Rumor: All rumors from November 8 involving Edmonton

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I can't be the only one who wouldn't want to do this deal right... Right ?

I'd do it in a heartbeat. The Oilers would laugh Homer off the phone though.

 

[CS]

I can't be the only one who wouldn't want to do this deal right... Right ?

With the way LSchenn is playing and the way Coburn is playing, we really couldn't afford to do Simmonds + Coburn for Eberle + Smid (assuming of course Smid were still on EDM).

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

With the way LSchenn is playing and the way Coburn is playing, we really couldn't afford to do Simmonds + Coburn for Eberle + Smid (assuming of course Smid were still on EDM).

Really? If you can get Jordan Eberle I think you do it. The defense would take a hit with Smid (or whomever was brought in in this hypothetical trade), but you get a linemate for Giroux for the foreseeable future to make a pretty deadly 1-2 punch. Roll with what we have this season on defense with the remaining people, deal with replacing Coburn in the offseason via trade, draft, or free agency.

 

[odishabs]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

 

[Appleyard]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

So we get an older, less dynamic defenceman for Coburn. (don't get me wrong, very solid, great D...)

And a centre who is not as adept defensively as Couts, who was not as impressive as Couts in the NHL at the same age in a similar role... who's production would be limited on the Flyers anyway as he would be playing behind G and Vinny?

I would pass... and I am a big fan of Eller. Neither of those players are what the Flyers need, especially not for two of our more valuable pieces. Biggest needs are a PMD and a sniper.

 

[FlyingPhilly]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

You can have Mez for a 3rd round pick.

 

[CS]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

Nah. Definitely not.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I would rather knock all my teeth out with a hammer than see Couturier traded for just about any of the proposals made on HF.

 

[BernieParent]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

On the surface, the value isn't far off: Gorges is more consistent than Coburn, though Coburn at his best is more valuable than Gorges. Eller looks to be a star centre in the making, but I believe in Couturier's upside as being higher. It's not a bad proposal, but one I would turn down as a Flyers GM.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I would rather knock all my teeth out with a hammer than see Couturier traded for just about any of the proposals made on HF.

you forgot to add " knock my teeth out with a hammer while trying to play a tune"

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

With the way LSchenn is playing and the way Coburn is playing, we really couldn't afford to do Simmonds + Coburn for Eberle + Smid (assuming of course Smid were still on EDM).

you are definitely in the minority. Not that this deal would happen if Smid was still in Edmonton but I would love to have Eberle here.
Anyone who thinks Coburn and Simmonds would be enough to land Eberle is mistaken.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Would you guys entertain a deal around Eller and Gorges for Couturier and Coburn?

let me think about this for a millisec

NO.

 

[Funf]

you are definitely in the minority. Not that this deal would happen if Smid was still in Edmonton but I would love to have Eberle here.
Anyone who thinks Coburn and Simmonds would be enough to land Eberle is mistaken.

I agree that there's no way that would land us Eberle, but I still don't think it's a deal that makes sense from the Flyers perspective. Coburn logs 25+ hard minutes a night, and while he's prone to making some bone headed plays, there's not really anybody else on the team that can do what he's doing for us.

 

[Flyerss]

I would rather knock all my teeth out with a hammer than see Couturier traded for just about any of the proposals made on HF.

Leafs board made me cry sometimes

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I agree that there's no way that would land us Eberle, but I still don't think it's a deal that makes sense from the Flyers perspective. Coburn logs 25+ hard minutes a night, and while he's prone to making some bone headed plays, there's not really anybody else on the team that can do what he's doing for us.

As much as Coburn can sometimes tick us all off I would probably agree.
Which would make it difficult to land Eberle because Edmonton would also want a defenseman going the other way. So a Eberle deal really isnt a good match for the Flyers.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

LMAO! Somebody turned off the parental controls on their board

lirl@ anyone taking Bruce Garrioch seriously

 

[Stizzle]

Thanks for reminding me why I rarely go to the 'Proposals' forum anymore.

 

[BernieParent]

Meh, we can get that bad here, too. It's the assumptions about Team X being low on a player = selling off for moon pies and penny whistles.

 

[Broad Street Elite]

Meh, we can get that bad here, too. It's the assumptions about Team X being low on a player = selling off for moon pies and penny whistles.

All the boards are the same. My team's player is worth more than their real value. Your team's player is worth less than their actual value. That attitude affects a significant (though, not 100%) of a given fanbase. Toronto has a greater overall number of fans, therefore, just based upon the percentages also have a higher number of posters like the above.

 

[BernieParent]

All the boards are the same. My team's player is worth more than their real value. Your team's player is worth less than their actual value. That attitude affects a significant (though, not 100%) of a given fanbase. Toronto has a greater overall number of fans, therefore, just based upon the percentages also have a higher number of posters like the above.

Yep. I've put some bad ideas out there with prospects about whom I didn't know much, just basing value on Hockey's Futures scores.

 

[FlyingPhilly]

A goalie, Reimer in this case, as a centerpiece plus scraps in a deal for Giroux?

 

[Prongo]

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/fla131118.html

Kulikov, who is in the final year of his contract, is making $3 million this season, though his salary cap hit is $2.5 million.
Several teams believed to have shown an interest in Kulikov include the Edmonton Oilers, Detroit Red Wings, Carolina Hurricanes and Anaheim Ducks, though others appear to be up against the cap.

Panthers GM Dale Tallon is looking for young assets in exchange for Kulikov, who is 23 and can become a restricted free agent next summer.

The Panthers are also entertaining offers for forwards Scottie Upshall, Tomas Fleischmann, Brad Boyes and Shawn Matthias.

I wonder what players they are trying to get.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I wonder what players they are trying to get.

Voracek.

 

[DecadesofFutility]

Delete.

 

[DecadesofFutility]

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/fla131118.html



I wonder what players they are trying to get.

I would not give you Mezzaros for Kulikov.
No desire to add Russians to Flyers.
Never pan out as players in the long term.