Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose Coyotes Arena Talk: Land Auction Date Set - 6/27

[Desert Ice 11]

If you can edit in some background music I have a suggestion….

Not background music but a button that say do not press. If pressed a ton of windows open up with the song playing in the background.

Too bad no one uses CDs anymore, could hit them with ol "cup holder" link.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

I fully expect Meruelo to win the auction. There might be one or two players who try to bid him up, knowing that he is all in. I'm waiting for a shovel to hit the ground. I'll bid on that shovel after the arena is built. I don't know if Meruelo is a martyr or a fool, or a swindler. I hold him responsible under the "Captain of the Ship" principle for the loss of the team. If he can partner with responsible management, and once again bring in a top tier hockey front office, then I will be ecstatic.

It seems that the Coyotes own on ice progression hastened the move to Utah. So much of the league revenue comes from the playoffs, the league couldn't allow a playoff series or two to take place in Mullet arena.

How many other bidders actually qualify? I don't know why anyone would want to up bid him because it will drive up the value of the other parcel. It doesn't make sense to drive up the price and potentially be on the hook for land that is more than what you wanted to pay for.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Honestly just want a team back. Whether it’s Meruelo all in, or meruelo just writing the checks while another owner actually manages the thing. Don’t care how it’s done, just get it done and get a team back here

 

[Llewzaher]

Funny…. Never thought he strong armed Tempe. In fact he gave a ton of concessions to the city if you look at the original proposal against the final one.

agreed

I wonder what would have happened if AM decided not to sell ? His original answer was no…

 

[Llewzaher]

Strong arm Glendale?? What you smokin;"?

They offered to forego the annual lease and play at Glendale on a 3+2 lease under the current terms while pursuing Tempe.. Glendale wanted 12 years plus or nothing, PLUS dump millions more into the arena.

So just who the frick is strong arming who here??

What he should have done in my opinion.. was sign the lease, then just break it once his entertainment district or arena was complete..at the time he was brand new to the situation and was likely advised not not sign..

 

[Llewzaher]

interesting development. listening to morning show and I'm sure its coming from gambo is that meruelo group may be partnering with someone and announcement will come after land deal is completed.

my opinion is that this is meruelo groups way out and still be part of development

oh wow. looks like new branding on it's way. or maybe secondary logo?
not sure where they are getting it from.

here it is. new website leaked.

www.returnofthehowl.com

looks like new branding for this journey.

Wasn’t there a clause that if he took on a partner it had to be a. Rey minor one.. and he has t9 keep the team for 10 years.. unless he can’t build an arena etc?

 

[Kai Yo T]

Partnering up with investors to build the ED and selling part ownership in the Coyotes are two different things. Which are we talki g about here?

 

[Edenjung]

If you can edit in some background music I have a suggestion….

Made me chuckle.
And reminded me of a great documentary about the song and Rick Astley himself.
Really worth a watch, because he lost his love for music after awhile:

 

[MIGs Dog]

one niche

AM might be a lot of things, but definitely not this.

 

[Kai Yo T]

People seem to look at billionaires as if they're infallible and put blind faith in them.

Musk, Trump, Buffet, Bloomberg, Gates, and every other billionaire has had their share of big failures to go with their successes. Reaching billionaire status doesn't guarantee success in everything you do and EVERYONE fails sometimes.

 

[SniperHF]

If you can edit in some background music I have a suggestion….

If it's a crappy 90's looking wbsite, go with a MIDI version.

 

[Jakey53]

People seem to look at billionaires as if they're infallible and put blind faith in them.

Musk, Trump, Buffet, Bloomberg, Gates, and every other billionaire has had their share of big failures to go with their successes. Reaching billionaire status doesn't guarantee success in everything you do and EVERYONE fails sometimes.

You are right, we all have failures, but many give up after their failures, the successful people in life try again, and again and again. Most are scared of failure and that is why most are employees. Most successful people in life have worked their asses off, are not afraid of failure etc. Owing a business over the years you get "thick skin" because of what comes with it. What I disagree is when these billionaires, actors etc. spout off about something because of their status, that is so far out of their area of expertise.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

What I disagree is when these billionaires, actors etc. spout off about something because of their status, that is so far out of their area of expertise.

