Speculation: All Purpose Pierre-Luc Dubois Discussion 3.0

[ViD]

Before you sign, you know he's hitting market in 2 years right?

I do, but I believe we can get him re-signed

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Habs fans calling Suzuki a legit number 1 center already.....goodness.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Habs fans calling Suzuki a legit number 1 center already.....goodness.

Well he’s legitimately our #1 C right now, so there’s that.

Suzuki for PLD is a sideways move. Sure PLD has proven more, but Suzuki could be busting out to star status before our eyes. Plus Suzuki is getting 1/5 the money.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Well he’s legitimately our #1 C right now, so there’s that.

Suzuki for PLD is a sideways move. Sure PLD has proven more, but Suzuki could be busting out to star status before our eyes. Plus Suzuki is getting 1/5 the money.

That's fine but don't try to claim he's a real number 1 center yet, he might be in the future but let's slow down

 

[majormajor]

That's fine but don't try to claim he's a real number 1 center yet, he might be in the future but let's slow down

You get a like for that hilarious pun name.

Possibly the best on the boards.

 

[Viqsi]

Not here to propose anything, merely to send my condolences to CBJ fans for having to put up with trash offers and "you'll never get full value because he wants out!". We feel your pain, stay strong.

Thankfully, we have an easy answer to that silliness:

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Montreal makes too much sense - the Habs are in a win now time with their core, they have the pieces and apparently that’s where Dubois wants to go... Suzuki is a non starter. I’d offer from the Habs POV:

To Columbus: Kotkaniemi, Caufield, Byron (cap reasons) and 2021 1st (top 10 protected).

To Montreal: Dubois (10-15 percent retention for cap purposes), 2021 2nd round pick.

I think that’s fair value for both sides.

 

[Twain]

To Columbus: Kotkaniemi, Caufield, Byron (cap reasons) and 2021 1st (top 10 protected).

To Montreal: Dubois (10-15 percent retention for cap purposes), 2021 2nd round pick.

I think that’s fair value for both sides.

You call that fair. That’s awful for Columbus. Even if Jarmo thinks that KK is legit 1C soon (I have major doubts), this means they should also take a cap dump plus pay a part of Dubois’ salary. So they should pay 4 million dollars for the sheer joy of having Dubois playing for a rival. That seems fair to you?

 

[Paxon]

A disgruntled player wanting out and a coach talking like that will diminish the value. Otherwise, PLD shouldn't even be considered to be traded.

His value is what teams are willing to give up which as determined by how teams outbid each other. Circumstances only lower his value if interest is low.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

PLD isn't a god damn legit number one. He has the POTENTIAL to be one christ sake....

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, Poehling FOR Dubois

OR

Suzuki, Romanov, Lehkonen, Edmundson, Kulak,
Along with prospects Poehling, Caufield
And 1st and 2nd round picks

FOR

Werenski, Dubois

 

[SoundAndFury]

Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, Poehling FOR Dubois

Ah, so 1C for a 3rd liner, 4th liner, and the guy who doesn't make the lineup. Nice value man, very realistic.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

You call that fair. That’s awful for Columbus. Even if Jarmo thinks that KK is legit 1C soon (I have major doubts), this means they should also take a cap dump plus pay a part of Dubois’ salary. So they should pay 4 million dollars for the sheer joy of having Dubois playing for a rival. That seems fair to you?

Lot of anger here.

You’re kind of leaving out the fact that there were a total of 3 first round picks with a young Center trending up, a young sniper and the next Habs first round pick being offered. Byron is a more than serviceable player, but in a cap world that’s the reality of trades these days.

BTW multiple Columbus posters disagreed with you FWIW, and details can always be tweaked. You may need to get some sleep.

 

[jonlin]

Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, Poehling FOR Dubois

OR

Suzuki, Romanov, Lehkonen, Edmundson, Kulak,
Along with prospects Poehling, Caufield
And 1st and 2nd round picks

FOR

Werenski, Dubois

To many pieces coming back. Cant have all on taxi-squad. Also Werenski would be a no-go. IF a 1D gets moved it would be Jones because of contract. Theese two would also need to have back substantial value. Like:

Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, Romanov +++

 

[Jeune Poulet]

To many pieces coming back. Cant have all on taxi-squad. Also Werenski would be a no-go. IF a 1D gets moved it would be Jones because of contract. Theese two would also need to have back substantial value. Like:

Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, Romanov +++

I hear you. With the salary cap big trades are almost impossible to pull off.

Jones is such an amazing player. Total beast. Unfortunately Habs are set on the right side. I'm sure eventually the Jackets are going to find a suitable trade that makes more sense and get a solid return for Dubois. Or else they may fire Tortorella. I feel he's turned this team into a super competitive and fun entity but he may have overstayed his welcome.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Suzuki
Byron

for

PLD

?

 

[wahsnairb]

It’s astonishing the value that Kotkaniemi and Suzuki seem to hold to Montreal fans... actually wild

 

[Jihadi Flames Fan]

Sean Monahan
Noah Hanifin
1st round pick 2021


Pierre-Luc Dubois
Zach Werenski

 

[Syckle78]

I wouldn’t trade Suzuki 1-on-1 for Dubois. Romanov is untouchable too. I’d be sad to see Kotkaniemi go, but that’s the best you’ll get from the Habs.

Here's to another 48 page thread full of unsolicited terrible offers from habs fans followed by them letting us all know how much they don't want him when told to stick it.

 

[sansabri]

Here's to another 48 page thread full of unsolicited terrible offers from habs fans followed by them letting us all know how much they don't want him when told to stick it.

as opposed to the trade right above your post, right

just because Dubois wants to play for the Habs doesn't mean Suzuki and Romanov are available for him lol

 

[Twain]

Lot of anger here.

You’re kind of leaving out the fact that there were a total of 3 first round picks with a young Center trending up, a young sniper and the next Habs first round pick being offered. Byron is a more than serviceable player, but in a cap world that’s the reality of trades these days.

BTW multiple Columbus posters disagreed with you FWIW, and details can always be tweaked. You may need to get some sleep.

Thanks for the concern, but it’s midday so I’ve gotten plenty of sleep and don’t have any stakes in this either. Just seemed laughable that Jarmo should go and tell the owner in the current financial situation that instead of paying 5m to Dubois to play for you, you are now kinda paying 4m (Byron’s salary plus retention) for him to play for Montreal. Byron might be a servicable player, but it’s a bad contract in this flat cap era and we’ve seen how difficult it is to shed them at the moment.

 

[Aurinko]

Sean Monahan
Noah Hanifin
1st round pick 2021


Pierre-Luc Dubois
Zach Werenski

I think Werenski is inmovable. (and i don't think he would ever refuse to play)

 

[Habs10025]

Continue.

Continue.

Kyprios

Continue.

Kypreos likes to make up possible trades to get attention just like his friend Friedman .

 

[Souker]

Curious to read what fans of both Teams would think of this trade:

Columbus:
Laine
Roslovic - Signed (fun fact, he’s from Columbus)


Winnipeg:
Dubois
Gavrikov

Personally, I could see the value for both teams

 

[ole ole]

Here's to another 48 page thread full of unsolicited terrible offers from habs fans followed by them letting us all know how much they don't want him when told to stick it.

And pages of non Hab fans who think the Habs grossly overpaying for PMD is the right thing to do.
You can dream but there's no chance that PMD hauls in Suzuki and Romanov. Please go elsewhere with your unsolicited terrible expectations.