still think he is overrated), although the bottom two lines do have a purpose I just think that scoring is at a premium. Gretzky is keeping this team from a C-
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