Worse yet is billionaire status making one believe they can run an NHL franchise by not listening to and/or removing those that have. I call that asshatery!

 

[Snarky Coyote]

I really would love to get the truth, but I doubt any of us ever will, or even worse recognize it if we do get it. However I want to get hockey back as quickly as possible. My boycott, much like Austin Mathews's success, only lasted midway through the first round. I realize this is a magnificent game. Growing up I loved watching the NBC Sunday game with my dad, who grew up watching the Bruins and Rangers. I loved it before seeing the Coyotes, and I apparently can't quit it. The 80 gold medal team is a formative memory of my childhood. If I have to hold my nose and deal with AM so be it.

 

[MIGs Dog]

. If I have to hold my nose and deal with AM so be it.

If AM builds/acquires an arena and brings the Coyotes back to the valley he will be a hero to Arizona hockey fans. Guaranteed. Past criticisms will be forgotten.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

If AM builds/acquires an arena and brings the Coyotes back to the valley he will be a hero to Arizona hockey fans. Guaranteed. Past criticisms will be forgotten.

Not me. He's got a lot more to do than that to start earning my trust.

 

[Jakey53]

Worse yet is billionaire status making one believe they can run an NHL franchise by not listening to and/or removing those that have. I call that asshatery!

Are you talking about Doan?

Not me. He's got a lot more to do than that to start earning my trust.

Like what?

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Are you talking about Doan?

Nope

 

[TheLegend]

Are you talking about Doan?

Think he’s referring to Junior. Fresh out of college with a know it all attitude.

Like what?

Like not thinking he can run a sports franchise like everything else he owns.

 

[Jakey53]

Think he’s referring to Junior. Fresh out of college with a know it all attitude.


Like not thinking he can run a sports franchise like everything else he owns.

First of all, Jr. isn't running a NHL franchise. He may have a know it all attitude but I have not met the kid to form an opinion.

 

[Edenjung]

First of all, Jr. isn't running a NHL franchise. He may have a know it all attitude but I have not met the kid to form an opinion.

Still, from what we hear (and I am aware we have to take everything with a grain of salt), he had a lot of influence or atleast tried to do a lot of things and made a lot of mistakes.
He might be a good lad who is nice, same goes for the whole family. But it seems like he break more porcelain than needed.

This might have been because of his dad pushing him into the role, but what we can say is that he does not seem to be capable to have that much influence. But he may take away something from this and reflect.

 

[DustyDangler]

Dunno where to throw this but the following vid is worth your time.

In my biased opinion the Kachina Coyote is the best brand in all of sports history and sad to see it go.

Shifting Sands: The Kachina Brand Story

Boo to Wayne Gretzky and two boos to Alex Meruelo.

 

[TheLegend]

First of all, Jr. isn't running a NHL franchise. He may have a know it all attitude but I have not met the kid to form an opinion.

Well apparently he's got a lot more influence in operating the franchise than you're willing to admit to.

 

[Kai Yo T]

First of all, Jr. isn't running a NHL franchise. He may have a know it all attitude but I have not met the kid to form an opinion.

AM Jr. was the team's "Strategic Advisor, Business and Hockey Operations" for the first year and a half. A Strategic Advisor is a consultant that oversees every area of a business to make sure it is performing at top level. So basically AM Jr. was "hired" as a noob right out of college to give people with much, much more experience in business and the NHL advice on how to do their jobs better. That's going to make him a know-it-all in their minds no matter what.

He may not have been a decision maker but when the boss's son speaks you might feel a bit more obligated to listen and if you don't there's going to be friction. So AM Jr. had way too much influence at the very least.

 

[Jakey53]

Well apparently he's got a lot more influence in operating the franchise than you're willing to admit to.

Maybe, or maybe not. One thing that is fact is neither you, I or anyone else on this board have any idea how much influence Jr. has. I would think most everything goes thru XG before it hits AM's desk.